martin wrote:Windhorst: "I talked to some Knicks coaches…

When they changed the offense to go thru KAT

It wasn't just give the ball to KAT

It was also run action off ball

Moving Brunson around…
Moving OG…
Mikal…
Josh…

They love it

They. Love. It.

So that engages them on D…

So now when they get a rebound…

They're tearing off to the other end…

Because they wanna get down there

Because they know

They're gonna be involved…

So…why does it take 90% of the season for that to happen?

IDK why…

But it happened.

Not only has it unlocked their talent

It's unlocked their chemistry…

Now you watch them play

And it's one giant party"

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the way we push the ball even after made baskets and just fly down court, the amount of easy baskets off cuts and off made basket transistions, its not something i've ever seen before from ANY team. this level of dominance feels like its literally never happened, because it HASNT. We are beating teams by 30-40 every night in the freakin playoffs. just unreal.

and teams have tried to adjust, cutting off the back door, playing zone, doubling Brunson. but it just seems like defenses have to pick their poison because they cant stop everything and we can win so many different ways. and if all else fails, then we have ISO Brunson to go to and one of the most cold blooded killers I've seen since MJ... yes I said it.

defensively we've been great, but we havent had to be because all these games have been blowouts, but we've shown that when we need to dial it up we can. I mean I think we can have the best defense in the NBA when need be. just lock down.

nycericanguy wrote:

the way we push the ball even after made baskets and just fly down court, the amount of easy baskets off cuts and off made basket transistions, its not something i've ever seen before from ANY team. this level of dominance feels like its literally never happened, because it HASNT. We are beating teams by 30-40 every night in the freakin playoffs. just unreal.

and teams have tried to adjust, cutting off the back door, playing zone, doubling Brunson. but it just seems like defenses have to pick their poison because they cant stop everything and we can win so many different ways. and if all else fails, then we have ISO Brunson to go to and one of the most cold blooded killers I've seen since MJ... yes I said it.

So are other teams going to try to emulate the 2026 Knicks next year and years coming, like they did the GSW for the past 10 years?

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:Windhorst: "I talked to some Knicks coaches…

When they changed the offense to go thru KAT

It wasn't just give the ball to KAT

It was also run action off ball

Moving Brunson around…
Moving OG…
Mikal…
Josh…

They love it

They. Love. It.

So that engages them on D…

So now when they get a rebound…

They're tearing off to the other end…

Because they wanna get down there

Because they know

They're gonna be involved…

So…why does it take 90% of the season for that to happen?

IDK why…

But it happened.

Not only has it unlocked their talent

It's unlocked their chemistry…

Now you watch them play

And it's one giant party"

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I did notice that they did not run the offense through KAT last night as much as in prior series. Wonder why? Was it an adjustment to a Cav's adjustment or personnel?

Evan Mobley, with Jarret Allen roaming at times. Evan is an All NBA Defender type with long arms and that’s disruptive enough. And then combine that with attacking James Harden and his weak ass defense, followed by Donovan and Merril.

Knicks had options

Panos wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

the way we push the ball even after made baskets and just fly down court, the amount of easy baskets off cuts and off made basket transistions, its not something i've ever seen before from ANY team. this level of dominance feels like its literally never happened, because it HASNT. We are beating teams by 30-40 every night in the freakin playoffs. just unreal.

and teams have tried to adjust, cutting off the back door, playing zone, doubling Brunson. but it just seems like defenses have to pick their poison because they cant stop everything and we can win so many different ways. and if all else fails, then we have ISO Brunson to go to and one of the most cold blooded killers I've seen since MJ... yes I said it.

So are other teams going to try to emulate the 2026 Knicks next year and years coming, like they did the GSW for the past 10 years?

KAT is the 5 out spacer and passer and rebounder and defender that you can’t easily replicate. He is the shimmy that adds to the shake that other teams don’t got and most other skinny girls wish they got that level of back.

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we will keep Shamet. He wants to be here, and has openly said he considers NY his home and considers himself a New Yorker. I would probably keep him over Deuce TBH. Knicks are kind of at the point where they might simply go deep into the tax to sign everyone. The level this team has hit warrants it.

100% to everything you’ve said, including the Shamet over Deuce scenario

I think the question we (Knicks FO) need to ask ourselves is do we think Deuce can TURN INTO a Shamet type outside shooter. Would like to keep Shamet is going to command a big raise and Deuce is about 4 years younger

How about this take: if Dolan don’t care about the second apron, bring back everyone, and then next offseason Dolan has to pay everyone’s extensions at triple the price of their contracts (Mitch Deuce Shamet and rookies)?

If that’s too much, got to figure out the best path forward to keep this going, and unfortunately that means moving some dudes. Double unfortunate is the fact that Deuce is the easiest to move because of his age, contract, and play; there is just no two ways around that outside of moving a starter.

martin wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we will keep Shamet. He wants to be here, and has openly said he considers NY his home and considers himself a New Yorker. I would probably keep him over Deuce TBH. Knicks are kind of at the point where they might simply go deep into the tax to sign everyone. The level this team has hit warrants it.

100% to everything you’ve said, including the Shamet over Deuce scenario

I think the question we (Knicks FO) need to ask ourselves is do we think Deuce can TURN INTO a Shamet type outside shooter. Would like to keep Shamet is going to command a big raise and Deuce is about 4 years younger

How about this take: if Dolan don’t care about the second apron, bring back everyone, and then next offseason Dolan has to pay everyone’s extensions at triple the price of their contracts (Mitch Deuce Shamet and rookies)?

If that’s too much, got to figure out the best path forward to keep this going, and unfortunately that means moving some dudes. Double unfortunate is the fact that Deuce is the easiest to move because of his age, contract, and play; there is just no two ways around that outside of moving a starter.

If it's only $$$ penalty then you have to take this route.

Tho, Pacome can probably get moved if he not gonna really play, at his $3mil cost. Plus Mo needs to be signed for 2 more years to hold his rights.

When it comes to Deuce, it may be better to move him as you can get an asset back for the long term over losing him for nothing.

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think we will keep Shamet. He wants to be here, and has openly said he considers NY his home and considers himself a New Yorker. I would probably keep him over Deuce TBH. Knicks are kind of at the point where they might simply go deep into the tax to sign everyone. The level this team has hit warrants it.

100% to everything you’ve said, including the Shamet over Deuce scenario

I think the question we (Knicks FO) need to ask ourselves is do we think Deuce can TURN INTO a Shamet type outside shooter. Would like to keep Shamet is going to command a big raise and Deuce is about 4 years younger

How about this take: if Dolan don’t care about the second apron, bring back everyone, and then next offseason Dolan has to pay everyone’s extensions at triple the price of their contracts (Mitch Deuce Shamet and rookies)?

If that’s too much, got to figure out the best path forward to keep this going, and unfortunately that means moving some dudes. Double unfortunate is the fact that Deuce is the easiest to move because of his age, contract, and play; there is just no two ways around that outside of moving a starter.

If it's only $$$ penalty then you have to take this route.

Tho, Pacome can probably get moved if he not gonna really play, at his $3mil cost. Plus Mo needs to be signed for 2 more years to hold his rights.

When it comes to Deuce, it may be better to move him as you can get an asset back for the long term over losing him for nothing.

Knicks FO is probably weighing what is better.

Keep Deuce for an entire extra year from now, and maybe you lose him for nothing but absolutely get another playoff run with him. That is a possibility. Extend him now and it’s trickier to trade him this upcoming season? I’m not sure. Trade Deuce this offseason and lose Shamet for whatever reason, you are hosed. Trade Deuce (and possibly more) now for a rookie contract and maybe you are trading him at peak value and get someone on a 4 year cost controlled contract and you have room to extend Shamet when his bird rights kick in; Shamet just turned 29 and easily could have 3+ more years at this level as a backup SG. That rookie better provide value within a year or so, you can’t do the Dillingham thing ala Minny. Walt gotta get that one correct.

Maybe McCullar with Shamet in front of him off bench is good enough and much more cost controlled than Deuce. Deuce and Shamet both have been injury prone over last 2 seasons.

Lots of options to weigh.

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