holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:again, porzingis bothering okafor's shot. length bothers okafor, just like length bothers boozer.

OK4 is out of shape..No lift on that shot..The 82 game/travel schedule will test who can hack it..When OK4 gets in shape and works on his ft, he will be a beast..

we know that he can be a beast in the post. We dont know if he will be in NBA shape at all times, if he will play passable defense, if he will be fat, if he will pout in philly, if he will be able to stretch the floor at all.

would I have picked him? Of course!

I think that KP has a bigger upside on both ends, especially in a more modern offense.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:again, porzingis bothering okafor's shot. length bothers okafor, just like length bothers boozer.

OK4 is out of shape..No lift on that shot..The 82 game/travel schedule will test who can hack it..When OK4 gets in shape and works on his ft, he will be a beast..

You a Knicks' fan or a player groupie?

KP played later into the year than OK4, has had a slight injury, and also played yesterday. OK4 has had a couple of days rest.

Give credit where credit is due.

I think Phil would have taken OK4 if he had to choose between the two, but we may have gotten a special player, and he gave you an idea of what he can do to help a team win, even without gaudy numbers.

BigDaddyG wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Interesting thing about Wilbekin is that he just turned 22 and he has played 4 yrs in college and one year in Australia/Greece.

I remember Donovan was desperate for guards and he got Wilbekin to enroll a year early. He's definitely added more polish to his game. He has always been a solid defender. He should be the third PG on someone's bench this season.

He has always been a better 3pt shooter than scorer/2pt shooter. It one of the reason why I think he cn have a Beverely type career. Grant only did things when he wasn't guarded by Wilbekin. The knicks brought him in last year and he had the second best ever conditioning time. Prigs is the record holder.

TPercy wrote:I could not watch the game but odours numbers looked very impressive. How was everyone.

Some big blocks in the end on OK4 by KP and Ndour.

Ndour a keeper, and KP came through when you needed him most, although he he a foolish play to send the game into OT.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:again, porzingis bothering okafor's shot. length bothers okafor, just like length bothers boozer.

OK4 is out of shape..No lift on that shot..The 82 game/travel schedule will test who can hack it..When OK4 gets in shape and works on his ft, he will be a beast..

Why not give our boy some credit, though? NDour also had a great block on OK4, too.

You a Knicks' fan or a player groupie?

KP played later into the year than OK4, has had a slight injury, and also played yesterday. OK4 has had a couple of days rest.

Give credit where credit is due.

I think Phil would have taken OK4 if he had to choose between the two, but we may have gotten a special player, and he gave you an idea of what he can do to help a team win, even without gaudy numbers.

WFT are u talking about??..Give credit..U and I have been talking about Ndour in other threads,,I have said multiple times in this thread alone about him as well...The best player ont he court is OK4..What does that have to do with the Knicks??..You guys are so protective of players that u think talk of the other team's star is a knock on the entire Knick team..Crazy...

We talking basketball here or just homerism??

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:again, porzingis bothering okafor's shot. length bothers okafor, just like length bothers boozer.

OK4 is out of shape..No lift on that shot..The 82 game/travel schedule will test who can hack it..When OK4 gets in shape and works on his ft, he will be a beast..

we know that he can be a beast in the post. We dont know if he will be in NBA shape at all times, if he will play passable defense, if he will be fat, if he will pout in philly, if he will be able to stretch the floor at all.

would I have picked him? Of course!

I think that KP has a bigger upside on both ends, especially in a more modern offense.

It's not about OK4 versus KP..They both will be at minimum decent players..KP I think is a few years away given his strength..But I can see OK4 contributions because he is more NBA ready..Acknowledging a guy's talent is not a knock on another player...

not at all.

I am comparing the 2 because they went back to back and played each other today.

TPercy wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

TPercy wrote:I could not watch the game but odours numbers looked very impressive. How was everyone.

Fun game to watch. We did not look great at times, but came through.

Some big blocks in the end on OK4 by KP and Ndour.

Ndour a keeper, and KP came through when you needed him most, although he he a foolish play to send the game into OT.

If everyone liked him then I'm all for I'm. Problem is that there is a 0 percent chance we get him. Ok glad our young buckets player well today. How was early on defense today?

early had some really good defensive moments.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:again, porzingis bothering okafor's shot. length bothers okafor, just like length bothers boozer.

OK4 is out of shape..No lift on that shot..The 82 game/travel schedule will test who can hack it..When OK4 gets in shape and works on his ft, he will be a beast..

Why not give our boy some credit, though? NDour also had a great block on OK4, too.

You a Knicks' fan or a player groupie?

KP played later into the year than OK4, has had a slight injury, and also played yesterday. OK4 has had a couple of days rest.

Give credit where credit is due.

I think Phil would have taken OK4 if he had to choose between the two, but we may have gotten a special player, and he gave you an idea of what he can do to help a team win, even without gaudy numbers.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:again, porzingis bothering okafor's shot. length bothers okafor, just like length bothers boozer.

OK4 is out of shape..No lift on that shot..The 82 game/travel schedule will test who can hack it..When OK4 gets in shape and works on his ft, he will be a beast..

one of the bigger ifs. what'd you think of the play where he gets stuffed by slim lanky and then decides a shot to the chin with the elbow is in order no less? i think it was a bitch move and showed a lack of character....

nixluva wrote:OK4 clearly has great talent. I'm just glad we also got a great young prospect cuz it would be a shame to come out of this draft and not get a top talent as well. Then when you throw Jerian into the mix it was a great draft for us.