loweyecue wrote:Let the no defense and fire the coach threads begin. Oh and the Anthony Randolph thread should be revived, in fact I am pretty sure there's a half dozen threads on Jordan Hill that should be googled as well.

Good take. Seems after each game we don't win its perceived that since we have two super duper stars all failure must be assigned and its the coach.

Mavs have a great record. They are a good team. We didn't lose we got BEATEN.

How can that be? THEY ARE BIGGER! There tall guys can grab rebounds over our non tall guys.

They have a deeper bench. They pass the ball around. They outplayed us.

You can't react after each loss and change the team. This is not Xbox.

We are depleted after a big trade. It happens.

Lower the expectations and enjoy what happens.

Nalod wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Let the no defense and fire the coach threads begin. Oh and the Anthony Randolph thread should be revived, in fact I am pretty sure there's a half dozen threads on Jordan Hill that should be googled as well.

Good take. Seems after each game we don't win its perceived that since we have two super duper stars all failure must be assigned and its the coach.

Mavs have a great record. They are a good team. We didn't lose we got BEATEN.

How can that be? THEY ARE BIGGER! There tall guys can grab rebounds over our non tall guys.

They have a deeper bench. They pass the ball around. They outplayed us.

You can't react after each loss and change the team. This is not Xbox.

We are depleted after a big trade. It happens.

Lower the expectations and enjoy what happens.

Yup Yup

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:The overreaction from Knick fans is comical. The Mavs are one of the best teams in the league and we're still trying to develop our team chemistry and get healthy. This team is still going to be a threat in the playoffs. There won't be any Back to backs in the playoffs and we should hopefully be at full strength and with better chemistry by then. Lets keep things in perspective. The team has been playing better lately, but it's still a work in progress.

I'm more concerned about the wear and tear on STAT. This has been a grinding season and he's getting beat up.

I can live with a loss but I cannot live with a lack of effort. The game looked over in the first quarter. This is inexcusable. That's why everyone is up in arms

I wish MDA would recognize that the guys were tired and we were getting killed on the boards. I would have liked to have seen Sheldon Williams and maybe Derrick Brown in there for 10 to 15 min each. They would have brought lots of energy which was sorely needed.

Juice wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:The overreaction from Knick fans is comical. The Mavs are one of the best teams in the league and we're still trying to develop our team chemistry and get healthy. This team is still going to be a threat in the playoffs. There won't be any Back to backs in the playoffs and we should hopefully be at full strength and with better chemistry by then. Lets keep things in perspective. The team has been playing better lately, but it's still a work in progress.

I'm more concerned about the wear and tear on STAT. This has been a grinding season and he's getting beat up.

I can live with a loss but I cannot live with a lack of effort. The game looked over in the first quarter. This is inexcusable. That's why everyone is up in arms

Nixluva's pollyan is very potent and will never go away meanwhile the Hornets beat the Mavs the previous night without CP3 I guess the Mavs weren't one of the best teams in the league when they played them(rolling eyes)

Knicksfan wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Let the no defense and fire the coach threads begin. Oh and the Anthony Randolph thread should be revived, in fact I am pretty sure there's a half dozen threads on Jordan Hill that should be googled as well.

Help me out because Im really confused. I give no heck about the trade and Randolph, but don't games like this make you really hate the coach? When you see the boxscore, you don't necessarily see a bad night for NY. Only Shawne helped from the bench, but we still got 109 as a team.

Then you see how the other team torched NY, how they out rebounded us by 10 and then you find out most of the last minutes of the game, after cutting the lead to 11, were spent on missing 3s while allowing Dallas turn it again into a laugher really make you hate this.

COME ON!!! THIS IS SURREAL! NO FRIGGIN INTENTION OD PLAYING D! And the only big man we can bring to help is Jeffries?

Should I jump of joy because we have D'Antoni when games like this make you be extremely afraid of the playoffs, where D is more important?

This wasn't a game we battled and just lost to a better team, this was practically quitting, not giving up a damn about it. I hope you understand me here, its not that they lost, its that they never really tried.

When you have players who forgot to show up and are acting like zombies on trhe floor, no amount of coaching is going to get them to beat one of the best teams in the NBA. What big man was supposed to be in the game? Shelden Williams? Do you really beleieve the result would be different? You talk about Kool-aid? You are not doing too badly with the Hatorade yourself when it comes to the coach.

Yes they never really tried so what was MDA supposed to do put on a mini skirt, grab some pompoms and break out into a cheerleader routine? These are paid professionals this isn't college ball. And no MDA isn't supposed to "teach" rebounding, any more than my boss is supposed to teach me how to read emails.

But wahtever, same tired arguments, and I am just bitter these days. I should stop posting.

nixluva wrote:This is the most competitive team we've had in years and it's not enough for some fans. We actually were able to do the near impossible and in one season we've added 2 All Stars and a finals MVP to the roster. This team has a chance to actually get out of the 1st rd. So it's not a perfect team yet. Given all we had to do to get to this point it's somewhat understandable that we still have to address some needs. How about one step at a time tho? You do what you've gotta do to get the Elite talent every team needs to seriously build a contender. We have that now and can look forward to some very compelling seasons ahead.

FoeDiddy wrote:

Juice wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nixluva wrote:The overreaction from Knick fans is comical. The Mavs are one of the best teams in the league and we're still trying to develop our team chemistry and get healthy. This team is still going to be a threat in the playoffs. There won't be any Back to backs in the playoffs and we should hopefully be at full strength and with better chemistry by then. Lets keep things in perspective. The team has been playing better lately, but it's still a work in progress.

I'm more concerned about the wear and tear on STAT. This has been a grinding season and he's getting beat up.

I can live with a loss but I cannot live with a lack of effort. The game looked over in the first quarter. This is inexcusable. That's why everyone is up in arms

Nixluva's pollyan is very potent and will never go away meanwhile the Hornets beat the Mavs the previous night without CP3 I guess the Mavs weren't one of the best teams in the league when they played them(rolling eyes)

And the Knicks Smacked up and embarrassed the Hornets with CP3. It's the NBA..Any Given Night.

You're only proving my point....NOH didn't show up when they played us. When teams don't show up they lose. This is the point. It's not about a team being the best in the league. It's about effort....

So what were you getting at again?

Childs2Dudley wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:Let me re-add this for the whole "we were tired" excuse: Mavericks were also playing their 4th game in 5 nights.

I don't think it's just some physical fatigue, but also a mental fatigue. They were flat when the game started and didn't match the intensity of the Mavs, who were spoiling for a chance to prove their coach wrong. We were ice cold to start the game and eventually they got things going on both ends and got back into the game. Still the Mavs are not only better, but they're deeper too, so it's real hard to come back against them. I won't say that it was just one thing, but a combination.

Still what's more important than overreacting to this one bad game is how they play in the next 5 games stretch, which has many winnable games. They need to get back to playing hard on D and get some wins in this stretch. Hopefully the extra day off will help them get some energy back and maybe we get healthy and get Billups back too.

I am not overreacting to one bad game. I am reacting to a career of a head coach who has not changed one iota since he's been here. He could be stressing defense but his defensive philosophy and execution suck.

The team had just won 3 games and had shown improvement on the defensive end. It's not perfect, but they have been playing a bit better. The Mavs game was the only one that they really stunk on D the entire 1st half. I'm more interested to see how they snap back from that. If they go on to again play D and win games, then it's just a blip on the screen.