Jmpasq wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:This thread is typical of what I have come to expect from some of the posters here. Take every opportunity to dump on a player and then respond with surprise and comments like "I think there isn't a single Knicks fan that doesn't want the best for Frank". Well it's simple, if you want the best for the kid, STFU and support him when he needs it the most. This constant whining and bitching about straight up extrapolation of half assed media reports is why players never even have a shot of growing to their potential on NY. BTW Starksewing1 completely nailed it.

Says the guy who posts under the name Meloshouldgo

And your point is?

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Irish it was from a quote what Frank said. Maybe I wasn't clear in my post but I got the impression from Popper's article that Frank is homesick. 'Probably' followed by, "I will make sure I come back stronger and even better' sounds like Frank, not a news outlet, is saying he is going to go home but will still work on his game. I try to go with what I actually hear a guy say because I know things are taken out of context. I can't find this interview but from the quote, Probably go home but will work... is a guy saying his plan at this point is to go home. Let me ask both of you, if someone says they probably are going home and talk about what they are going to work on when they are home do you usually think that they aren't going home?

I think that all rookies go home. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. OF. THEM.

It means NOTHING to what they will actually do during the summer.

Again, do you realistically think ANY of the rookies this year have even come close to solidifying summer plans? Or even started to think about them?

You jumped to a conclusion based off of, well, nothing but a reporter asking a rookie a very leading question.

And it's your right to. Not sure you why you would want to.

It was based on his answer. I did not see the interview. There is an interview with Frank on msg's website but it doesn't have that quote. I would love to see the interview. But I am going by what he said. Are you suggesting that his answer was taken out of context? His plans for the summer could change but the words he is saying are not indicating that.

I am suggesting exactly what I said: An interviewer asked Frank a leading question. You are drawing and making conclusions from those questions and answers and have also mentioned you have not seen the interview.

Why would you go by snippets of what perhaps someone said? This is my underlying: You are relying on NY papers to provide you some solid info when you and everyone else knows that they write headlines, quotes and entire article just for clickbait and whatnot. Some of divisive, some of it gossipy.

Read into it what you will.

I have no idea how the topic came up. Frank's family is visiting. I am not going to make an assumption about what question was asked or the context. The only thing we have is the quote unless there is a link to the interview.

No, we have a lot more ammunition than just the quote. We have intuition and simple leaps of logic.

Have you EVER heard of another rookie asked what he was going to do or what his plans are regarding the summer during the all-star break? Probably not, only in NY.

Have you ever heard of a 19 year old asked a 1-off question where he says that "I will probably come back home, but I will take care of working on my game" and then saw an article whose title was "Knicks might not love Frank Ntilikina’s offseason plan"? Probably not, only in NY.

Do we know what click-bait is? YES. A lot of it from Isola, Berman and the NY rags.

Read into it what you will.

I must be missing something. There is a quote where Frank said he probably is going home this summer and will work on getting stronger. Not the worst thing in the world. I don't think Willy, Kuz or Sasha stuck around last year. We know KP didn't and unlike the previous year, no Knick coach worked with him.
The NY media is brutal. Berman, Bondy, Isola etc. do exactly what you describe but not a lot that is super sensational in this quote and it is from a quote. A 19 year old kid from another country wanting to go home seems normal especially when his family is visiting. I don't think this is deviousness by the media. I don't think FRank got tricked into saying something he didn't mean. If you believe those things then we disagree. I have a hard time seeing how you would come to that conclusion though in this situation.

... and yet:

CrushAlot wrote:I am disappointed that he is not going to be in NY for the summer. It sounds like he is pretty homesick in the Popper article. He may need to go home and be with family. I don't think he will benefit as much as he would if he stayed in NY and worked on his game.

You are already disappointed in Frank. You are disappointed because you don't think he will be in NY during the summer.

I can't understand why you would be disappointed given my above.

On a "probably is going home this summer" statement.

You took an offhand comment, asked by an offhand question, replied with a Probably and were disappointed with Frank.

I didn't realize it was such a sensitive topic for you.

It isn't. I started the response by saying that I was surprised you would respond the way you did with such lack of info. IDK Crush, I just expected more?

meloshouldgo wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:This thread is typical of what I have come to expect from some of the posters here. Take every opportunity to dump on a player and then respond with surprise and comments like "I think there isn't a single Knicks fan that doesn't want the best for Frank". Well it's simple, if you want the best for the kid, STFU and support him when he needs it the most. This constant whining and bitching about straight up extrapolation of half assed media reports is why players never even have a shot of growing to their potential on NY. BTW Starksewing1 completely nailed it.

Says the guy who posts under the name Meloshouldgo

And your point is?

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I didn't realize it was such a sensitive topic for you.

It isn't. I started the response by saying that I was surprised you would respond the way you did with such lack of info. IDK Crush, I just expected more?

Hmm let me say this differently, didn't come across very well. You are a prolific reader and podcast listener, probably one of the more wide gatherers of Knicks info (if not The most on this site IMHO). Tweets, podcasts, articles, videos, lots and lots of info. I love that, especially when you post them and let us know what you are reading/hearing. I am also interested in how people like you process the information you gather because you come across a TON of it and also because you pass it along, both of which I appreciate. Gathering, passing along and also processing that info is not an easy thing and I'm always interested in how people go through those steps; the processing part is probably the most valuable and influential.

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Cartman718 wrote:i think as long as Frank exhibits the same type of maturity/fire/hunger that KP has with taking his game to another level, he will be fine. he already showed it against cavs and lakers.

i was dead against starting him or being in the rotation if the true goal to appease KP was to get to playoffs. With KP out for season...no reason to not play frank 30 mins a night and ditto for mudiay...jack and lee and thjr should sit most mins and let us lose games while the kids frank, mudiay, dotson develop

I completely agree. The Porzingis injury gives this team a year to use to develop the young talent on the roster, plus 2018 picks. The hope is when Porzingis comes back healthy, this is a significantly better team ready to compete for the playoffs and our young guys are more NBA ready.

Nalod wrote:Who had the second most minutes tonite?
Who was on the floor when the game ended?

Nalod wrote:Who had the second most minutes tonite?
Who was on the floor when the game ended?

Ummmm....Trey Burke?! and to add to that...who had the most pts? Who had the most assist? Who had the most rbds for the Knick guards?

Knixkik wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

Nalod wrote:Who had the second most minutes tonite?
Who was on the floor when the game ended?

Not exactly a showcase performance. But I guess we can shift our standards to minutes forcedfed as a proxy to actual good play. So in keeping with that frank was amazing.

Because defense doesn't matter at all right?

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:

Nalod wrote:Who had the second most minutes tonite?
Who was on the floor when the game ended?

Not exactly a showcase performance. But I guess we can shift our standards to minutes forcedfed as a proxy to actual good play. So in keeping with that frank was amazing.

Because defense doesn't matter at all right?

He looked great on d. Is it me or is his d better when he is relieved of full time ball handling duties? Not sure and it is a small sample size at this point.

He shows flashes all the time, but then again so has besely his whole career.

He was off the ball a lot last nite.
“His whole career? Not even a full season at age 19.
Knicks1248 I posted his minutes last nite because you seem to have felt that since he was not starting his minutes would be cut with Mudiay. You thought Jack would be still playing.
Knick won. THat is never a bad thing. Even in a tank.
Road game also.