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aj griffin is someone we need to stay far away from
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the tall guy seems to be a good pick, who briggs said looks like lamarcus.

this FO will trade down and pick up another future 2nd
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Lots of wings available. We have grimes, RJ, Evan and CAM. One can be traded. We need a starting PG and drafting one rare. We might need a 5 as well. PF? We got two right now.

I usually say draft best player available but this year Im not sure. Mitch? Trades?
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ESPN Mock Draft(Givony)1. Houston Rockets

Chet Holmgren | Gonzaga | 7-0 | PF | Age: 19.9

2. Orlando Magic

Jabari Smith | Auburn | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.8

3. Detroit Pistons

Paolo Banchero | Duke | 6-10 | PF/C | Age: 19.3

Banchero's outstanding freshman campaign came to end against North Carolina with the projected top-3 NBA pick turning in a 20-point, 10-rebound performance that was very representative of his clear strengths and glaring improvement areas.

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On the offensive end, Banchero showed flashes of brilliance. He knocked down a pair of decisive trail 3s (one off the catch and one off the bounce), used his powerful 250-pound frame to attack the rim rather than settle for contested pull-ups, and finished post-ups over Brady Manek and Armando Bacot. Banchero scoring 20 points on 17 shots against a below average defender in Manek isn't going to convince NBA teams that he should be the No. 1 pick. The fact that he did struggle a bit to finish over length at times is noteworthy when you consider his good -- not great -- reach (he shot 49% from 2 in the NCAA tournament). Not scoring a bucket over the last 7:37 is also something naysayers will point to. The 19-year-old still showed yet again how much of a mismatch he is for opposing defenses, which should surely translate well with NBA spacing.

It was Banchero's spotty defensive effort that will likely stick with NBA scouts. UNC had a clear plan to bring Banchero into action to force a switch and attack him. Banchero held up OK in these situations despite getting caught a little flat-footed on a couple occasions, even blocking R.J. Davis at the rim after a switch. He also added some value as a defensive rover when he was defending Leaky Black as he started the game fairly disruptive, and altered a shot at the rim as the drop defender in the second half.

Overall, Banchero's NCAA tournament run should be considered a success, as he averaged 18.8 points, 7.6 rebounds and 3.4 assists while shooting 53% from 3 over five games. He's the most polished of the potential top-3 picks and a strong candidate to compete for Rookie of the Year pending his potential new team. But for the teams that were already concerned about Banchero's defensive impact -- preferring the two-way play of Jabari Smith and Chet Holmgren -- Saturday's heartbreaking loss to UNC likely didn't help change their mind. -- Mike Schmitz

Complete scouting report from Mike Schmitz (No. 3 in Top 100)

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4. Oklahoma City Thunder

Jaden Ivey | Purdue | 6-4 | PG/SG | Age: 20.1

5. Indiana Pacers

Keegan Murray | Iowa | 6-9 | PF/C | Age: 21.6

6. Portland Trail Blazers

Shaedon Sharpe | Kentucky | 6-6 | SG | Age: 18.8

7. Sacramento Kings

Johnny Davis | Wisconsin | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 20.1

8. New Orleans Pelicans (from Lakers)

AJ Griffin | Duke | 6-6 | SF/PF | Age: 18.6

Griffin capped off a freshman season that featured tremendous highs and head-scratching lows with a clunker in Duke's loss to UNC as he went just 1-for-7 from the field (0-for-4 from 3) for six points in 29 minutes. One of the youngest players in the country, Griffin has been feast or famine all season, either catching fire from beyond the arc and splashing tough step-back 3s or showing his youth and inexperience with inconsistent decision making on both ends. The UNC game was the ladder for the 18-year-old wing, as he looked relatively out of rhythm offensively, hoisting up a couple contested triples, failing to knock down the open ones, and appearing relatively limited in terms of burst and bounce when he tried to put pressure on the rim. Griffin did make a heady drop-off pass after collapsing the defense on penetration. He also had some solid defensive moments making it tough on Caleb Love in the first half while using his 7-foot wingspan on an energetic crack-down block. He still runs into screens too often, doesn't mix it up on the defensive like he could, and has his lapses off the ball defensively.

Griffin's Final Four performance feeds into the question that some of his naysayers have asked this season: What does he do in the NBA when he's not making shots? Aside from an 18-point performance in a win over Arkansas and a 21-point outing against Miami in the ACC tournament, Griffin had his fair share of ups and downs over the last 10 games as he failed to reach double-digits four times, shot 33% from 3 and registered just six assists. There's still a lot to like about Griffin. He's young, built like an NBA wing, has a strong basketball pedigree, shot 45% on the season, and had stretches during the year where he looked like Duke's best prospect, displaying better ball skills than most players with his body type while also finding ways to add value as a cutter. Last Saturday's tough showing is a perfect example of why Griffin is one of the more polarizing and often confusing prospects projected in the top-10. -- Schmitz

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9. San Antonio Spurs

Jalen Duren | Memphis | 6-10 | C | Age: 18.3

10. Washington Wizards

Dyson Daniels | G League Ignite | 6-6 | PG/SG | Age: 19.0

11. Portland Trail Blazers (from Pelicans)

Mark Williams | Duke | 7-1 | C | Age: 20.3

Williams was unable to settle in and have his usual two-way impact as he picked up his second foul that forced him to sit the final 15 minutes of the first half. Williams was again forced to the bench in the second half as he collected his fourth foul with just over 10 minutes remaining. On top of that, Williams missed two huge free throws with 47 seconds remaining that would have put Duke up one. Williams never got in a true rhythm during his 16 minutes, finishing with eight points, four rebounds and zero blocks -- it was only the second time all season that Williams didn't record at least one block. Although not an elite defensive rebounder, Williams' 9-8 reach was sorely missed on the glass, as UNC chased down 17 offensive rebounds.

The 20-year-old sophomore did still have a couple highlights, hammering home four dunks off of putbacks and drop offs, bringing his NCAA total to 17 over five games. He was a mixed bag defending pick-and-roll, taking away passing angles for the ball handler several times, racking up a couple deflections in the process. It's hard to complain about his contest against Caleb Love in what proved to be a back-breaking pull-up 3 for the Blue Devils. But he was a bit too deep in drops on occasion and still gets too high in his stance from time to time.

Given the tough whistle along with his strong body of work as a lob-catching, shot-blocking, offensive rebounding center, Williams' up and down Final Four performance isn't likely to affect his draft stock as he's all but solidified his status as a top-20 prospect, with the potential to earn looks in the late lottery with a strong pre-draft process. With a reach bigger than Rudy Gobert and some stylistic similarities to centers ranging from Robert Williams to Mitchell Robinson to Clint Capela, there are no shortage of successful bigs in Williams' mold, which gives him one of the highest floors among big men prospects not named Chet Holmgren. -- Schmitz

Complete scouting report from Mike Schmitz (No. 11 in Top 100)

12. New York Knicks

Bennedict Mathurin | Arizona | 6-6 | SF | Age: 19.7

13. Charlotte Hornets (Hawks if 19-30)

Jeremy Sochan | Baylor | 6-9 | PF | Age: 18.8

14. Houston Rockets (from Nets)

TyTy Washington Jr. | Kentucky | 6-4 | PG/SG | Age: 20.3

15. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Clippers)

Tari Eason | LSU | 6-8 | PF | Age: 20.9

16. Atlanta Hawks

Ochai Agbaji | Kansas | 6-6 | SF | Age: 21.9

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is contributions were more muted in the four other tournament contests, scoring 43 points on 16-for-45 shooting, demonstrating his limitations as a ball handler and passer while having too many lapses with his off-ball awareness and rotations, showing his just-average feel for the game.

Agbaji looks like a plug-and-play 3-and-D NBA caliber wing with his strong 215-pound frame, 6-10 wingspan, 41% 3-point shooting, high-intensity level and ability to score in transition on straight line-drives, especially coming off screens. It was important for him to get back on track from beyond the arc as the tournament progressed as he was mired in a deep slump from the perimeter, hitting 26% for 3 in the 10 games prior to the Elite Eight. When Agbaji gets into rhythm and is playing with confidence, he looks like one of the most dynamic shot-makers in college basketball, rising up smoothly pulling up in transition, ducking behind handoffs and sprinting off pin downs or staggers with outstanding footwork.

The senior won the last 11 games of his college career, was named a First-Team All-American, and likely secured a spot for his jersey to hang in the rafters of Allen Fieldhouse in the process. That should also translate to a spot in the green room on draft night and potentially hearing his name called in the lottery by NBA commissioner Adam Silver. -- Jonathan Givony

17. Indiana Pacers (from Cavaliers)

Malaki Branham | Ohio St. | 6-5 | SG | Age: 18.8

18. Chicago Bulls

Ousmane Dieng | NZ Breakers | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.8

After watching a New Zealand Breakers practice, shootaround and NBL game in Cairns, Australia, Dieng reminded me exactly why he was once considered a top-10 prospect in this class and should earn late lottery consideration once NBA execs get eyes on the 18-year-old. Seeing him in live game action for the first time since the 2019 U16 European Championships, Dieng is now 6-10 in shoes with a 7-0 wingspan, has a thin yet developing frame, and guard-like agility that helps him on both ends of the floor. He was the best player on the court during the practice I evaluated, handling the ball with extreme fluidity while firing several one-handed passes you rarely see from players his height.

With the NBL season winding down, Dieng has put his forgettable start to the season behind him and is now playing the best basketball of his young career. After failing to reach double digits scoring the first 11 games of the season -- with two goose eggs sprinkled in -- Dieng has now scored at least 11 points in seven of his last nine games, capped off by 38 combined points in his last 47 minutes in back-to-back games against Cairns.

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While he shows real promise as a ball handler, pick-and-roll creator, shooter and is incredibly smooth with everything he does, Dieng is still a ways away from being able to impact winning at the NBA level, at least with any type of consistency. Although greatly improved, his defensive toughness comes and goes. He's a poor rebounder who doesn't always box out or pursue the ball. He's a finesse over physicality finisher. And he thumbs the ball as a shooter, which plays a role in the fact that he's shooting 24% from 3 and 64% from the free-throw line. His success does come with a bit of a caveat, as the Breakers sit in last place of the NBL standings.

Whether it's as a Nicolas Batum type, Kyle Anderson or some leaner version of Boris Diaw, there's a clear pathway and role for Dieng in the NBA. Dieng has persevered through a brutal start to the season, all while playing zero true home games with the New Zealand borders still closed due to the pandemic. Expect to hear his name a lot more between now and draft night, as he's the type of tantalizing talent that tends to rise in the pre-draft process. -- Schmitz

Complete scouting report from Mike Schmitz (No. 18 in Top 100)

We also scouted top-100 prospects Hugo Besson (No. 32), Ariel Hukporti (No. 71) and Luke Travers (No. 95) on this trip. Evaluations can be found on their respective ESPN Top 100 profile pages.

19. Minnesota Timberwolves

Kennedy Chandler | Tennessee | 6-1 | PG | Age: 19.5

20. San Antonio Spurs (from Raptors)

Blake Wesley | Notre Dame | 6-5 | SG | Age: 19.0

21. Memphis Grizzlies (from Jazz)

MarJon Beauchamp | G League Ignite | 6-6 | SG/SF | Age: 21.4

22. Denver Nuggets

E.J. Liddell | Ohio St. | 6-7 | PF | Age: 21.2

23. Milwaukee Bucks

Walker Kessler | Auburn | 7-1 | C | Age: 20.6

24. Brooklyn Nets (from 76ers)

Nikola Jovic | Mega Mozzart | 6-10 | SF | Age: 18.8

25. San Antonio Spurs (from Celtics)

Kendall Brown | Baylor | 6-8 | SF | Age: 18.9

26. Dallas Mavericks

Trevor Keels | Duke | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 18.6

If this was the final game of Keels' career, he went out in style. The 18-year old freshman gave Duke a huge lift off the bench by scoring 19 points, the most production he's had against an NCAA tournament team since scoring 25 against Kentucky in November's Champions Classic.

Keels attacked the rim ferociously, throwing in six of his seven attempts from inside the arc, including several difficult finishes in traffic showing his high skill level. He also hit a pair of 3-pointers, highlighted by one especially memorable shot to put Duke ahead with two minutes left. Keels also showed his toughness and energy with several strong rebounds and defensive plays on and off the ball chasing North Carolina's guards around the perimeter.

Every time Duke needed someone to make a play, Keels looked happy to step up, never looking afraid of the moment. When the Blue Devils were starved for offense early in the game, he came in and went right to work to give them a boost and help change the momentum. Down three, Keels easily could have tied the game with 11 seconds left with an and-1 layup that was controversially called on the floor.

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Slotted 8 to 11. Next few games may decide if we have a chance .

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Will the Kentucky influx continue? However, he is moving up quickly.

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4/11/2022  2:19 PM

Perfect pick for us
6-8 219 two way sf

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BRIGGS wrote:

Perfect pick for us
6-8 219 two way sf

And he could absolutely play some small ball PF too. I like him.

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BRIGGS wrote:

Perfect pick for us
6-8 219 two way sf

Good slasher off the bench. He has low bball IQ on both ends but mebbe Thibs gets him right defensively, especially on his foul tendencies.

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martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:

Perfect pick for us
6-8 219 two way sf

And he could absolutely play some small ball PF too. I like him.

Kind of like Wilson chandler with better handles

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So if I understand it correctly we are currently slotted in at the 12th pick, barring an unlikely jump to the top 4. The other scenario to move up -- one slot -- is if the Pels or Spurs advance past the play in?
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KnickDanger wrote:So if I understand it correctly we are currently slotted in at the 12th pick, barring an unlikely jump to the top 4. The other scenario to move up -- one slot -- is if the Pels or Spurs advance past the play in?

You are correct, I did not know this.

https://www.bulletsforever.com/2021/5/6/22422509/washington-wizards-nba-play-in-tournament-draft-consequences-explained

What are the draft consequences of the tournament?

This is a bit confusing. Normally, a team finishing 9th or 10th in its conference is eligible for the NBA Lottery Draft. Not this year! At least, under some circumstances: one of those teams will be eligible but the other could lose its eligibility if it is overly eager to make it into the playoffs (sound #soWizards?). Here is how it will work:

If a 9th or 10th seeded team manages to win both of its games in the tournament it will no longer participate in the NBA Draft Lottery. Similarly, to sneak into the Draft Lotery, a 7th or 8th seeded team will need to lose both of its games in the tournament.

What if the 9th or 10th seeded teams win exactly one game? In that case, the team is still lottery-bound and its lottery odds are in a sense unaffected and are still calculated based on its regular season (72 game) winning percentage.

Similar logic applies, say, to a 7th seeded team that dropped to 8th after the play-in tournament: the picks it owns in the Draft (in the range 15-60) will still be ordered according to the regular-season record.


https://www.blazersedge.com/2022/4/2/23007920/nba-draft-lottery-rules-odds-play-in-portland-trail-blazers-2022-new-orleans-pelicans-pick

With a loss to the San Antonio Spurs on Friday night, the Portland Trail Blazers were officially eliminated from the 2022 NBA Playoffs. Spun more positively, Portland qualified for the NBA Lottery drawing for the first time since 2013. The lottery rules have changed since then, so here’s a primer on how it works.

The 2022 NBA Draft Lottery drawing will happen on Tuesday, May 17th. The Blazers and 13 other NBA teams will participate. Those will be the 14 teams who do not make the playoffs.

Unlike in most previous years, the lottery will not necessarily consist of the 14 teams with the worst records. If a 9th or 10th seed from either conference gets into the playoffs via the Play-In Tournament, the team they supplanted—the team formerly in the 7th or 8th spot, now bumped out—will participate in the lottery drawing.

In other words, the Play-In Tournament doesn’t affect the number of teams in the lottery...that’s still the 14 non-playoffs teams. It only affects who those teams might be.

This explains why the Blazers will be keen to see the New Orleans Pelicans miss the playoffs. Portland gets the Pelicans’ pick as a result of the mid-season CJ McCollum trade, but ONLY if that pick falls between 5-14 in the draft order. If New Orleans makes the playoffs, their pick will not fall in the Top 14, and thus will not convey to Portland.

Once the 14 teams are set, the drawing will determine the Top 4 picks.

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Thanks. May 17th here we come.
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KnickDanger wrote:Thanks. May 17th here we come.

I can't believe it, in 5 days we will be knee deep in draft prospecting... hopefully for positions 1-4

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BRIGGS wrote:
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:

Perfect pick for us
6-8 219 two way sf

And he could absolutely play some small ball PF too. I like him.

Kind of like Wilson chandler with better handles


I was getting more Robert Covington vibes with his size, defensive versatility and the potential for a three point shot.
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martin wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Thanks. May 17th here we come.

I can't believe it, in 5 days we will be knee deep in draft prospecting... hopefully for positions 1-4

We're due right? We'll all focus our psychic energy on those ping pong balls!
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