Why play guys that likely aren't fully invested in this team? As for CB, if he's catching an attitude that would change my opinion of him, cuz we need him to help this team win games, not try to coach the team. If he wants to see more D, he can direct the players on the floor and give advice in practice and on the court, like he did to TD. Still I don't believe that CB has a problem with Mike.

The biggest problem lately has been CB's inability to run the team offensively. It hasn't really been the defense that much lately, but low scoring qtrs that are not typical for this team. All of a sudden we can't score over 100 pts when we've been a bigtime offensive team. Just look at the number of TO's that CB has been committing lately. Is that Mike's fault? How about the bad shots he's been taking and not running the offense at all? Mike hasn't said anything negative about that, so why should CB take an attitude? Plus I don't believe it, cuz CB just said that he hoped to stay here in NY for a while.

Knicksfan wrote:We are becoming a consistently strong team in terms of making excuses.

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:I'm confident Walsh will find better role players for our bench next season..and a true big man.

I am getting the feeling that Walsh isn't coming back. Vecesy and Hahn have both made ominous reference to this in their own way. I don't know where this leaves the franchise but if Walsh is gone they need to get rid of D'Antoni and let the new administration bring in their own coach. I don't think D'Antoni is the guy and I don't think he lasts long without Walsh protecting and defending him.

Never pay attention to Vescey any more, that dude is shot, just bitterness these days. Hahn is more balanced IMHO.

I'm getting that feeling that D'Antoni and Walsh are gone this summer. Possibly more or less by their own choosing. Isola has been reporting non-stop that Walsh and D'Antoni didn't want the deal and that seems to be playing out on the court... so of course they'll be blamed for it not working.

edit: MDA cancelling practice twice in the last week... i mean... is it possible he's just mailing it in?

I tend to agree with you about Walsh and MDA on both subjects.

No way MDA wanted this trade to go down- you now have a team incapable of playing the kind of offensive ball he became famous for. He would take the Denver roster over ours in a split second, IMO- they actually play the way this Knicks team cannot play.

I think that Donnie and MDA have some differences about the kind of roster you need to win in the NBA, but I can't believe Walsh was in favor of giving up so many assets just for Anthony.

Gallo and Mosguv were his kids, and he had talked about trying to bring Wilson back. You also figure that he likes Felton, who had emerged as a leader on the team and always played hard-nosed ball for the Knicks. We gave up a lot of potential, length, and versatility in making this trade, and Felton gave us the quickness at the PG we had been lacking.

Terrible trade, IMO, and each game seems to validate this position.

As for the practice thing- coaches have to make a judgement in terms of keeping their team fresh. Hard for me, as a fan, to know the condition, both physical and mental, of the team. I think that the team leaders would have come to him about wanting a practice if that is what the team wanted.

nixluva wrote:These guys have another month to be here and I could care less what some of them think. If CB doesn't like Mike's ways, that's on him. He's supposed to be professional and make it work. I don't believe that the players after 16 games have any real right to get their feelings hurt, but this situation is a lot like last year when all those guys knew they weren't in the future plans of the Knicks. That's also probably why Mike doesn't bother to play some of them.

Why play guys that likely aren't fully invested in this team? As for CB, if he's catching an attitude that would change my opinion of him, cuz we need him to help this team win games, not try to coach the team. If he wants to see more D, he can direct the players on the floor and give advice in practice and on the court, like he did to TD. Still I don't believe that CB has a problem with Mike.

The biggest problem lately has been CB's inability to run the team offensively. It hasn't really been the defense that much lately, but low scoring qtrs that are not typical for this team. All of a sudden we can't score over 100 pts when we've been a bigtime offensive team. Just look at the number of TO's that CB has been committing lately. Is that Mike's fault? How about the bad shots he's been taking and not running the offense at all? Mike hasn't said anything negative about that, so why should CB take an attitude? Plus I don't believe it, cuz CB just said that he hoped to stay here in NY for a while.

crzymdups wrote:

TMS wrote:

here's a snippet:

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=smith_stephen&id=6246952

After their loss to the Celtics, Billups, Stoudemire, Anthony, Jeffries and others were experts in evasive measures. "We sense the momentum -- we're not stupid," one Knick told me. "We can feel the heat coming in [D'Antoni's] direction. We're staying clear of that mess."

Publicly, that is!

Privately, the Knicks question whether they should just run up and down the floor jacking up shots. They've wondered somewhat aloud whether the game should be slowed to let Stoudemire and Anthony operate in a more structured offense. Defensively, they're offended by the notion of that word and their team being mentioned in the same breath. They don't like being laughed at. And tension is elevating because of it.

Down the hall, away from players, reporters are whispering about hearing assistant coaches worry that Anthony is going to get them fired. Anthony's mood and demeanor say he wouldn't mind that at all. Nobody's taking Stoudemire's compliments seriously because D'Antoni is connected to that $100 million check he's cashing.

"It's bad over there," one Celtic, who's tight with several of the Knicks, told me after the game. "Right or wrong, they're not feeling [D'Antoni]. They just ain't."

Thanks for posting that - had not seen it.

I wonder if Chauncey's atrocious play is actually a sort of protest against MDA?

Knicksfan wrote:Wait, so if we win is only because of D'Antoni but if we lose, its all the players? Really?

So if we lose D'Antoni then we might as well trade everybody, sell the team and move on to baseball? So we are even showing up because of D'Antoni and we can't expect any kind of success without him?

Come on, this team right now is better suited for another coach. Still, I think things can work out with D'Antoni if he demands more defense and surrenders his belief that a traditional center and lineup isn't needed to win. But to say we would be a lowly team without him is incorrect.

Nothing is only because of D'Antoni. All I said was changing coaches twice a season is not going to fix the problems with this team.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I wonder if Chauncey's atrocious play is actually a sort of protest against MDA?

I was wondering the same thing.

I thought I read it all... until the above.