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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
12/14/2012 3:40 PM
gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing wrong with that TKF. Just like when people try to pass off that the Knicks would be better with Gallo and company vs melo is also an opinion not fact. Thats where arguments go down hill when you are arguing the past vs the present. Right now the present is pretty damn good if you are a Knicks fan. Just saying Melo won't win MVP and presenting facts doesn't make you a hater. Agendas is what gets people in trouble yea, I remember that.. lol Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30155 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
12/14/2012 3:59 PM
gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing wrong with that TKF. Just like when people try to pass off that the Knicks would be better with Gallo and company vs melo is also an opinion not fact. Thats where arguments go down hill when you are arguing the past vs the present. Right now the present is pretty damn good if you are a Knicks fan. Just saying Melo won't win MVP and presenting facts doesn't make you a hater. Agendas is what gets people in trouble While I agree that there has been to much baiting. I'm not buying the whole innocent act though. When the Knicks lost back to back games. We heard quotes like "oh well this is the team Melo wanted he is going to have to live with it". "Mike Wooodson is a hypocrite". When we won vs Miami without Melo it was "see I told you Melo is a 0 sum player". The only thing holding a lot of you guys back from doing the same things you are accusing others is the Knicks record. Last season it was Melo who ruined Linsanity, it was Melo who made MDA quit, it was Melo who brought the whole team down. And there was a thread on it every day. "Denver plays perfect team ball and is on pace for 60wins while Knicks are mediocre". "Shouldn't Denver get worse after losing there star player". Denver is now mediocre after all the talent we gave up and Knicks are on pace to 60wins. They have never been this mediocre with Carmelo Anthony on there roster. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
12/14/2012 4:11 PM
Thats fair too. It is pretty annoying
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
12/14/2012 5:02 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing wrong with that TKF. Just like when people try to pass off that the Knicks would be better with Gallo and company vs melo is also an opinion not fact. Thats where arguments go down hill when you are arguing the past vs the present. Right now the present is pretty damn good if you are a Knicks fan. Just saying Melo won't win MVP and presenting facts doesn't make you a hater. Agendas is what gets people in trouble historically the stats have shown that melo is much closer to a zero-sum player and his playoff record underscores this. fool's gold players will get exposed. this year he has elevated his game but needs to make supreme effort defensively and maintain a TS% above 58. he does that the knicks will be more successful in the playoffs. denver may have made a mistake in trading for iguodala but it is still early. but yes they are mediocre right now. also lawson needs to improve his orchestrating. knicks are defending their home court like you would expect, beating teams they should beat. the prize is a strong ECF performance and every game should be seen through this lens! knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
12/14/2012 5:06 PM
Kobe Knows Best.
NEW YORK -- As the legend of Jeremy Lin grows, the looming questions about Carmelo Anthony's return are also gaining momentum. What's going to happen when Anthony returns to the lineup? Will he bring the Knicks' new and exciting ball movement to a screeching halt, or will Mike D'Antoni have to adjust is system to adapt to one of the league's best scorers?
The bulk of Anthony's scoring this season has come off isolation plays, which, at times, made the Knicks' offense stagnant. Players have admitted to being lulled into watching Anthony instead of keeping the offense moving. The fear is that the increased tempo New York has seen with Lin at the point will be slowed by Anthony's need to pound the ball into the post. Bryant did not accept the idea that Anthony might need to make a big adjustment when he returns to the lineup from a strained right groin injury. "He's not a player that's going to dribble the ball a whole bunch, so I think that is a little overrated," said Bryant, who also thrives in isolation plays. "They need to get the ball to Melo in the post and in the mid-post because that's where he operates, and its frees him up to do what he does best. "He's not going to be a facilitator, so people need to stop expecting that from him. That can be Jeremy Lin's job. Melo can put the ball in the basket and let [Lin] do what he does best." Lakers' Kobe Bryant defends NY Knicks' Carmelo Anthony, says critics were wrong to criticize him for not fitting in with Jeremy Lin last season
PUBLISHED: FRIDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2012, 2:55 AM
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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cooch2584
Posts: 21586 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2006 Member: #1187 |
12/14/2012 5:28 PM
Notice,Kobe aint talking stats or TS%. Kobe is talking like a very knowledgeable bball player.Ill take Kobes opinion over a bucket full of meaningless stats and unwarrented hate. There are many agendas being shown here but the only agenda that counts is wins and losses. And right now we are the team to beat. Finally, the Knicks are the talk of all the web sites and sports tv and radio. Why cant some just enjoy this national attention and soak in the glory?.Remember all the negative talk about this franchise over the past 10-15yrs about how we sucked and how we were a dysfunctional org. Its all changed, so myself, keep the stats and WINNING IS THE ONLY THING.
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Knickoftime
Posts: 24159 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2011 Member: #3370 |
12/14/2012 6:09 PM
dk7th wrote:historically the stats have shown that melo is much closer to a zero-sum player and his playoff record underscores this. fool's gold players will get exposed. Sir, I'd caution you against the "fool's gold" argument. This has led you astray in the past. The Heat were "fool's gold" to you once. |
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tkf
Posts: 36487 Alba Posts: 6 Joined: 8/13/2001 Member: #87 |
12/14/2012 7:09 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing wrong with that TKF. Just like when people try to pass off that the Knicks would be better with Gallo and company vs melo is also an opinion not fact. Thats where arguments go down hill when you are arguing the past vs the present. Right now the present is pretty damn good if you are a Knicks fan. Just saying Melo won't win MVP and presenting facts doesn't make you a hater. Agendas is what gets people in trouble pinky was a baaaaaad man... haha Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
12/14/2012 9:07 PM
cooch2584 wrote:Notice,Kobe aint talking stats or TS%. Kobe is talking like a very knowledgeable bball player.Ill take Kobes opinion over a bucket full of meaningless stats and unwarrented hate. There are many agendas being shown here but the only agenda that counts is wins and losses. And right now we are the team to beat. Finally, the Knicks are the talk of all the web sites and sports tv and radio. Why cant some just enjoy this national attention and soak in the glory?.Remember all the negative talk about this franchise over the past 10-15yrs about how we sucked and how we were a dysfunctional org. Its all changed, so myself, keep the stats and WINNING IS THE ONLY THING. Kobe talking about basketball.........
"I just asked him, ‘What the hell are you doing? To hell with them.’ You have to do what you do best and I think the organization put pieces around him that allow him to do that and now you guys all celebrate him for doing what he’s always done. It’s funny. God bless you guys." "Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
12/14/2012 9:34 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing wrong with that TKF. Just like when people try to pass off that the Knicks would be better with Gallo and company vs melo is also an opinion not fact. Thats where arguments go down hill when you are arguing the past vs the present. Right now the present is pretty damn good if you are a Knicks fan. Just saying Melo won't win MVP and presenting facts doesn't make you a hater. Agendas is what gets people in trouble Excellent post, nyny. And you'll notice the response to your points is strenously straining at gnats at best. But as has already been stated, this could go on forever. Now back to our Heat/Laker beating lives, fellas. Nothing to see here. |
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 30155 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
12/14/2012 10:46 PM
dk7th wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:tkf wrote:gunsnewing wrote:There is nothing wrong with that TKF. Just like when people try to pass off that the Knicks would be better with Gallo and company vs melo is also an opinion not fact. Thats where arguments go down hill when you are arguing the past vs the present. Right now the present is pretty damn good if you are a Knicks fan. Just saying Melo won't win MVP and presenting facts doesn't make you a hater. Agendas is what gets people in trouble If was placed on Denver's roster. In your opinion what would there record be right now? https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
12/14/2012 11:41 PM
cooch2584 wrote:Notice,Kobe aint talking stats or TS%. Kobe is talking like a very knowledgeable bball player.Ill take Kobes opinion over a bucket full of meaningless stats and unwarrented hate. There are many agendas being shown here but the only agenda that counts is wins and losses. And right now we are the team to beat. Finally, the Knicks are the talk of all the web sites and sports tv and radio. Why cant some just enjoy this national attention and soak in the glory?.Remember all the negative talk about this franchise over the past 10-15yrs about how we sucked and how we were a dysfunctional org. Its all changed, so myself, keep the stats and WINNING IS THE ONLY THING. you could stand a refresher course in psychology. bryant is a vain douche who is projecting his own limitations as a player onto carmelo who shares the exact same limitations. of course bryant would sympathize with what amounts to an extension of himself. both these dudes lack utterly the ability for self-reflection and introspection. in speaking about carmelo's problems he is speaking about himself. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
12/14/2012 11:48 PM
dk7th wrote:Bryant has won five championships. Are you suggesting that he thinks his game is flawed and would support another guy that he thinks is flawed in the same way? I don't see these two as that similar but I think at this point Melo is much harder to handle on the offensive end. Last night they were saying he was better than Durant. However, if flawed Melo can lead his team to anywhere close to five championships I am down with the psychology and projections. I take any guys flaws that gets five rings for the Knicks.cooch2584 wrote:Notice,Kobe aint talking stats or TS%. Kobe is talking like a very knowledgeable bball player.Ill take Kobes opinion over a bucket full of meaningless stats and unwarrented hate. There are many agendas being shown here but the only agenda that counts is wins and losses. And right now we are the team to beat. Finally, the Knicks are the talk of all the web sites and sports tv and radio. Why cant some just enjoy this national attention and soak in the glory?.Remember all the negative talk about this franchise over the past 10-15yrs about how we sucked and how we were a dysfunctional org. Its all changed, so myself, keep the stats and WINNING IS THE ONLY THING. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Anji
Posts: 25523 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 4/14/2006 Member: #1122 USA |
12/14/2012 11:51 PM
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
12/14/2012 11:54 PM
The Brooklyn New Yorker wearing a Red Sox cap lol
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
12/14/2012 11:54 PM
Knickoftime wrote:dk7th wrote:historically the stats have shown that melo is much closer to a zero-sum player and his playoff record underscores this. fool's gold players will get exposed. i maintained that the heat were not going to win their first year together because wade and lebron were redundant and would not be able to play with each other in the half court. they succeeded by their defense leading to turnovers until they met a superior team in the mavs, who kept the ball moving and took care of the ball. great coaching by carlisle and an mvp performance by dirk. be honest the heat offense that first year was stinko. flummoxed by the zone of all things but that's what happens when you lack steady jumpshooting. last year they figured it some of it out to their credit, allowing lebron to control more of the action-- wade subsumed his ego beautifully. this season they are keeping track of hockey assists as a component of their approach. the key for melo is to make a supreme effort on the defensive end, demanding the most difficult assignment, whether he is scoring or not. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
12/14/2012 11:58 PM LAST EDITED: 12/14/2012 11:58 PM
dk7th wrote:I disagree. He can always score. He is the best scorer in the nba and the team struggles to score when he isn't on the court. He has upped his d, effort and focus and is communicating with his teammates. If he is the best matchup for the other teams best player put him on that guy but don't put the most dynamic offensive player in the nba in a position where he is going to be compromised by fouls just because.Knickoftime wrote:dk7th wrote:historically the stats have shown that melo is much closer to a zero-sum player and his playoff record underscores this. fool's gold players will get exposed. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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