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GustavBahler
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3/17/2018  6:50 PM
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I seriously think the Knicks are gonna hit the Jackpot this draft... then we will be terrible again next year, draft well again, but then get KP back and sign a big free agent and win a ****ing championship in 2020!

I love that plan!

That should definitely be the plan!

For real though, 2 top 10 picks and 1 good free agent in 2019 could change the fortunes of this team!

2020? Right after I win powerball.....

Make sure you play and when you win you better find me you negative Nancy. I need like 5 mill off your winnings

5 million? Sure Eny, righf after I see you in the Alba thread.

Hey if you hit Powerball and you get a lump sum of 50 mill.... least you can do is give me 5 mill. You come with negativity and I counter you with winning the power ball in 2020 right before the draft. Good luck 🤞

LOL @ trying to make me feel guilty for not promising to hand you 5 million dollars.

Im one of the more optimistic posters on this board but 2020? Got XTC?

If you don't slide the 5 mill over don't be mad at Karma even she comes to get you 💅

Extortion = Bad Karma

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3/17/2018  7:28 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I seriously think the Knicks are gonna hit the Jackpot this draft... then we will be terrible again next year, draft well again, but then get KP back and sign a big free agent and win a ****ing championship in 2020!

I love that plan!

That should definitely be the plan!

For real though, 2 top 10 picks and 1 good free agent in 2019 could change the fortunes of this team!

2020? Right after I win powerball.....

Make sure you play and when you win you better find me you negative Nancy. I need like 5 mill off your winnings

5 million? Sure Eny, righf after I see you in the Alba thread.

Hey if you hit Powerball and you get a lump sum of 50 mill.... least you can do is give me 5 mill. You come with negativity and I counter you with winning the power ball in 2020 right before the draft. Good luck 🤞

LOL @ trying to make me feel guilty for not promising to hand you 5 million dollars.

Im one of the more optimistic posters on this board but 2020? Got XTC?

If you don't slide the 5 mill over don't be mad at Karma even she comes to get you 💅

Extortion = Bad Karma

I'm just messing with you but seriously extortion? A well wish turns to extortion?

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3/17/2018  8:01 PM
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
wargames wrote:
martin wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I seriously think the Knicks are gonna hit the Jackpot this draft... then we will be terrible again next year, draft well again, but then get KP back and sign a big free agent and win a ****ing championship in 2020!

I love that plan!

That should definitely be the plan!

For real though, 2 top 10 picks and 1 good free agent in 2019 could change the fortunes of this team!

2020? Right after I win powerball.....

Make sure you play and when you win you better find me you negative Nancy. I need like 5 mill off your winnings

5 million? Sure Eny, righf after I see you in the Alba thread.

Hey if you hit Powerball and you get a lump sum of 50 mill.... least you can do is give me 5 mill. You come with negativity and I counter you with winning the power ball in 2020 right before the draft. Good luck 🤞

LOL @ trying to make me feel guilty for not promising to hand you 5 million dollars.

Im one of the more optimistic posters on this board but 2020? Got XTC?

If you don't slide the 5 mill over don't be mad at Karma even she comes to get you 💅

Extortion = Bad Karma

I'm just messing with you but seriously extortion? A well wish turns to extortion?

So was I. Sounded like you were trying to use Karma for your own devices. She decides.

I will make a donation to the Willy Hernangomez fan club in your name! The new rec center will be named after you. Not to mention the 20 foot statue of you and Willy high fiving each other!

If I win the powerball, we'll discuss it at the UK suite at MSG with full buffet! Lol

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3/17/2018  9:22 PM
Dent in the tank
Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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3/17/2018  10:00 PM
Crap!
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3/18/2018  3:30 AM
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3/18/2018  7:50 AM
What was the point of watching Knicks basketball this year? It was brutal, our best player gets career threatening injury, and at the end of all this we won't pick anywhere near enough to the top to get someone to change this. On most nights the best player on the floor was someone anyone could of had in Trey Burke. Seriously can someone please explain to me why I bother to watch?
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3/18/2018  12:48 PM
Knixkik wrote:Mikal bridges with another great game. He's top 5 in my book.

Too bad we're stuck drafting at 9.....

We're gonna have to choose betweem Young, Sexton, Miles, and Knox at this point.....

The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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3/18/2018  2:06 PM
wargames wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Mikal bridges with another great game. He's top 5 in my book.

Too bad we're stuck drafting at 9.....

We're gonna have to choose betweem Young, Sexton, Miles, and Knox at this point.....

It depends. Mikal is an older prospect so he may fall.

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3/18/2018  2:13 PM
Jmpasq wrote:What was the point of watching Knicks basketball this year? It was brutal, our best player gets career threatening injury, and at the end of all this we won't pick anywhere near enough to the top to get someone to change this. On most nights the best player on the floor was someone anyone could of had in Trey Burke. Seriously can someone please explain to me why I bother to watch?

First off, the start of this season we were actually playing pretty well and was in a play off spot before the slump happened. Then we ended up blowing hot and cold, and unfortunately KP suffered a season ending injury which fingers crossed won't derail a promising career. With that said, was this season ever going to be anything more than 30-win type of season? I don't remember any one of note predicting that we would make the play offs this season. So this year we will probably finish with a win-loss record that most expected before the season began.

As for our draft pick, I wouldn't worry if we do end up picking 9th because we could select from Wendell Carter, Trae Young, Collin Sexton, Kevin Knox, Mikal Bridges and Miles Bridges. Some of them do have all star potential if they develop and others like Mikal Bridges project well into a 3-and-D wing role which we currently lack. We might love to draft another star, but in the event that we don't, remember that adding a really good supporting player can be just as good for this team. We already have a star in KP, a potential second option in Tim Hardaway, hopefully Frank Ntilikina comes good on his tremendous upside, and if we slot into that line a good 3-and-D wing we are one piece away from having a good starting line up. If next year is a bad year (it probably will be with us missing KP) then another top pick is likely, and that's without considering us recruiting someone of note in free agency.

Also, who knows maybe we win the lottery! Rewind to 2008 and the team with the 9th best odds, the Chicago Bulls, won the lottery and drafted Derrick Rose. So maybe we get luck and end up with a pick far higher than our seeding should really get us.

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3/18/2018  4:52 PM
Mike1989 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:What was the point of watching Knicks basketball this year? It was brutal, our best player gets career threatening injury, and at the end of all this we won't pick anywhere near enough to the top to get someone to change this. On most nights the best player on the floor was someone anyone could of had in Trey Burke. Seriously can someone please explain to me why I bother to watch?

First off, the start of this season we were actually playing pretty well and was in a play off spot before the slump happened. Then we ended up blowing hot and cold, and unfortunately KP suffered a season ending injury which fingers crossed won't derail a promising career. With that said, was this season ever going to be anything more than 30-win type of season? I don't remember any one of note predicting that we would make the play offs this season. So this year we will probably finish with a win-loss record that most expected before the season began.

As for our draft pick, I wouldn't worry if we do end up picking 9th because we could select from Wendell Carter, Trae Young, Collin Sexton, Kevin Knox, Mikal Bridges and Miles Bridges. Some of them do have all star potential if they develop and others like Mikal Bridges project well into a 3-and-D wing role which we currently lack. We might love to draft another star, but in the event that we don't, remember that adding a really good supporting player can be just as good for this team. We already have a star in KP, a potential second option in Tim Hardaway, hopefully Frank Ntilikina comes good on his tremendous upside, and if we slot into that line a good 3-and-D wing we are one piece away from having a good starting line up. If next year is a bad year (it probably will be with us missing KP) then another top pick is likely, and that's without considering us recruiting someone of note in free agency.

Also, who knows maybe we win the lottery! Rewind to 2008 and the team with the 9th best odds, the Chicago Bulls, won the lottery and drafted Derrick Rose. So maybe we get luck and end up with a pick far higher than our seeding should really get us.


I already know whats going to happen Mikal Bridges will go a spot or 2 before we pick, all the real 3's will be gone. We will be left with one of the bust Centers or Miles Bridges who I want no part of. Miles Bridges has no place on this roster, he doesn't fit next to KP, he makes no sense
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3/18/2018  5:30 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
Mike1989 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:What was the point of watching Knicks basketball this year? It was brutal, our best player gets career threatening injury, and at the end of all this we won't pick anywhere near enough to the top to get someone to change this. On most nights the best player on the floor was someone anyone could of had in Trey Burke. Seriously can someone please explain to me why I bother to watch?

First off, the start of this season we were actually playing pretty well and was in a play off spot before the slump happened. Then we ended up blowing hot and cold, and unfortunately KP suffered a season ending injury which fingers crossed won't derail a promising career. With that said, was this season ever going to be anything more than 30-win type of season? I don't remember any one of note predicting that we would make the play offs this season. So this year we will probably finish with a win-loss record that most expected before the season began.

As for our draft pick, I wouldn't worry if we do end up picking 9th because we could select from Wendell Carter, Trae Young, Collin Sexton, Kevin Knox, Mikal Bridges and Miles Bridges. Some of them do have all star potential if they develop and others like Mikal Bridges project well into a 3-and-D wing role which we currently lack. We might love to draft another star, but in the event that we don't, remember that adding a really good supporting player can be just as good for this team. We already have a star in KP, a potential second option in Tim Hardaway, hopefully Frank Ntilikina comes good on his tremendous upside, and if we slot into that line a good 3-and-D wing we are one piece away from having a good starting line up. If next year is a bad year (it probably will be with us missing KP) then another top pick is likely, and that's without considering us recruiting someone of note in free agency.

Also, who knows maybe we win the lottery! Rewind to 2008 and the team with the 9th best odds, the Chicago Bulls, won the lottery and drafted Derrick Rose. So maybe we get luck and end up with a pick far higher than our seeding should really get us.


I already know whats going to happen Mikal Bridges will go a spot or 2 before we pick, all the real 3's will be gone. We will be left with one of the bust Centers or Miles Bridges who I want no part of. Miles Bridges has no place on this roster, he doesn't fit next to KP, he makes no sense

If we pick 9 and Mikal is gone, it depends who else is taken. If it's Ayton, Bamba, Jackson, Porter, Bagley, Doncic and Young, then we could always draft Kevin Knox if we want a SF or Wendell Carter if we want a PF/C with KP playing the other spot, both players should fit well next to KP. The other candidate is Sexton but that would mean Ntilikina playing SG or coming off the bench. I doubt we'd panic and draft Miles Bridges at 9, then again it is the Knicks...

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3/18/2018  8:58 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
Mike1989 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:What was the point of watching Knicks basketball this year? It was brutal, our best player gets career threatening injury, and at the end of all this we won't pick anywhere near enough to the top to get someone to change this. On most nights the best player on the floor was someone anyone could of had in Trey Burke. Seriously can someone please explain to me why I bother to watch?

First off, the start of this season we were actually playing pretty well and was in a play off spot before the slump happened. Then we ended up blowing hot and cold, and unfortunately KP suffered a season ending injury which fingers crossed won't derail a promising career. With that said, was this season ever going to be anything more than 30-win type of season? I don't remember any one of note predicting that we would make the play offs this season. So this year we will probably finish with a win-loss record that most expected before the season began.

As for our draft pick, I wouldn't worry if we do end up picking 9th because we could select from Wendell Carter, Trae Young, Collin Sexton, Kevin Knox, Mikal Bridges and Miles Bridges. Some of them do have all star potential if they develop and others like Mikal Bridges project well into a 3-and-D wing role which we currently lack. We might love to draft another star, but in the event that we don't, remember that adding a really good supporting player can be just as good for this team. We already have a star in KP, a potential second option in Tim Hardaway, hopefully Frank Ntilikina comes good on his tremendous upside, and if we slot into that line a good 3-and-D wing we are one piece away from having a good starting line up. If next year is a bad year (it probably will be with us missing KP) then another top pick is likely, and that's without considering us recruiting someone of note in free agency.

Also, who knows maybe we win the lottery! Rewind to 2008 and the team with the 9th best odds, the Chicago Bulls, won the lottery and drafted Derrick Rose. So maybe we get luck and end up with a pick far higher than our seeding should really get us.


I already know whats going to happen Mikal Bridges will go a spot or 2 before we pick, all the real 3's will be gone. We will be left with one of the bust Centers or Miles Bridges who I want no part of. Miles Bridges has no place on this roster, he doesn't fit next to KP, he makes no sense

I had a similar feeling and was secretly hoping villanova would lose early so Mikal would stay where he is. But anything can happen and at this rate we may be up to 7 or 8 and if we miss him, someone is going to drop into our laps. I don't see them taking Miles or a bust center. It ll be one of the PG's and now that both young and sexton lost, they have a little more to prove in workouts leading up to the draft.

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3/19/2018  12:09 AM

The best Pro Scouts don't fall for the march madness hype and look at a broader picture.
Euro's will enter back in the conversation later in the spring.
Trae Young wilted and will be judged in his workouts properly. His range is questionable. Is it sustainable in the NBA or was he a college novelty?
Some players will rise, others fall. Same as it ever was....
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3/19/2018  12:11 PM
SGA for me at #9 --- like Sexton as well --- not a T-Young fan --- Mykal would be nice but don't think he drops that far now.

Would entertain trade down with Sixers at #12 and #17 still get SGA and maybe a wing defender like J-Evans/K-Thomas...or an upside player like a T-Brown or Hammy-D.

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3/19/2018  12:13 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Picks as of January 6
#14 nick ward. F/ c michigan state
Pick 33 jalen brunson pg villanova
Pick 39 Markus Howard pg MRquette

Dear mother of god if we came out of this draft with Nick Ward and J-Brunson --- holy mackerel.

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3/19/2018  2:25 PM
Had a discussion with a friend of mine. If we do get the 9th pick would u guys try and trade down with like Phoenix for the 15 and 16 and try and trade one plus our young guys like mudiay or Burke any pg not named Frankie ti Charlotte for kembs? If Jordan would fall for it? Or trade the 9th puck straight up for kemba or abguy like Tobias Harris in La? To lighten the load on kp when he cones back and give thj a hand cause he is OK but a helper ?
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3/19/2018  4:47 PM
LivingLegend wrote:SGA for me at #9 --- like Sexton as well --- not a T-Young fan --- Mykal would be nice but don't think he drops that far now.

Would entertain trade down with Sixers at #12 and #17 still get SGA and maybe a wing defender like J-Evans/K-Thomas...or an upside player like a T-Brown or Hammy-D.

I dont like Sexton's size.

SGA would be great.. and I am a huge Frank fan. Cant have enough skilled and LONG guys like that.

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3/20/2018  1:54 PM
Regardless of what you think of him, you have to give this kid serious consideration if he is there at 9. The NBA is an offensive league, and he is one of the best offensive players in the draft scoring and assisting...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/trae-young-give-knicks-steph-curry-like-nightmare-nba-draft-article-1.3885953


Trae Young is officially on the Knicks’ radar now that the Oklahoma freshman guard has announced that he is entering the NBA draft.

Draft boards project Young, who led the nation in scoring and assists, to be selected anywhere from seventh to 10th. The Knicks, eliminated from playoff contention on Monday, currently own the ninth-worst record in the NBA.

GM Scott Perry will have an interesting decision on his hands when the Knicks are on the clock.

It is eerily similar to 2009 when the Knicks, selecting eighth overall, had their eyes on a slight, dynamic scoring guard out of Davidson. But Golden State shattered that dream when the Warriors selected Stephen Curry seventh. The rest is history.
Then-Knicks president Donnie Walsh, who believed Curry would flourish under Mike D'Antoni, picked Jordan Hill. It gets worse.

Toronto, picking ninth, selected DeMar DeRozan. In case you're wondering, Hill plays for the Vancouver Knights of the North American Premier Basketball League having previously played for the Nevada Desert Dogs. Yes, it's been a rough couple of decades for the Knicks.

Young was being touted as the next Curry by the television networks and within no time he was the biggest name in college basketball. But NBA scouts are divided on whether Young is the next Curry or perhaps the next Shabazz Napier. Is he All-Star talent or just a rotation player?

"I know there will be doubts again as I prepare for the draft," Young told ESPN. "I don't pretend to be ready to play in the NBA today, but I am determined to do what I've always done: invest in the work to prepare for the league and the incredible challenges it presents. I'm going to start training immediately for the draft, building up strength throughout my body, sharpening my skills and studying the best of the best."

Knicks-Bulls rivalry now just competing for draft position
The 76ers select Markelle Fultz with the No. 1 pick.
Best of the 2017 NBA Draft
Napier won two national titles at UConn and was drafted 24th overall in 2014. He's now a back-up with Portland, his third NBA team.

Curry is a two-time MVP, a two-time NBA champion and arguably the greatest shooter in league history. The 6-foot-3 Curry also spent three seasons at Davidson before entering the NBA draft. He was the breakout star of the 2009 NCAA tournament.

Young, generously listed at 6-foot-2, finished with an 18-14 record for Oklahoma. The Sooners lost nine of their last 11 games, including a 30-point loss on the road at Kansas. Teams designed their defensive game plans around stopping Young. In his last nine games, Young made just 22 of 83 three-point shots. He'll have more to work with in the NBA.

The Knicks clearly aren't sold on Frank Ntilikina, the eighth overall pick from the 2017 draft. That's why they traded for Denver's Emmanuel Mudiay, the seventh overall pick of the 2015 draft. As you can see, this isn't an exact science.

Frank Ntilikina confident he can build off his career night
The Knicks lost out on Steph Curry to the Warriors in the 2009 draft.
The Knicks lost out on Steph Curry to the Warriors in the 2009 draft. (JASON DECROW/AP)
But having talented guards is essential. The top three teams in the Western Conference are guard-dominated: James Harden, Chris Paul, Curry and Klay Thompson, Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum. In the East, Toronto has Kyle Lowry and DeRozan. The Celtics have Kyrie Irving.

There is plenty of time for the Knicks to figure this out. They'll conduct workouts and interview all of the top prospects. But barring a minor miracle at the draft lottery, the Knicks will likely select eighth or ninth.

And Young could be there. As will the memory of losing out on Stephen Curry nine years earlier.

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Uptown wrote:Regardless of what you think of him, you have to give this kid serious consideration if he is there at 9. The NBA is an offensive league, and he is one of the best offensive players in the draft scoring and assisting...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/trae-young-give-knicks-steph-curry-like-nightmare-nba-draft-article-1.3885953


Trae Young is officially on the Knicks’ radar now that the Oklahoma freshman guard has announced that he is entering the NBA draft.

Draft boards project Young, who led the nation in scoring and assists, to be selected anywhere from seventh to 10th. The Knicks, eliminated from playoff contention on Monday, currently own the ninth-worst record in the NBA.

GM Scott Perry will have an interesting decision on his hands when the Knicks are on the clock.

It is eerily similar to 2009 when the Knicks, selecting eighth overall, had their eyes on a slight, dynamic scoring guard out of Davidson. But Golden State shattered that dream when the Warriors selected Stephen Curry seventh. The rest is history.
Then-Knicks president Donnie Walsh, who believed Curry would flourish under Mike D'Antoni, picked Jordan Hill. It gets worse.

Toronto, picking ninth, selected DeMar DeRozan. In case you're wondering, Hill plays for the Vancouver Knights of the North American Premier Basketball League having previously played for the Nevada Desert Dogs. Yes, it's been a rough couple of decades for the Knicks.

Young was being touted as the next Curry by the television networks and within no time he was the biggest name in college basketball. But NBA scouts are divided on whether Young is the next Curry or perhaps the next Shabazz Napier. Is he All-Star talent or just a rotation player?

"I know there will be doubts again as I prepare for the draft," Young told ESPN. "I don't pretend to be ready to play in the NBA today, but I am determined to do what I've always done: invest in the work to prepare for the league and the incredible challenges it presents. I'm going to start training immediately for the draft, building up strength throughout my body, sharpening my skills and studying the best of the best."

Knicks-Bulls rivalry now just competing for draft position
The 76ers select Markelle Fultz with the No. 1 pick.
Best of the 2017 NBA Draft
Napier won two national titles at UConn and was drafted 24th overall in 2014. He's now a back-up with Portland, his third NBA team.

Curry is a two-time MVP, a two-time NBA champion and arguably the greatest shooter in league history. The 6-foot-3 Curry also spent three seasons at Davidson before entering the NBA draft. He was the breakout star of the 2009 NCAA tournament.

Young, generously listed at 6-foot-2, finished with an 18-14 record for Oklahoma. The Sooners lost nine of their last 11 games, including a 30-point loss on the road at Kansas. Teams designed their defensive game plans around stopping Young. In his last nine games, Young made just 22 of 83 three-point shots. He'll have more to work with in the NBA.

The Knicks clearly aren't sold on Frank Ntilikina, the eighth overall pick from the 2017 draft. That's why they traded for Denver's Emmanuel Mudiay, the seventh overall pick of the 2015 draft. As you can see, this isn't an exact science.

Frank Ntilikina confident he can build off his career night
The Knicks lost out on Steph Curry to the Warriors in the 2009 draft.
The Knicks lost out on Steph Curry to the Warriors in the 2009 draft. (JASON DECROW/AP)
But having talented guards is essential. The top three teams in the Western Conference are guard-dominated: James Harden, Chris Paul, Curry and Klay Thompson, Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum. In the East, Toronto has Kyle Lowry and DeRozan. The Celtics have Kyrie Irving.

There is plenty of time for the Knicks to figure this out. They'll conduct workouts and interview all of the top prospects. But barring a minor miracle at the draft lottery, the Knicks will likely select eighth or ninth.

And Young could be there. As will the memory of losing out on Stephen Curry nine years earlier.

No.. I really dont. Young is an incredibly exciting college player. What is Young's NBA skill set? There is nothing about Young that says lottery talent.
terrible shot selection
turn over machine
will instantly be the worst defensive player in the league with virtually no upside there

Yes... the NBA is an offensive league, which is why Young is a career backup/bench spark plug at best. You cant have a starting PG that turns every opposing PG into Westbrook.

I can comfortably say this front office wont sniff Young at 9 (thank god).

Sexton is another great college player. End of the day he's a 6'2 scorer.

I wouldnt touch either over SGA who if he declares will easily leapfrog both those two.

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