crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

That will be a hell of a July 4th weekend. Followed 9 months by a mini-baby boom of NYC children named LeBron.

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

Who said it? Someone on the Rockets staff I bet while trying to keep a straight face. Everybody else in the league too busy shaking their heads in disgust.

Pharzeone wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

Who said it? Someone on the Rockets staff I bet while trying to keep a straight face. Everybody else in the league too busy shaking their heads in disgust.

i understand we are a jaded fanbase, but don't you think that donnie has some sort of plan? i know you weren't thrilled with his hire, but you have to admit he did a pretty solid job with the pacers all those years. i know they never won a championship, but they were a pretty good team... the man isn't stupid, i have to think he knows something that could happen this summer, no?i

i mean on the surface this trade looks pretty stupid, but if donnie is pretty certain of us netting a few top-notch players then this is something he has to do? i would just have to think this is the case..

nyk4ever wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

Who said it? Someone on the Rockets staff I bet while trying to keep a straight face. Everybody else in the league too busy shaking their heads in disgust.

i understand we are a jaded fanbase, but don't you think that donnie has some sort of plan? i know you weren't thrilled with his hire, but you have to admit he did a pretty solid job with the pacers all those years. i know they never won a championship, but they were a pretty good team... the man isn't stupid, i have to think he knows something that could happen this summer, no?i

i mean on the surface this trade looks pretty stupid, but if donnie is pretty certain of us netting a few top-notch players then this is something he has to do? i would just have to think this is the case..

Dude, I don't want to get into again but I read too much where Donnie is portrayed as a figurehead in Indiana since the early 90s. Brown is the first to tell you how it was him who put together that 90s squad. I already ran through Isiah's fingerprint on that roster in the early 2000s. According to Donnie he was in semi-retirement mode. I mean you still have people in Indiana scratching their heads about how he left that organization. Regardless, I could care less about what someone does elsewhere. I'm more concern about what they currently doing. And this pretty much smells of hoping that the best situation works out before I take my leave. Nothing seems plans whether that means bringing in Hughes last season, draft Hill when you need a point. This all seems to be about gut feeling and hope.

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

I am not sure Bron would leave Cleveland without Amare, if the Cavs add Amare there is no way that he leaves in my opinion. I don't think Wade is leaving. Miami has a great climate, night life and no state income tax. I think Bosh goes to Miami. Just wondering, I think the taxes are quite a bit harsher in Canada on NBA players but I don't remember hearing about this for awhile, are they higher?

lebron james wants to be a global icon. that will not happen in cleveland because it is cleveland. both lebron and wade know the history of the game - the '73 knicks are far more legendary than the '06 heat because the '73 knicks played in new york city at madison square garden. it's been a long, horrible ride for this franchise, but it is still one of the glamour franchises in this league. whoever brings it back to glory will be immortal in this city - which happens to be the most important city in the world (sorry, but it's true - why do you think everyone loves to hate it?). if you don't think bron and wade know this, i don't think you are giving them enough credit.

i think we will get one of them this summer, if not both. wade doesn't seem too pleased in miami. lebron keeps saying he is going to "test the waters" in free agency - even if they get amar'e.

taxes won't matter at all if they come to new york and set the world on fire. they will be the biggest names in all of sports. they know this. one of them is coming. and donnie is doing the work to ensure the ability to allow both of them to come. or bosh. and people are complaining about this? really?

However, even with that being said- the Rockets aren't exactly holding the kind of leverage to yield the kind of package that is being bandied about from the Knicks here. Basically if they dont make any kind of move, McGrady doesn't play, they don't get another useful piece for their playoff run, McGrady walks, and Houston still doesn't have the capspace to land a max guy. So its not like they are playing with a lot of cards here. If they can get one or two useful, non-long term dollar pieces for McGrady to help their playoff run that is all they can ask for at this point. If they get a pick or at least one youngster out of it, they came out like bandits. To get Jordan Hill, a pick, a swap of picks and 2 pieces to potentially help their playoff run is a coup.

Pharzeone wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

Who said it? Someone on the Rockets staff I bet while trying to keep a straight face. Everybody else in the league too busy shaking their heads in disgust.

i understand we are a jaded fanbase, but don't you think that donnie has some sort of plan? i know you weren't thrilled with his hire, but you have to admit he did a pretty solid job with the pacers all those years. i know they never won a championship, but they were a pretty good team... the man isn't stupid, i have to think he knows something that could happen this summer, no?i

i mean on the surface this trade looks pretty stupid, but if donnie is pretty certain of us netting a few top-notch players then this is something he has to do? i would just have to think this is the case..

Dude, I don't want to get into again but I read too much where Donnie is portrayed as a figurehead in Indiana since the early 90s. Brown is the first to tell you how it was him who put together that 90s squad. I already ran through Isiah's fingerprint on that roster in the early 2000s. According to Donnie he was in semi-retirement mode. I mean you still have people in Indiana scratching their heads about how he left that organization. Regardless, I could care less about what someone does elsewhere. I'm more concern about what they currently doing. And this pretty much smells of hoping that the best situation works out before I take my leave. Nothing seems plans whether that means bringing in Hughes last season, draft Hill when you need a point. This all seems to be about gut feeling and hope.

well i can't argue with you on that. im going to put my trust in donnie.. all we can do dude. no matter how you slice it.

crzymdups wrote:

TMS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if WHEN we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

unless you're 100% positive that this is going to happen then it's a dumb trade any way you wanna look at it.

any way you want to look at it? what if the way i want to look at it is that lebron james and dwyane wade are free agents in four months and if this trade goes through we have enough money to sign them both?

that doesn't seem remotely dumb to me. it seems pretty darn smart.

it's dumb w/o a guarantee... if those guys don't sign here then you're royally ****ed for the next decade & i'm not even exaggerating... we've already seen how trades like this have ****ed out franchise in past dealings & u want to keep repeating these types of moves... unfreakinreal.

VDesai wrote:Granted- if this guarantees Lebron and another max here, obviously it has to be done. Only those way in the know can determine that.

However, even with that being said- the Rockets aren't exactly holding the kind of leverage to yield the kind of package that is being bandied about from the Knicks here. Basically if they dont make any kind of move, McGrady doesn't play, they don't get another useful piece for their playoff run, McGrady walks, and Houston still doesn't have the capspace to land a max guy. So its not like they are playing with a lot of cards here. If they can get one or two useful, non-long term dollar pieces for McGrady to help their playoff run that is all they can ask for at this point. If they get a pick or at least one youngster out of it, they came out like bandits. To get Jordan Hill, a pick, a swap of picks and 2 pieces to potentially help their playoff run is a coup.

excellent post des, you are 100% right about the rockets making out in the trade. it does seem excessive for sure and im pretty sure donnie bargaining against himself.

it's funny, while i'm against the logistics of the trade (it seems like an awful lot to give up for a guy the team doesn't want) i'm still fine with the outcome if it brings us 2 worth max FA - we shouldn't have to give all that up though.

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

I am not sure Bron would leave Cleveland without Amare, if the Cavs add Amare there is no way that he leaves in my opinion. I don't think Wade is leaving. Miami has a great climate, night life and no state income tax. I think Bosh goes to Miami. Just wondering, I think the taxes are quite a bit harsher in Canada on NBA players but I don't remember hearing about this for awhile, are they higher?

lebron james wants to be a global icon. that will not happen in cleveland because it is cleveland. both lebron and wade know the history of the game - the '73 knicks are far more legendary than the '06 heat because the '73 knicks played in new york city at madison square garden. it's been a long, horrible ride for this franchise, but it is still one of the glamour franchises in this league. whoever brings it back to glory will be immortal in this city - which happens to be the most important city in the world (sorry, but it's true - why do you think everyone loves to hate it?). if you don't think bron and wade know this, i don't think you are giving them enough credit.

i think we will get one of them this summer, if not both. wade doesn't seem too pleased in miami. lebron keeps saying he is going to "test the waters" in free agency - even if they get amar'e.

taxes won't matter at all if they come to new york and set the world on fire. they will be the biggest names in all of sports. they know this. one of them is coming. and donnie is doing the work to ensure the ability to allow both of them to come. or bosh. and people are complaining about this? really?

nyk4ever wrote:

VDesai wrote:Granted- if this guarantees Lebron and another max here, obviously it has to be done. Only those way in the know can determine that.

However, even with that being said- the Rockets aren't exactly holding the kind of leverage to yield the kind of package that is being bandied about from the Knicks here. Basically if they dont make any kind of move, McGrady doesn't play, they don't get another useful piece for their playoff run, McGrady walks, and Houston still doesn't have the capspace to land a max guy. So its not like they are playing with a lot of cards here. If they can get one or two useful, non-long term dollar pieces for McGrady to help their playoff run that is all they can ask for at this point. If they get a pick or at least one youngster out of it, they came out like bandits. To get Jordan Hill, a pick, a swap of picks and 2 pieces to potentially help their playoff run is a coup.

excellent post des, you are 100% right about the rockets making out in the trade. it does seem excessive for sure and im pretty sure donnie bargaining against himself.

it's funny, while i'm against the logistics of the trade (it seems like an awful lot to give up for a guy the team doesn't want) i'm still fine with the outcome if it brings us 2 worth max FA - we shouldn't have to give all that up though.

so it's an excellent post when DES makes these points, but not when i make them... thanks a lot douchebag