VCoug wrote:Melo played 41 ****ing minutes in this game. This is ****ing ridiculous. We're doing to him what MDA did to Amare his 1st year here.

Agreed. Rambo will continue running him to the ground until the end of the season unless Phil tells him to stop.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Jose played 40 minutes and Gallo played 35 and they combined to shoot 6-23 from the floor. That's just over 25% from our starting backcourt playing almost the whole game. How does this make any sense?

Meanwhile, Grant played 11 minutes (all 1st half), D Will played 12, KP played only 22 and KOQ got a DNP and we lost the game wire to wire.

Our young players are not going to get any better riding the pine when the playoffs are laughable at this point. Wizards beat Cleveland tonight and Detroit also won; there's no way we are surpassing these teams who are clearly better.

The Knicks just really really need a guard who can create offense for the team, take the ball out Melo's hands (lower his usage rate to a 2nd option) and lower the reliance on the Triangle to get good shots. What's lost on many people is that with the brilliance of Kobe or Pippen or guys like that, the championship teams were able to break away from the Triangle and rely on their top playmaking guard to create offense for the teammates and themselves. As good as Melo has tried to be this player, he's not a winning ball player in this role. Next season we need to get a guard who can run the offense the way Melo is currently trying to, to move Melo into a more scoring role (who looks to pass when he gets the ball but basically gets the ball in his strong attacking spots) and hope/pray that Porzingis is better on offense through work in the summer. That's our only hope at having a good season.

Mike Conley would allow us to run the Triangle, but not to the point where we rely on it that much, to push Melo into more of a scoring forward role and make us better on defense as well. I didn't think the guy was worth 20+ million to a NBA team, but we may be the one team he actually is worth all that. I'm fully on board with going all out to get him.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Jose played 40 minutes and Gallo played 35 and they combined to shoot 6-23 from the floor. That's just over 25% from our starting backcourt playing almost the whole game. How does this make any sense?

Meanwhile, Grant played 11 minutes (all 1st half), D Will played 12, KP played only 22 and KOQ got a DNP and we lost the game wire to wire.

Our young players are not going to get any better riding the pine when the playoffs are laughable at this point. Wizards beat Cleveland tonight and Detroit also won; there's no way we are surpassing these teams who are clearly better.

Yes. Didn't realize KO didn't play. This is some Zen wannabe crap. Not a fan of Grant earlier in the year but have to play him now that we have no shot at the playoffs. Have to invest some time for your 1st round picks. DWILL lack of time was also puzzling. Don't know if it's something he is making a point of that has been stressed to them in practice but you have to let them play. Think Phil and Rambis trying to run Melo to the ground so he quits amd makes an exit in the offseason. You keep him out of practice but play him 40+?

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Jose played 40 minutes and Gallo played 35 and they combined to shoot 6-23 from the floor. That's just over 25% from our starting backcourt playing almost the whole game. How does this make any sense?

Meanwhile, Grant played 11 minutes (all 1st half), D Will played 12, KP played only 22 and KOQ got a DNP and we lost the game wire to wire.

Our young players are not going to get any better riding the pine when the playoffs are laughable at this point. Wizards beat Cleveland tonight and Detroit also won; there's no way we are surpassing these teams who are clearly better.

Think in the last 10 games or so when we're eliminated we'll turn to that. It's not like the team is getting a draft pick this year. Trying to win games isn't a bad thing. I actually like what he's doing with both Porzingis and Grant. May be just me but I see better efforts from both Porzingis and Grant since Rambis has coached. He's made it clear to KP he will not accept defensive laziness. He's made it clear to Grant he wants him to run the offense a certain way. Grant looked solid tonight as did he the other night.

The Knicks just really really need a guard who can create offense for the team, take the ball out Melo's hands (lower his usage rate to a 2nd option) and lower the reliance on the Triangle to get good shots. What's lost on many people is that with the brilliance of Kobe or Pippen or guys like that, the championship teams were able to break away from the Triangle and rely on their top playmaking guard to create offense for the teammates and themselves. As good as Melo has tried to be this player, he's not a winning ball player in this role. Next season we need to get a guard who can run the offense the way Melo is currently trying to, to move Melo into a more scoring role (who looks to pass when he gets the ball but basically gets the ball in his strong attacking spots) and hope/pray that Porzingis is better on offense through work in the summer. That's our only hope at having a good season.

Mike Conley would allow us to run the Triangle, but not to the point where we rely on it that much, to push Melo into more of a scoring forward role and make us better on defense as well. I didn't think the guy was worth 20+ million to a NBA team, but we may be the one team he actually is worth all that. I'm fully on board with going all out to get him.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Jose played 40 minutes and Gallo played 35 and they combined to shoot 6-23 from the floor. That's just over 25% from our starting backcourt playing almost the whole game. How does this make any sense?

Meanwhile, Grant played 11 minutes (all 1st half), D Will played 12, KP played only 22 and KOQ got a DNP and we lost the game wire to wire.

Our young players are not going to get any better riding the pine when the playoffs are laughable at this point. Wizards beat Cleveland tonight and Detroit also won; there's no way we are surpassing these teams who are clearly better.

Think in the last 10 games or so when we're eliminated we'll turn to that. It's not like the team is getting a draft pick this year. Trying to win games isn't a bad thing. I actually like what he's doing with both Porzingis and Grant. May be just me but I see better efforts from both Porzingis and Grant since Rambis has coached. He's made it clear to KP he will not accept defensive laziness. He's made it clear to Grant he wants him to run the offense a certain way. Grant looked solid tonight as did he the other night.

The Knicks just really really need a guard who can create offense for the team, take the ball out Melo's hands (lower his usage rate to a 2nd option) and lower the reliance on the Triangle to get good shots. What's lost on many people is that with the brilliance of Kobe or Pippen or guys like that, the championship teams were able to break away from the Triangle and rely on their top playmaking guard to create offense for the teammates and themselves. As good as Melo has tried to be this player, he's not a winning ball player in this role. Next season we need to get a guard who can run the offense the way Melo is currently trying to, to move Melo into a more scoring role (who looks to pass when he gets the ball but basically gets the ball in his strong attacking spots) and hope/pray that Porzingis is better on offense through work in the summer. That's our only hope at having a good season.

Mike Conley would allow us to run the Triangle, but not to the point where we rely on it that much, to push Melo into more of a scoring forward role and make us better on defense as well. I didn't think the guy was worth 20+ million to a NBA team, but we may be the one team he actually is worth all that. I'm fully on board with going all out to get him.

KP has NEVER been lazy on offense or defense. His motor is pretty nonstop. Now he may get tired but its not a lack of effort

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Kemet wrote:Ko"Quinn n Serafin seen no minutes against Whiteside n a missing Bosh
Grant seen 11 minute of spot time with a missing Afflalo in the rotation
u wouldve thought Rambis wouldve assign D.Will to outscore J.Johnson
Melo's 9-24 shooting took his teammates out of the offense

Did force a bit but had several misses going strong to the basket. Just no legs to finish. Specially playing 40 plus and asked to be point guard, leading rebounder and assist guy. Maybe he should have passed it a bit more to his sharp shooting back court. Your right about KO though. Curious why he was kept out. And Grant has to play more minutes today. Cant be worse than Gallo.

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Clean wrote:I find it funny Rambis always talks about Jimmer with disdain but he plays Jose and Sasha without noticing the irony. I am not sure if Rambis is an upgrade over Fisher. I would have rather ride out the season with Fisher and then try to get an actual good coach.

Phil thought the problem was that Fisher wasn't running enough Triangle. Turns out Rambis running more Triangle makes them far worse.

Regardless, I don't think Phil ever said Rambis was brought in to get the team into the playoffs. I think he made it clear it was to improve the type of style they were playing and to improve the habits. In a few games we saw this. In 2 games - no (Raptors, Heat). I will say, you talk about Fish as if he did a great job. His Knicks also lost to Miami twice in November - averaging 78 points. While Fisher may have run less Triangle - it's not like he didn't run the Triangle at all. This team is what it is, holes and all. The major difference in Fisher and Rambis is that Rambis is more consistent with strategy, rotations and what he tells players. He's getting the team to practice together instead of individually. He's focused on giving the right feedback to Porzingis. This is a re-build throw a way year. No championships are going to be won. I have little problem with Rambis. This coming from a big KP fan, so saw him play only 20 minutes tonight.

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mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:2nd post

can't decide what made me more sick tonight, the stupid triangle or melo's horrible play.

WTF do you know about the Triangle?

not much, perhaps you can post some pictures and some more predictions about how great Grant aka mike conley will be and how we are winning 50 games this season?

Some people are smart enough to know when their sh1t aint lookin too hot and its time to hush up.

You were quiet as a mouse when the team reached .500 and now like the bytch you are you add your dumb comments like you just knew this was gonna happen.

That's ok cuz it's easy to be negative all the time so you can act like a genius when in fact you don't know **** about basketball. Any time you wanna really go in depth on a topic lets go.

You sound like a guy that isn't here for the Knicks but just to post annoying BS jokes. What did you contribute to this thread but a couple of negative lame ass posts.

well I am right in my predictions 90 percent of the time while your are wrong 100 percent of the time so at least my bytch joke predictions are not fiction.

Stop telling people how little they know while you have been atrociously wrong but are too damn dumb to even realize how pathetic you look.

I bytch predicting that Rolo would be good while pretty much everyone was killing him.

I bytch predicted that Afflalo was not good and was getting way too much cred on here.

I bytch predicted that Fisher was an eh player with an eh iq and therefore ....

I bytch predicted that rambis' has a bad hair transplant

I bytch suggested that we should assume that grant may be as good as charlie ward not mike conley (how damn dumb) but of course I got the WTF WTF blah blah blah BS from mr peach

I killed the triangle all year but hey .... show me some more damn pictures please and if I'm lucky maybe I can see some of tex winters handwritten notes that you jack off to.

I predicted 33 wins ... how bout you smartazz?

I always tell players that I play with to keep track of their shooting percentages so they are not fooled about how good their shots are. Perhaps you should keep a spreadsheet of your predictions so that you can perhaps help yourself see how off you usually are. There is homerism and then there is just plain ...

You done stroking you own dick. You still are a Garbage poster on this forum. All you do is post lame joke posts when the team is losing. Other than that what else do you really bring to the table. If the Knicks had a good game you'd have nothing to say tonight but as usual when it's going bad here you come to remind everyone how right you are about everything. Good job.

sour grapes. grow some balls and some brains. I done here. I will get back to my bytching snd dick stroking (of course the right way)