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Nalod
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2/8/2013  1:43 PM
gunsnewing wrote:They will be trading Mozgov by the deadline and there are teams interested. Going to be hard for the Knicks since they have nothing to offer

I doubt we do anything there as we must believe Camby will be able to give us minutes down the stretch.

Mozgov reminds me of Bill Wennington who did develope into a decent role player and has a few rings to show. I remember Jordan passing the ball to him for a game winning shot in a big playoff game.

BUlls were not defined by Wennington but if you really study Phil Jax's teams it was not about the marquee players, but the role guys and if the stars "trusted" them.

When they did, they won.

Moz was our starting center. That did not speak volumes about his talent but just how thin we were at the position "Post Trade".

As a rookie and one without NCAA experiece he showed he can play in the league and Im not talking "Summer league"!

He can play, but at what level? How many minutes? Does he have upside?

He is not as good as Kostas and JaVale has crazy upside.

We know about expendable players stepping up when giving a chance. Novak, Lin, and extra E proved valuable.

Im not saying Mozgov is the next big thing. there are players who just need a chance.

He'd be better being traded to a team and given one. Maybe he steps up, maybe not.

If NYKMentality is the final word, then he is toast.

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2/8/2013  1:47 PM
Losing Mozgov really hurt because he was playing well with Felton and it forced us to play Roni Freakin Turiaf at Center who was injured half the time. Big part of the reason why the Celtics swept us
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2/8/2013  1:54 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Losing Mozgov really hurt because he was playing well with Felton and it forced us to play Roni Freakin Turiaf at Center who was injured half the time. Big part of the reason why the Celtics swept us

Mozgov aint that good, and certainly was not a big part in why we got swept that year.

D'antoni > Billups injury > Amare injury >

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2/8/2013  1:59 PM
knickscity wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Losing Mozgov really hurt because he was playing well with Felton and it forced us to play Roni Freakin Turiaf at Center who was injured half the time. Big part of the reason why the Celtics swept us

Mozgov aint that good, and certainly was not a big part in why we got swept that year.

D'antoni > Billups injury > Amare injury >

Playing Turiaf and Amare at center was a big part of the reason why we dropped from 6th to 8th in the standings after the deal. Which resulted in getting steamrolled by the #1 seed Celtics.

Health at center was an issue the tail end of the regular season and heading into the playoffs

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2/8/2013  2:09 PM
metta-world-peace got suspended a game for fighting..lmao!!
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2/8/2013  2:15 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knickscity wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Losing Mozgov really hurt because he was playing well with Felton and it forced us to play Roni Freakin Turiaf at Center who was injured half the time. Big part of the reason why the Celtics swept us

Mozgov aint that good, and certainly was not a big part in why we got swept that year.

D'antoni > Billups injury > Amare injury >

Playing Turiaf and Amare at center was a big part of the reason why we dropped from 6th to 8th in the standings after the deal. Which resulted in getting steamrolled by the #1 seed Celtics.

Health at center was an issue the tail end of the regular season and heading into the playoffs


And how does Mozgov help in this? had Turiaf not gotten injured you'd never saw him again.

D'antoni played him earlier in the season, dude was awful.

Now way he makes an impact against the Celtics.

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2/8/2013  2:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  2:51 PM
tkf wrote:funny dude... brings up gallo, and then says "enough of this gallo talk".... wow.... this is reaching epic levels of sadness..

Man dudes catching feelings over past Knick players still? I thought with the record we have, current seed and all they would be a clear distant after thought but nope they are more relevant than they've ever been.

I see more and more discussion across forums with Knick fans discussing/clamoring how to get previous Knicks...lolmnop! Everyone from Lee to Mozgov...Reezy to Nate

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2/8/2013  2:24 PM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:funny dude... brings up gallo, and then says "enough of this gallo talk".... wow.... this is reaching epic levels of sadness..

Man dudes catching feelings over past Knick players still? I thought with the record we have, current seed and all they would be a clear distant after thought but nope they are more relevant than they've ever been.

I see more and more discussion across forums with Knick fans discussing/clamoring how to get previous Knicks...lolmnop! Everyone from Lee to Mozgov...Rezzy to Nate

lol.. Go figure...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/8/2013  2:26 PM
knicks1248 wrote:metta mental-world-peace got suspended a game for fighting..lmao!!

Fixed that for you.

-- the preceding post was brought to you by the letter K and the number 22.
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2/8/2013  2:27 PM
3G4G wrote:
tkf wrote:funny dude... brings up gallo, and then says "enough of this gallo talk".... wow.... this is reaching epic levels of sadness..

Man dudes catching feelings over past Knick players still? I thought with the record we have, current seed and all they would be a clear distant after thought but nope they are more relevant than they've ever been.

I see more and more discussion across forums with Knick fans discussing/clamoring how to get previous Knicks...lolmnop! Everyone from Lee to Mozgov...Rezzy to Nate

I hope you are not referring to me. I was against including Mozgov in the deal. Denver only did it to completely F us over

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2/8/2013  3:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  3:24 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Losing Mozgov really hurt because he was playing well with Felton and it forced us to play Roni Freakin Turiaf at Center who was injured half the time. Big part of the reason why the Celtics swept us

Dantoni buried moz on the bench from the end of November until the end of January when he was forced to play him because aand Randolph because amare and shawne were both out. Moz had a career game and then saw minutes for the two weeks up to the melo trade. I didn't want moz included in the deal either but he had just started to get minutes.

I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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2/8/2013  3:53 PM
Yea he was impressive once he finally started getting mins which is why Denver wanted him
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2/8/2013  5:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  5:26 PM
Brooklyn discussing Humphries for Ben Gordon trade with Charlotte. Nyets get much needed bench scoring YIKES
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2/8/2013  5:11 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Brooklyn discussing Humphries for Ben Gordan trade with Charlotte. Nyets get much needed bench scoring YIKES

Good trade for both if it happens.

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2/8/2013  5:25 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Brooklyn discussing Humphries for Ben Gordan trade with Charlotte. Nyets get much needed bench scoring YIKES

Hope they don't get him- he used to be lethal for the Bulls and a great clutch player, I still think he's the kind of player that thrives in bigger markets and teams with a chance to win. It's been a shame he wasted a big part of his career for the extra million Detroit were offering.

Why would The Bobcats want Humphries?! He's been exposed this year and is so overpaid its ridiculous.

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2/8/2013  5:26 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Brooklyn discussing Humphries for Ben Gordan trade with Charlotte. Nyets get much needed bench scoring YIKES

Good trade for both if it happens.

Actually doesn't make sense for the Bobcats. Both have identical $13mil contracts for this year and next. I thought Bobcats were doing this because Gordon had a longer contract and Hump gave them an expiring next year

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2/8/2013  6:00 PM
Kurt Helin ‏@basketballtalk
Report: Cavaliers about to offer Greg Oden multi-year contract
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2/8/2013  6:14 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Brooklyn discussing Humphries for Ben Gordan trade with Charlotte. Nyets get much needed bench scoring YIKES

Good trade for both if it happens.

Actually doesn't make sense for the Bobcats. Both have identical $13mil contracts for this year and next. I thought Bobcats were doing this because Gordon had a longer contract and Hump gave them an expiring next year

I was looking more for talent and need. Bobcats need a bruiser at the 4 spot. They have 4 centers and at the 4 they Warrick and Tyrus Thomas, both known more for finesse. Mr. Kardashian and Biyombo would make a pretty rugged frontline along with MKG.

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2/8/2013  6:58 PM
Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Source close to situation says "60 percent" chance ATL trades Josh Smith b4 deadline. Brooklyn one of several teams interested.
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2/8/2013  7:48 PM
What is Smith contract??
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