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2/9/2013  9:36 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Just watching this game makes me smile. Ex Knicks pretty much doing nothing.

Mozgov and Randolph have yet to see a single minute here in the 4th. Gallo's struggling with only 11 points off 4/10 shooting along with 0 assists and 3 turnovers. Last but not least, Wilson Chandler has only put up 7 points off 2/6 shooting with only 1 assist.

Guys such as Faried, Kosta and Iggy really impacting for Denver.

It's amazing when a team has depth what it allows players to do from night-to-night. Like the other night when Chandler dropped 24 on the Bulls, like the other night when Gallo dropped 27 against the Pacers and Rockets and Chandler dropped 20 and Mozgov dropped 10 in the Rockets game too. Then another night it's Faried, then another night it's Iggy, then another night it's Lawson, then another night it's Brewer....and then before you know it they've won 10gms in a row....

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2/9/2013  9:43 PM
Gallo with 2 3s since....
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2/9/2013  9:51 PM
I dont hate Gallinari but his flopping is disgusting
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2/9/2013  9:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/9/2013  10:03 PM
TeamBall wrote:I dont hate Gallinari but his flopping is disgusting

It's always been atrocious, hate it from him but so many players flop so what do you do?


Make that 9 wins in a row for Denver, who are playing fast, scoring in bunches, steamrolling teams.


Man they are 5-6gms behind having the best record in the West and possibly NBA with a Top 5 SOS.

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2/9/2013  9:59 PM
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TeamBall wrote:I dont hate Gallinari but his flopping is disgusting

It's always been atrocious, hate it from him but so many players flop so what do you do?

Make that 9 wins in a row for Denver, who are playing fast scoring in bunches, steamrolling teams.


Man they are 5-6gms behind having the best record in the West and possibly NBA with a Top 5 SOS.


Well they should be getting fined but idk if the NBA is still enforcing that like they were to start
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2/9/2013  10:04 PM
TeamBall wrote:
3G4G wrote:
TeamBall wrote:I dont hate Gallinari but his flopping is disgusting

It's always been atrocious, hate it from him but so many players flop so what do you do?

Make that 9 wins in a row for Denver, who are playing fast scoring in bunches, steamrolling teams.


Man they are 5-6gms behind having the best record in the West and possibly NBA with a Top 5 SOS.


Well they should be getting fined but idk if the NBA is still enforcing that like they were to start

They have fined a few guys I believe Wallace and Evans and maybe Lebron. I was speaking more in general, flopping is crap no matter who is doing it.

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2/9/2013  10:06 PM
Fining is a joke. Next year they have to suspended guys after 1st offense
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2/9/2013  10:08 PM
3G4G wrote:
TeamBall wrote:I dont hate Gallinari but his flopping is disgusting

It's always been atrocious, hate it from him but so many players flop so what do you do?


Make that 9 wins in a row for Denver, who are playing fast, scoring in bunches, steamrolling teams.


Man they are 5-6gms behind having the best record in the West and possibly NBA with a Top 5 SOS.

Knicks are 5.5 games from best record

Denver is 6

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2/9/2013  10:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/9/2013  10:35 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
3G4G wrote:
TeamBall wrote:I dont hate Gallinari but his flopping is disgusting

It's always been atrocious, hate it from him but so many players flop so what do you do?


Make that 9 wins in a row for Denver, who are playing fast, scoring in bunches, steamrolling teams.


Man they are 5-6gms behind having the best record in the West and possibly NBA with a Top 5 SOS.

Knicks are 5.5 games from best record

Denver is 6

We have 2 near 3 Max Cats and a supposed Top 10 player, they have neither and they've clearly had a tougher schedule. They have a New Age team going forward we have a Prehistoric one

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2/9/2013  10:49 PM
didn't see the nuggets game but it looks like irving had an atrocious evening, scoring 26 points on 24 shots and only 4 FTA. that's 50TS% with a measly 7 assists. kudos to whomever was guarding him. as i recall he destroyed the knick backcourt for 41 points and an incredible 73%TS.

gallinari? an elite 62.5TS% tonight and no doubt a big reason the nuggets continue to win. as a team they achieved a 58.4%TS which is great if you want to be a good road team. but my hunch is even 56-57% should be enough on the road.

for some perspective consider these teams:

heat thus far overall home and away combined are at 57.9%TS
okc thus far are 58.3%TS
spurs thus far are 57.4TS%

these are the three teams that really have a better chance of reaching the finals if the TS% statistic has any merit vis a vis winning. obviously matchups and defense are key, as mr. russell has stated. not going to argue with him when it comes to winning.

knicks thus are at 54.8%TS
nuggets thus far are at 54.1%TS

these percentages are too low to get it done in the playoffs so defense is going to be vitally important to counteract this phenomenon.

examples of great defensive teams with low TS% who use defense to counteract low efficiency:

indiana thus far overall is 51.2TS%
chicago thus far overall is 51.3TS%
memphis thus far overall is 50.6TS%

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/9/2013  10:56 PM
dk7th wrote:didn't see the nuggets game but it looks like irving had an atrocious evening, scoring 26 points on 24 shots and only 4 FTA. that's 50TS% with a measly 7 assists. kudos to whomever was guarding him. as i recall he destroyed the knick backcourt for 41 points and an incredible 73%TS.

gallinari? an elite 62.5TS% tonight and no doubt a big reason the nuggets continue to win. as a team they achieved a 58.4%TS which is great if you want to be a good road team. but my hunch is even 56-57% should be enough on the road.

for some perspective consider these teams:

heat thus far overall home and away combined are at 57.9%TS
okc thus far are 58.3%TS
spurs thus far are 57.4TS%

these are the three teams that really have a better chance of reaching the finals if the TS% statistic has any merit vis a vis winning. obviously matchups and defense are key, as mr. russell has stated. not going to argue with him when it comes to winning.

knicks thus are at 54.8%TS
nuggets thus far are at 54.1%TS

these percentages are too low to get it done in the playoffs so defense is going to be vitally important to counteract this phenomenon.

examples of great defensive teams with low TS% who use defense to counteract low efficiency:

indiana thus far overall is 51.2TS%
chicago thus far overall is 51.3TS%
memphis thus far overall is 50.6TS%


If you don't shoot the 3 ball at an above average clip and don't get to the line enough the TS% isn't going to look too good. Refs control much of the latter.

Parker
Lebron
Duncan
Ginobli
Durant
Wade
Westbrook
Bosh
Battier
Green
Martin
Allen

These players are the reason TS% looks pretty good for their respective teams.

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2/9/2013  11:20 PM
Brandon Jennings You've Got To Be Kidding Me.....



If I'm the Bucks I'd trade him to whoever will take him

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2/10/2013  12:24 AM
3G4G wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:Just watching this game makes me smile. Ex Knicks pretty much doing nothing.

Mozgov and Randolph have yet to see a single minute here in the 4th. Gallo's struggling with only 11 points off 4/10 shooting along with 0 assists and 3 turnovers. Last but not least, Wilson Chandler has only put up 7 points off 2/6 shooting with only 1 assist.

Guys such as Faried, Kosta and Iggy really impacting for Denver.

It's amazing when a team has depth what it allows players to do from night-to-night. Like the other night when Chandler dropped 24 on the Bulls, like the other night when Gallo dropped 27 against the Pacers and Rockets and Chandler dropped 20 and Mozgov dropped 10 in the Rockets game too. Then another night it's Faried, then another night it's Iggy, then another night it's Lawson, then another night it's Brewer....and then before you know it they've won 10gms in a row....

Yea, right, and it's all for not because they have no chance whatsoever come postseason play. None. Without defensive ability you literally have zero chance of advancing during playoff basketball. When in regards to the Denver Nuggets, they really do feature a laughing stock defense. They can not keep teams off the board from scoring. Which is why they just allowed 103 points against the Cavs and now rank 26th overall in points allowed. Only ahead of the Rockets, Mavs, Kings and Charlotte ala all non-postseason teams.

Remember, it's not that you win, it's how you win and the Nuggets have a laughing stock defense. Lets stop acting as if during this nine game winning streak that the Denver Nuggets haven't allowed 102.0 points per gama ala dead last amongst all NBA teams during these past nine games.

They've played Mike D'Antoni ball here in 2012-2013. No defense whatsoever. The difference? The Suns had offensive leaders such as Nash and Stoudemire during their postseason runs. The Nuggets? Have no player that can step up to the plate and carry an offense against elite defenses come postseason play (with the pressure on). Come postseason play, Denver has no chance at getting past the first round for the simple fact they're 26th overall in points allowed. No defense Nuggets.

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2/10/2013  12:26 AM
I wish the Knicks could get him. He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee anymore.
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2/10/2013  12:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2013  12:33 AM
NYKMentality wrote:
3G4G wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:Just watching this game makes me smile. Ex Knicks pretty much doing nothing.

Mozgov and Randolph have yet to see a single minute here in the 4th. Gallo's struggling with only 11 points off 4/10 shooting along with 0 assists and 3 turnovers. Last but not least, Wilson Chandler has only put up 7 points off 2/6 shooting with only 1 assist.

Guys such as Faried, Kosta and Iggy really impacting for Denver.

It's amazing when a team has depth what it allows players to do from night-to-night. Like the other night when Chandler dropped 24 on the Bulls, like the other night when Gallo dropped 27 against the Pacers and Rockets and Chandler dropped 20 and Mozgov dropped 10 in the Rockets game too. Then another night it's Faried, then another night it's Iggy, then another night it's Lawson, then another night it's Brewer....and then before you know it they've won 10gms in a row....

Yea, right, and it's all for not because they have no chance whatsoever come postseason play.


Ditto Knicks.....especially when you consider the post-season history of our best player and our coach while Lebron(best player not on planet earth) is in our way for yrs to come.

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2/10/2013  12:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2013  12:32 AM
AnubisADL wrote:I wish the Knicks could get him. He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee anymore.

I should have qualified that statement and said.... any team but ours. He's trash and has been trash every year in the league considering his usage rate

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2/10/2013  12:34 AM
dk7th wrote:didn't see the nuggets game but it looks like irving had an atrocious evening, scoring 26 points on 24 shots and only 4 FTA. that's 50TS% with a measly 7 assists. kudos to whomever was guarding him. as i recall he destroyed the knick backcourt for 41 points and an incredible 73%TS.

gallinari? an elite 62.5TS% tonight and no doubt a big reason the nuggets continue to win.

Exactly. You didn't watch the game tonight (you're only box score watching). But, I did, and Gallo was a non-factor and got his points during garbage time of the 4th quarter due to a couple wide open 3's.

NYKMentality wrote:Just watching this game makes me smile. Ex Knicks pretty much doing nothing.

Mozgov and Randolph have yet to see a single minute here in the 4th.

Gallo's struggling with only 11 points off 4/10 shooting along with 0 assists and 3 turnovers.

Last but not least, Wilson Chandler has only put up 7 points off 2/6 shooting with only 1 assist.

Guys such as Faried, Kosta and Iggy really impacting for Denver

.

I made that post while the Nuggets were up 11 points with around 9 minutes remaining of the 4th quarter. And Gallo was hurting his team overall. Just because he added two threes and a pair of free throws (during garbage time) doesn't change the fact that he struggled from the field. Only 0 assists along with 4 turnovers? Awful. On the other hand (if you actually watched the game instead of talking up a box score) you'd have seen how guys such as Faried, Kosta, Iggy and McGee led the way and really impressed during the entire game.

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2/10/2013  12:38 AM
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I wish the Knicks could get him. He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee anymore.

I should have qualified that statement and said.... any team but ours. He's trash and has been trash every year in the league considering his usage rate

Kyrie Irving tonight

24 points on 24 shots

Jennings tonight

26 points on 27 shots

The problem with Jennings is his team is GARBAGE. So you have your PG taking an insane amount of shots.

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2/10/2013  12:47 AM
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dk7th wrote:didn't see the nuggets game but it looks like irving had an atrocious evening, scoring 26 points on 24 shots and only 4 FTA. that's 50TS% with a measly 7 assists. kudos to whomever was guarding him. as i recall he destroyed the knick backcourt for 41 points and an incredible 73%TS.

gallinari? an elite 62.5TS% tonight and no doubt a big reason the nuggets continue to win.

Exactly. You didn't watch the game tonight (you're only box score watching). But, I did, and Gallo was a non-factor and got his points during garbage time of the 4th quarter due to a couple wide open 3's.

NYKMentality wrote:Just watching this game makes me smile. Ex Knicks pretty much doing nothing.

Mozgov and Randolph have yet to see a single minute here in the 4th.

Gallo's struggling with only 11 points off 4/10 shooting along with 0 assists and 3 turnovers.

Last but not least, Wilson Chandler has only put up 7 points off 2/6 shooting with only 1 assist.

Guys such as Faried, Kosta and Iggy really impacting for Denver

.

I made that post while the Nuggets were up 11 points with around 9 minutes remaining of the 4th quarter. And Gallo was hurting his team overall. Just because he added two threes and a pair of free throws (during garbage time) doesn't change the fact that he struggled from the field. Only 0 assists along with 4 turnovers? Awful. On the other hand (if you actually watched the game instead of talking up a box score) you'd have seen how guys such as Faried, Kosta, Iggy and McGee led the way and really impressed during the entire game.


When a game is 95-86 in the 4rth with 7:30min left that's not what you call garbage time. Gallo and/or the Nuggets must really matter because you're watching their games and hanging on with every breath. Cleveland got as close as 8 with 5:30min left. Gallo was 4-8 at one point before the 3rd got underway the game was 58-52. Iggy had an 8pt 3rd qrt but only finished with 14pts..... which means prior to the 3rd he wasn't doing much. Yes they pushed a 6pt lead as much as 12pts AND?

Appears to me you either started watching the game at a certain pt or blacked out during huge portions of the game.

Gallo also had 9reb, 2stl, 2blks...By no means was he a Superhero but he had impact on the game throughout.

You have not one zero bone of objectivity in you, not one

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2/10/2013  1:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/10/2013  1:04 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I wish the Knicks could get him. He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee anymore.

I should have qualified that statement and said.... any team but ours. He's trash and has been trash every year in the league considering his usage rate

Kyrie Irving tonight

24 points on 24 shots

Jennings tonight

26 points on 27 shots

The problem with Jennings is his team is GARBAGE. So you have your PG taking an insane amount of shots.


Naaahh his team isn't trash(they are slightly above average in talent) as he has capable scorers on his team...Ellis/Illanova/Dunleavy but as I told you from jump prior to draft, this midget would struggle mightily between knowing how to run a team and get his own offense. Since he always tends to lean on getting his, while chucking 40% or less since entering the league his team success has suffered.


The Bucks have better success when he passes the rock more..when he gets 8ast or more the Bucks are 10-3 which tells me.... his team isn't trash he is trash...keep thinking he isn't.


Shall we look at the year prior to...sure let's do that...7-4.... 2011-2012

Shall we look at the year prior to...sure let's do that...5-2.... 2010-2011

Shall we look at the year prior to...sure let's do that...14-9.... 2009-2010


All of those records clearly better than .500. Numbers don't lie but your heart will as it is treacherous

lol @ mentioning Irving this happened to be a volume game for him and I even said he needs to pass the rock more but his play/shooting doesn't hurt his team as he is 47/40/80.


Meanwhile little Bebe Kid is currently 40/37/80, the year prior to 42/33/81, the year prior to 39/32/81, the year prior to 37/37/82. He is what I thought he is a horrific point guard

I know, I know, blah blah blah he needs a fresh start.... he's one of those type of talents.

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