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Nalod
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10/27/2021  11:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2021  11:42 AM
Swishfm3 wrote:
Nalod wrote:This narrative of Melo was shunned and was sent home is old.
Melo’s play and inability to adapt got him sent home.

You don't honestly believe that do you?

He was sent away 10 games into the season that year and, if I'm not mistaken, only played with both Harden and Paul in maybe half of them because they were both injured.

Lets not forget that they released Melo after hiring Jeff Bzdelik who, supposedly had issues with Melo back in Denver, and "apparently" wouldn't accept the Rockets position with him there.



Right. After 10 games the Rockets who were ambitious at that time having won 65 games without Melo but with Jeff Bzdelik THE YEAR BEFORE (actually he was there two seasons before), and rather than send the coach packing, they made Melo inactive and nobody wanted him.
Rockets started 1-5. 4-6 with him over 10.
10 games Melo played 29 min. I won't even break down the stats because it was a short sample. Only thing that jumped out was he had 5 assists in 10 games.
Team finished 53-29 losing to GS in conf semi's.
Nobody picked him up the rest of the year.
Your missing the feel good of the story, the dude stepped up! The blame game? Melo was not in great shape and he was made gone. Can't Say Melo was great with MDA either given his time in NY with him.
But melo signed on to rockets with those guys in place. He choose to play in there. After 10 games, nobody picked him up. Rockets paid him.
Didn't he lose weight and get in better shape returning the next season in Portland? Fat Melo is still a hell of a basketball player. If he had beef with Bzdelik and MDA, why did he sign there? Did he not have other choices?
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10/27/2021  4:42 PM

New Mavericks coach Jason Kidd says he used ultra-rare 15-man rotation at request of team's leadership council

The leadership council consists of Luka Doncic, Kristaps Porzingis and Tim Hardaway Jr.

…”All 15 guys played. If we could have played the two-way [players], we would have played them too," Kidd told reporters after the game. "This came to me this morning through the council that we have. Those players that I talked to thought this was a great idea. So, I was with it.

"We always talk about 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 as part of the team and they tend not to get to play, but they come to work everyday like the starters or the rotation guys," Kidd added. "I think this shows what kind of character, what kind of guys we have in that locker room, which is really, really cool."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/as-ben-simmons-76ers-stalemate-continues-the-egos-of-doc-rivers-and-daryl-morey-deserve-more-scrutiny/
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10/27/2021  6:19 PM
smackeddog wrote:

New Mavericks coach Jason Kidd says he used ultra-rare 15-man rotation at request of team's leadership council

The leadership council consists of Luka Doncic, Kristaps Porzingis and Tim Hardaway Jr.

…”All 15 guys played. If we could have played the two-way [players], we would have played them too," Kidd told reporters after the game. "This came to me this morning through the council that we have. Those players that I talked to thought this was a great idea. So, I was with it.

"We always talk about 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 as part of the team and they tend not to get to play, but they come to work everyday like the starters or the rotation guys," Kidd added. "I think this shows what kind of character, what kind of guys we have in that locker room, which is really, really cool."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/as-ben-simmons-76ers-stalemate-continues-the-egos-of-doc-rivers-and-daryl-morey-deserve-more-scrutiny/

Is this a roundtable? If so, I hope they have comfy ergonomic chairs so KP does not get a nother injury while sitting down at one of these minutes.

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10/27/2021  7:24 PM
Nalod wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:
Nalod wrote:This narrative of Melo was shunned and was sent home is old.
Melo’s play and inability to adapt got him sent home.

You don't honestly believe that do you?

He was sent away 10 games into the season that year and, if I'm not mistaken, only played with both Harden and Paul in maybe half of them because they were both injured.

Lets not forget that they released Melo after hiring Jeff Bzdelik who, supposedly had issues with Melo back in Denver, and "apparently" wouldn't accept the Rockets position with him there.



Right. After 10 games the Rockets who were ambitious at that time having won 65 games without Melo but with Jeff Bzdelik THE YEAR BEFORE (actually he was there two seasons before), and rather than send the coach packing, they made Melo inactive and nobody wanted him.
Rockets started 1-5. 4-6 with him over 10.
10 games Melo played 29 min. I won't even break down the stats because it was a short sample. Only thing that jumped out was he had 5 assists in 10 games.
Team finished 53-29 losing to GS in conf semi's.
Nobody picked him up the rest of the year.
Your missing the feel good of the story, the dude stepped up! The blame game? Melo was not in great shape and he was made gone. Can't Say Melo was great with MDA either given his time in NY with him.
But melo signed on to rockets with those guys in place. He choose to play in there. After 10 games, nobody picked him up. Rockets paid him.
Didn't he lose weight and get in better shape returning the next season in Portland? Fat Melo is still a hell of a basketball player. If he had beef with Bzdelik and MDA, why did he sign there? Did he not have other choices?

I read that whole situation differently (maybe its the Melo colored glasses I wear) but I understand what you saying.
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10/27/2021  10:06 PM
Looks like Brooklyn paying Harden $40m per to be fat and an average player
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10/27/2021  10:52 PM
martin wrote:Looks like Brooklyn paying Harden $40m per to be fat and an average player

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10/27/2021  10:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/27/2021  10:58 PM
Anointed, “cool,” Nets and Lakers lose tonight now with 2 - 3 records. KP questionable for Mavs’ next game. And oh yeah, “not cool” Knicks 3 - 1. I’m good.
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10/27/2021  11:22 PM
KnickDanger wrote:Anointed, “cool,” Nets and Lakers lose tonight now with 2 - 3 records. KP questionable for Mavs’ next game. And oh yeah, “not cool” Knicks 3 - 1. I’m good.

It's waaaay early, but KP being out is a good thing for the Mavs.
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10/27/2021  11:43 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Anointed, “cool,” Nets and Lakers lose tonight now with 2 - 3 records. KP questionable for Mavs’ next game. And oh yeah, “not cool” Knicks 3 - 1. I’m good.

It's waaaay early, but KP being out is a good thing for the Mavs.


Not if they're trying to trade him.
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10/27/2021  11:54 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Anointed, “cool,” Nets and Lakers lose tonight now with 2 - 3 records. KP questionable for Mavs’ next game. And oh yeah, “not cool” Knicks 3 - 1. I’m good.

It's waaaay early, but KP being out is a good thing for the Mavs.


Not if they're trying to trade him.

He's unmoveable at that salary.
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10/28/2021  12:08 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2021  12:16 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Anointed, “cool,” Nets and Lakers lose tonight now with 2 - 3 records. KP questionable for Mavs’ next game. And oh yeah, “not cool” Knicks 3 - 1. I’m good.

It's waaaay early, but KP being out is a good thing for the Mavs.


Not if they're trying to trade him.

He's unmoveable at that salary.


I think so too, but everytime I say that a deal comes around that surprises me. They need to try a pump and dump him to a sucker. Maybe the Cavs want him to play SG in XL starting lineup featuring Allen, Lauri and Mobley.
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10/28/2021  12:15 AM
Two things: Australia seems to have removed the curse of Dante Exum. Giddey is a stud.
Second, how could Pelinka not know that Westbrook is a bad fit? Everyone could see it coming. That move just seemed desperate.
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10/28/2021  1:35 AM
martin wrote:
martin wrote:Looks like Brooklyn paying Harden $40m per to be fat and an average player

This is awesome.

That **** had become unwatchable, and a disgrace.

I wonder what the tipping point was. Must have been hurting the NBA in the pocket.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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10/28/2021  8:19 AM
ToddTT wrote:
I wonder what the tipping point was. Must have been hurting the NBA in the pocket.
hopefully they just looked at the product, saw the games were taking too long to play and especially too long to finish, how can they shorten and improve game flow and said lets get rid of these fouls that arent part of basketball. Harden throwing himself against a wall or another player while he shoots shouldnt result in a foul call. Im sooooo glad its not anymore. This is a huge plus.

On another note the Lakers coughed up a 25+ point lead to OKC. Stuff happens in this league. Even half the scrubs are flamethrowers on the right night

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10/28/2021  8:40 AM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:Looks like Brooklyn paying Harden $40m per to be fat and an average player

This is awesome.

That **** had become unwatchable, and a disgrace.

I wonder what the tipping point was. Must have been hurting the NBA in the pocket.

Could the tipping point be how poorly team USA started because they were all trying to bait fouls and the FIBA refs were not calling it? It became comical looking at them flopping around like fish and showed that the NBA game was no longer pure basketball. I remember for like a week people were wishing the NBA called things the same way.
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10/28/2021  9:20 AM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:Looks like Brooklyn paying Harden $40m per to be fat and an average player

This is awesome.

That **** had become unwatchable, and a disgrace.

I wonder what the tipping point was. Must have been hurting the NBA in the pocket.

I knew he was the poster boy for the new rule, now it seems his hamstring is still an issue because he's never really been in any kind of tip top shape.

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10/28/2021  9:25 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Two things: Australia seems to have removed the curse of Dante Exum. Giddey is a stud.
Second, how could Pelinka not know that Westbrook is a bad fit? Everyone could see it coming. That move just seemed desperate.

Did you mean to say Pelinka or LeBron?

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10/28/2021  9:32 AM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Two things: Australia seems to have removed the curse of Dante Exum. Giddey is a stud.
Second, how could Pelinka not know that Westbrook is a bad fit? Everyone could see it coming. That move just seemed desperate.

Did you mean to say Pelinka or LeBron?

Both, I guess

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10/28/2021  9:54 AM
I can’t imagine the lakers/vogel/Pelinka/Magic/Westbrook/lebron/most media not thinking it would take at least half the season to get westbrook into a team rhythm. Its a media circus that feeds itself there as in NY. He is a surly one for sure and in a laker uni even more dislikable!!!!

Kidd and the “Players Council”. Its funny but this is out of PHil Jax playbook where you let the players adjust and be accountable. If they are part of the decision process they have skin in it and have to see it thru. Granted, this is not the Bulls with Jordan but if this team is to succeed Doncic has to establish leadership and accountabiilty. If KP is to reach his potential he also needs the maturity to digest responsibility. Its somthing that likely is done more frequently but kept in house. Kidd has been an autocratic type coach and perhaps trying now to be the “Cool guy” (Like Fiz?) and be a “Players coach”. Maybe it works.
They are not a great roster but have nice pieces in place to be a 5 or better seed in the west. Not predicting anyting great here.

Sac is 2-2? Minny beat Milwaukee in their house? Is the tide turning a bit?
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10/28/2021  12:03 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Anointed, “cool,” Nets and Lakers lose tonight now with 2 - 3 records. KP questionable for Mavs’ next game. And oh yeah, “not cool” Knicks 3 - 1. I’m good.

It's waaaay early, but KP being out is a good thing for the Mavs.


Not if they're trying to trade him.

He's unmoveable at that salary.


I think so too, but everytime I say that a deal comes around that surprises me. They need to try a pump and dump him to a sucker. Maybe the Cavs want him to play SG in XL starting lineup featuring Allen, Lauri and Mobley.

How far into the future millenia can Dallas include 1st round picks for a salary dump?

KP plus 15 first rounders out to 2037?
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