crzymdups wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:Mike would play a real C who has game.

Would he play a guy like Perkins more than 15 MPG? I really wonder, and that's what scares me.

I think it's really overblown that he won't play a GOOD C if he had one. The guys we have aren't getting it done, what do you want him to do? We haven't really had a guy that stepped in and said this job is mine and i'm gonna play balls to the wall and force him to play me. That kind of C is gonna play. You think if a guy is rebounding and defending, Mike won't play him major minutes???? COME ON! Who do we have that does that that we haven't been playing?

You didn't answer the question because you have no idea either.

NO I DID ANSWER, but you were too dense to understand it.

"You think if a guy is rebounding and defending, Mike won't play him major minutes???? COME ON! Who do we have that does that that we haven't been playing?"

Perkins does the things we lack, so YES Mike would play him.

Sheldon Williams does those things and he never plays. But I forgive Mike D'Antoni because Shelden Williams' head sometimes gets in the way of passes on the offensive end and leads to turnovers. It's a problem. I definitely think if we had Kendrick Perkins he would be playing many minutes for us. D'Antoni wants defenders. He just don't have any right now. He will get some this summer.

Shelden Williams started today and dug this team in a big hole. He sucks. He's been passed around the league like a hot potato of suckery.

Sheldon isn't starting caliber, but to blame him for our terrible first quarter is a huge stretch. And for all the players we have, he would bring some defense and rebounding to a team that lacks it immensely. But while we continue with the "excuse D'Antoni, he is great but has no talent" fest, why doesn't anybody talk about how, after not using him for many games, he all of a sudden starts him, only to give up on him for good because we had trouble scoring. We had 9 points in the first 12 minutes, Sheldon only played in 5. You think that was any fair chance for him to help the team?

And what the heck with D'Antoni's indecision, surprisingly starting him, giving up on him quickly for trouble on offense that wasn't his, and never going back to him when things settled and we were coming back. D'Antoni has no clue what to do with this team.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:Mike would play a real C who has game.

Would he play a guy like Perkins more than 15 MPG? I really wonder, and that's what scares me.

I think it's really overblown that he won't play a GOOD C if he had one. The guys we have aren't getting it done, what do you want him to do? We haven't really had a guy that stepped in and said this job is mine and i'm gonna play balls to the wall and force him to play me. That kind of C is gonna play. You think if a guy is rebounding and defending, Mike won't play him major minutes???? COME ON! Who do we have that does that that we haven't been playing?

You didn't answer the question because you have no idea either.

NO I DID ANSWER, but you were too dense to understand it.

"You think if a guy is rebounding and defending, Mike won't play him major minutes???? COME ON! Who do we have that does that that we haven't been playing?"

Perkins does the things we lack, so YES Mike would play him.

Sheldon Williams does those things and he never plays. But I forgive Mike D'Antoni because Shelden Williams' head sometimes gets in the way of passes on the offensive end and leads to turnovers. It's a problem. I definitely think if we had Kendrick Perkins he would be playing many minutes for us. D'Antoni wants defenders. He just don't have any right now. He will get some this summer.

Perkins if not for Rivers and Thibs would be riding the bench somewhere. Rivers and Thibs taught him great post defense. I think if Perkins came under D'antoni as a rookie that he would be out the league. Lets be realistic here..D'antoni favors offensive skill over defensive skills..very obvious and to disagree is being blind.

FoeDiddy wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:Mike would play a real C who has game.

Would he play a guy like Perkins more than 15 MPG? I really wonder, and that's what scares me.

I think it's really overblown that he won't play a GOOD C if he had one. The guys we have aren't getting it done, what do you want him to do? We haven't really had a guy that stepped in and said this job is mine and i'm gonna play balls to the wall and force him to play me. That kind of C is gonna play. You think if a guy is rebounding and defending, Mike won't play him major minutes???? COME ON! Who do we have that does that that we haven't been playing?

You didn't answer the question because you have no idea either.

NO I DID ANSWER, but you were too dense to understand it.

"You think if a guy is rebounding and defending, Mike won't play him major minutes???? COME ON! Who do we have that does that that we haven't been playing?"

Perkins does the things we lack, so YES Mike would play him.

Sheldon Williams does those things and he never plays. But I forgive Mike D'Antoni because Shelden Williams' head sometimes gets in the way of passes on the offensive end and leads to turnovers. It's a problem. I definitely think if we had Kendrick Perkins he would be playing many minutes for us. D'Antoni wants defenders. He just don't have any right now. He will get some this summer.

Perkins if not for Rivers and Thibs would be riding the bench somewhere. Rivers and Thibs taught him great post defense. I think if Perkins came under D'antoni as a rookie that he would be out the league. Lets be realistic here..D'antoni favors offensive skill over defensive skills..very obvious and to disagree is being blind.

TMS wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Sheldon isn't starting caliber, but to blame him for our terrible first quarter is a huge stretch. And for all the players we have, he would bring some defense and rebounding to a team that lacks it immensely. But while we continue with the "excuse D'Antoni, he is great but has no talent" fest, why doesn't anybody talk about how, after not using him for many games, he all of a sudden starts him, only to give up on him for good because we had trouble scoring. We had 9 points in the first 12 minutes, Sheldon only played in 5. You think that was any fair chance for him to help the team?

And what the heck with D'Antoni's indecision, surprisingly starting him, giving up on him quickly for trouble on offense that wasn't his, and never going back to him when things settled and we were coming back. D'Antoni has no clue what to do with this team.

D'Antoni should go there and never come back.

nixluva wrote:Mike was starting Mosgov and he's not as good as Perkins.

Juice wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

Juice wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:13 more games to figure this sht out

Keep borrowing time until no games are left is the motto at the moment....

The sand in the hour glass hasn't emptied to the other side yet

This reminds me of the previous coach's last days here

I'm not trying to be sanguine, just stating the fact. 13 games is not a lot of time.

However, even the biggest pessimist knows 0-6 against below .500 talent is not the best this team is capable of.

Even the biggest Optimist knows we're not too much better than we were pre-trade(AT THE TIME THE TRADE WAS MADE)

I was never looking at 0-6 or whatever it is...

I look at the fact we have no answers for

Smardos
Eyengas
Delfinos
Luc Richards
Tony Allens
Wilcoxs(Young Stoundemire)
Hansbroughs
Marions
Jamisons
Nelsons
Jones

Yeah it's awful. The team is playing very uninspired. If this is the best they can do we're fukked, obviously.

As far as win and losses go, again, we were down-sloping as it was. While Amare is still putting up admirable stats, it's been a few months since he was playing legit MVP caliber ball. And Felton was looking like Tony Douglas (lots of shooting, not a lot of orchestrating.) We were really only good when both Amare and Felton were playing over their heads at the same time. It was good for 13-1, but not much beyond that stretch. So it's not like I'd have felt any more more confident going into this years playoffs with the old team.

But clearly we gave up way too many pieces just to tread water and be as good as we were. This level of play is depressing for all of us.

BlueSeats wrote:

Juice wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

Juice wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:13 more games to figure this sht out

Keep borrowing time until no games are left is the motto at the moment....

The sand in the hour glass hasn't emptied to the other side yet

This reminds me of the previous coach's last days here

I'm not trying to be sanguine, just stating the fact. 13 games is not a lot of time.

However, even the biggest pessimist knows 0-6 against below .500 talent is not the best this team is capable of.

Even the biggest Optimist knows we're not too much better than we were pre-trade(AT THE TIME THE TRADE WAS MADE)

I was never looking at 0-6 or whatever it is...

I look at the fact we have no answers for

Smardos
Eyengas
Delfinos
Luc Richards
Tony Allens
Wilcoxs(Young Stoundemire)
Hansbroughs
Marions
Jamisons
Nelsons
Jones

Yeah it's awful. The team is playing very uninspired. If this is the best they can do we're fukked, obviously.

As far as win and losses go, again, we were down-sloping as it was. While Amare is still putting up admirable stats, it's been a few months since he was playing legit MVP caliber ball. And Felton was looking like Tony Douglas (lots of shooting, not a lot of orchestrating.) We were really only good when both Amare and Felton were playing over their heads at the same time. It was good for 13-1, but not much beyond that stretch. So it's not like I'd have felt any more more confident going into this years playoffs with the old team.

But clearly we gave up way too many pieces just to tread water and be as good as we were. This level of play is depressing for all of us.

the way this team has played the lesser teams has been very disappointing, i'm totally with you on that, but we've played the better teams tough... i have no idea why this team continues to play down to the level of their competition... i think that's been a problem all year even before the Melo trade went down... seems to be more than a talent or even a team chemistry issue to me.

BlueSeats wrote:

nixluva wrote:Mike would play a real C who has game.

Would he play a guy like Perkins more than 15 MPG? I really wonder, and that's what scares me.

small sample, but he played Moz about 25 MPG before trade.

8 games. Very small sample.

AnubisADL wrote:We need a big body in the middle and a replacement for Douglas.

Douglas? Really? I thought he has actually been playing well since the all-star break. Certainly not 100% efficient, but considering this is his second year, not bad IMHO.

TMS wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

Juice wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:

Juice wrote:

BlueSeats wrote:13 more games to figure this sht out

Keep borrowing time until no games are left is the motto at the moment....

The sand in the hour glass hasn't emptied to the other side yet

This reminds me of the previous coach's last days here

I'm not trying to be sanguine, just stating the fact. 13 games is not a lot of time.

However, even the biggest pessimist knows 0-6 against below .500 talent is not the best this team is capable of.

Even the biggest Optimist knows we're not too much better than we were pre-trade(AT THE TIME THE TRADE WAS MADE)

I was never looking at 0-6 or whatever it is...

I look at the fact we have no answers for

Smardos
Eyengas
Delfinos
Luc Richards
Tony Allens
Wilcoxs(Young Stoundemire)
Hansbroughs
Marions
Jamisons
Nelsons
Jones

Yeah it's awful. The team is playing very uninspired. If this is the best they can do we're fukked, obviously.

As far as win and losses go, again, we were down-sloping as it was. While Amare is still putting up admirable stats, it's been a few months since he was playing legit MVP caliber ball. And Felton was looking like Tony Douglas (lots of shooting, not a lot of orchestrating.) We were really only good when both Amare and Felton were playing over their heads at the same time. It was good for 13-1, but not much beyond that stretch. So it's not like I'd have felt any more more confident going into this years playoffs with the old team.

But clearly we gave up way too many pieces just to tread water and be as good as we were. This level of play is depressing for all of us.

the way this team has played the lesser teams has been very disappointing, i'm totally with you on that, but we've played the better teams tough... i have no idea why this team continues to play down to the level of their competition... i think that's been a problem all year even before the Melo trade went down... seems to be more than a talent or even a team chemistry issue to me.

I think the problem is the fact we weren't that good to begin with and we aren't that good now. What I mean begin with, I'm talking team walking into camp at season's beginning. I said this team would win between 37-42games. Best case was 45-48gms

What makes me angry WE HAVE SEEN THE BEST OF MELO AND AMAR'E. They will not get better as players only with one exception unless they become defensive stalwarts or improve immensely on this side of the ball. We're hoping they don't decline fast. Meanwhile WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CEILING OF GALLO/CHANDLER/AR/MOZ WERE... plus adding 4 picks in the trade 2 1rst 1 of them right for swap and 2 2nd rounders was mind numbing.

Also if we don't start playing well soon and I'm talking about playing well to the point we show some togetherness regardless of results no player of note/impact will want to come here. The MEDIA still runs the show. Until this changes then we'll truly know the culture has changed.

As far as the coach is concerned he hasn't managed to get the roster to over achieve or play at peak any of his yrs here. That's a problem regardless of roster turnover. He gets paid $6mil/yr to be a difference maker not some run of the mill mistro.