as far as panic trades go, this one will hit the spot,

bargs fills a lot of needs for us and gives us a totally new scoring dimension,

7 foot long-ball guy that was always asked to be the big kahuna (picked 1 overall) and he crumbled under this pressure,

now he is going to be third in the scoring pecking order (if jr resigned), which will give him more freedom and less stress so that he will thrive,

Jmpasq wrote:We can find a better player for those 3 picks. It might not be right now but those 3 can be put to better use. Amares expiring contract next season with those 3 might get us something decent back.I dont understand the rush to make trades that dont make us any better

As a former #1 obviously hes a bust, but as 2nd or 3rd option he's good and he creates space and can handle the ball a little. The downside of this trade is we waste a mid first rounder on a gamble. The upside is he thrives in a lesser role on a team thats not losing every night. He's a very talented player, especially scoring.

Im not a big fan of his but you have to see there is talent and upside.

Also his contract expires when Tyson, Melo, Stat expire so in 2 two years we can blow this thing up and start totally clean if needed.

2011: shawne williams
2012: Jeremy Lin
2013: Chris Copeland/Prigioni

All these guys played really well when no expected them to do so. Copeland and Prigioni were in the running to make all rookie teams.

I have full trust in Glens European scout to find us another one.

1)The trade for Bargnani involves 3 picks. A first and 2 2nd rounders.

2)Bargnani runs through 2015-2016, hindering our 2015 free agency.

For the 1st one, I thought I read it was only the 2016 pick (that Denver can swap)? Never read about any second rounders. Guessing we'd competitive still in 2016, or in the case we sucked, Denver would own the pick, no?

For the 2nd, I'm pretty sure Bargnani expires the same as our core in 2015, and is a valuable expiring contract(along with Amare's) next season for the big free agency summer of 2015. What's the big deal with possibly upgrading our core for the next 2 seasons?

I'm confused to the amount of negativity this trade has generated, seems like low risk, high reward slightly lateral move since Camby and Novak are essentially useless. Are people really crying over the 2016 pick? Are we going to be in the lottery or something and I don't know it yet?

ChuckBuck wrote:Couple things I've seen thrown around here in the UK.

1)The trade for Bargnani involves 3 picks. A first and 2 2nd rounders.

2)Bargnani runs through 2015-2016, hindering our 2015 free agency.

For the 1st one, I thought I read it was only the 2016 pick (that Denver can swap)? Never read about any second rounders. Guessing we'd competitive still in 2016, or in the case we sucked, Denver would own the pick, no?

For the 2nd, I'm pretty sure Bargnani expires the same as our core in 2015, and is a valuable expiring contract(along with Amare's) next season for the big free agency summer of 2015. What's the big deal with possibly upgrading our core for the next 2 seasons?

I'm confused to the amount of negativity this trade has generated, seems like low risk, high reward slightly lateral move since Camby and Novak are essentially useless. Are people really crying over the 2016 pick? Are we going to be in the lottery or something and I don't know it yet?

djsunyc wrote:one thing not mentioned is that bargs plays well against bosh + miami, he plays well against noah + chicago and he plays well against hibbert + indy.

he will help in those potential post season scenarios.

That's what I've been thinking this whole time. This guy will pull guys like Noah and Hibbert out to the 3 point line. Way out of defensive coverage and rebounding range.

Didn't we average like 80 something points in the playoffs? Doesn't this solve these problems?

Potential downside is his defense and rebounding is so awful Woodson Burt's him on the bench like he did with Novak and Amare at times. Not worried about the nagging injuries only knee, feet and back.

With that said Knicks finish 5th or lower and exit in the 1st rd possibly 2nd rd again.

Unless we upgrade at starting pg with a pg who is an efficient shooter, speed and most important of all COURT VISION which Felton has never had

Another positive is we can finally blow this up and rebuild the right way after 2015. Not trade every asset and sign guys for $20mil per. But as has been proven time and time again the Knicks just don't operate without the clumsiness under Jimmy Beam