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[Game Thread] Reggie's spirit hangs in the rafters, bench Duhon 2nd win is what we're afters.
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11/18/2009  11:58 PM
Wow. I gave up a minute into the 4th and went to the bar. Then I hear on the radio that these fools actually came back and won. WOW. Curry definitely helps get the other team in foul trouble. If he can hold down the turnovers, he will help us win a few games.
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11/19/2009  12:03 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
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Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:to me, it was still an awful game. zero minutes for Douglas, Hill and Gallo in second half. Maybe Gallo had minutes, but it was like 2.

Knicks won, but I have not idea what MDA is doing out there.

MDA is trying to win a ball game. Thats it. Coaches coach to win each game...Fans root to tank and play rookies...

i am not rooting to tank and play rookies. But to give zero minutes to those guys in the second half is strange. It's not like Harrington, Lee, Duhon, JJ were having good games.

Didn't Harrington basically take over the game and put the team on his back down the stretch?

no. hughes played out of his mind to keep them in it the whole game, curry kept them in it, duhon tried to lose it and then al hit some shots in the 4th quarter. granger having 5 fouls for most of the 4th and being on the bench dried up the pacers offense, too. have to credit wilson and curry for being aggressive and getting granger in foul trouble.

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11/19/2009  12:42 AM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:to me, it was still an awful game. zero minutes for Douglas, Hill and Gallo in second half. Maybe Gallo had minutes, but it was like 2.

Knicks won, but I have not idea what MDA is doing out there.

MDA is trying to win a ball game. Thats it. Coaches coach to win each game...Fans root to tank and play rookies...

i am not rooting to tank and play rookies. But to give zero minutes to those guys in the second half is strange. It's not like Harrington, Lee, Duhon, JJ were having good games.

Didn't Harrington basically take over the game and put the team on his back down the stretch?

Harrington did score a lot. But lets be realistic, it's more luck than anything that the Knicks won the game on the back of Harrington. Harrington still takes bad shots and makes the worse decisions ever. His shots just happen to go in is all, and it will happen for him once every 5-6 games, just like Crawford. More than likely they shoot you OUT of a game.

Did the Knicks win or did Indiana just have colossal collapse? I lean towards the later.

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11/19/2009  1:09 AM
gee...first regular season gt i start, 1-0. had one in preseason, 1-0. 2-0 total. gee.
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11/19/2009  1:10 AM
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djsunyc wrote:knicks won? holy crap - blow up the pacers...

how dumb are the pacers... Granger gets 30 in the first half and then disappears. It's like the whole Pacers team was taking notes on how the Knicks play and then executed it.

i missed the 2nd half cuz the atdhe feed cut out. Do we give no credit for the coaching holding Granger to 3 points?

you mean 33...


2nd half he put up only three points though. Was he just out of sync? Foul trouble? Double-teamed?

Knicks were overplaying him & keeping the ball out of his hands well... Duhon & Wilson switched well & always contested his shots on the perimeter in the 2nd half... Wilson ended up ended up fouling out, but him & Fishlips did a solid job chasing Granger around in the 2nd half... Granger couldn't get into the flow & got into foul trouble himself... the Pacers played real sloppy down the stretch & Granger ended up fouling out.

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11/19/2009  1:13 AM
i dunno why Duhon was left in the game & why Nate was given run over TD in the 2nd half when he looked slow & wasn't hitting any of his shots... Hughes was having a great game & orchestrating the offense well, i thought having TD's defense out there would have made much more sense down the stretch than playing Duhon or Nate...

anyways, they won so it's water under the bridge, but that was a headscratcher for me.

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11/19/2009  8:32 AM
Confusing game. Those who were playing well played like crap. Those who had been playing like crap played well. So, eh, when are they going to all play well at the same time? Or is that not possible.

Meanwhile, here is to GAME FLOW from yesterdays game. Hughes and Curry turned that game around. Al finished it. Mouse-over just about everything you see on that page to get more detailed info.

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11/19/2009  8:44 AM
Nate's airball really bummed me out. Harrington's shots were pretty terrible decisions but they went in.

Jeffries did a nice job on Granger in the second half.
Hughes made great decisions all day.
Curry looked great.

I'll take the win.

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11/19/2009  8:54 AM
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:to me, it was still an awful game. zero minutes for Douglas, Hill and Gallo in second half. Maybe Gallo had minutes, but it was like 2.

Knicks won, but I have not idea what MDA is doing out there.

MDA is trying to win a ball game. Thats it. Coaches coach to win each game...Fans root to tank and play rookies...

i am not rooting to tank and play rookies. But to give zero minutes to those guys in the second half is strange. It's not like Harrington, Lee, Duhon, JJ were having good games.

Didn't Harrington basically take over the game and put the team on his back down the stretch?

Harrington did score a lot. But lets be realistic, it's more luck than anything that the Knicks won the game on the back of Harrington. Harrington still takes bad shots and makes the worse decisions ever. His shots just happen to go in is all, and it will happen for him once every 5-6 games, just like Crawford. More than likely they shoot you OUT of a game.

Did the Knicks win or did Indiana just have colossal collapse? I lean towards the later.


Granger was a no-show in the 2nd half. Was that our doing or his? That's one big question.

Harrington's chucks went in so we won. Not much one can say there...

Gallo - I think his back still hurts him. It's not a good sign. He wasn't moving well at all out there. No problem seeing him sat down.

Nate is still rusty as can be.

Douglas not playing was the biggest surprise IMO.

Curry look terrific for a guy that hasn't played in 2 years. Let us hope he shakes off the rust (he had plenty) and plays his way into a trade that slashes more salary for us.

Very boring game until the 4th Q and even then it wasn't EXCITING really.

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11/19/2009  9:07 AM
Just me or did Duhon look like he had a pulse that game?
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11/19/2009  9:44 AM
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:to me, it was still an awful game. zero minutes for Douglas, Hill and Gallo in second half. Maybe Gallo had minutes, but it was like 2.

Knicks won, but I have not idea what MDA is doing out there.

MDA is trying to win a ball game. Thats it. Coaches coach to win each game...Fans root to tank and play rookies...

i am not rooting to tank and play rookies. But to give zero minutes to those guys in the second half is strange. It's not like Harrington, Lee, Duhon, JJ were having good games.

he only trusts the vets. that's why it makes sense to add iverson.

also, to be fair, toney was -17 in 12 minutes, jordan hill looked lost (and curry looked good) and gallo looks like his back stiffened up and he's not showing any aggressiveness with the ball. the kids have to earn it.

I agree with both of you. I dont have a problem with him pulling the young guys. In fact I think that is a positive moving forward, but only if they continue to start. If they start and start strong they are going to stay in the game. If not the minutes are going to go to guys like Hughes or JJ
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11/19/2009  12:51 PM
Cosmic wrote:
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:to me, it was still an awful game. zero minutes for Douglas, Hill and Gallo in second half. Maybe Gallo had minutes, but it was like 2.

Knicks won, but I have not idea what MDA is doing out there.

MDA is trying to win a ball game. Thats it. Coaches coach to win each game...Fans root to tank and play rookies...

i am not rooting to tank and play rookies. But to give zero minutes to those guys in the second half is strange. It's not like Harrington, Lee, Duhon, JJ were having good games.

Didn't Harrington basically take over the game and put the team on his back down the stretch?

Harrington did score a lot. But lets be realistic, it's more luck than anything that the Knicks won the game on the back of Harrington. Harrington still takes bad shots and makes the worse decisions ever. His shots just happen to go in is all, and it will happen for him once every 5-6 games, just like Crawford. More than likely they shoot you OUT of a game.

Did the Knicks win or did Indiana just have colossal collapse? I lean towards the later.


Granger was a no-show in the 2nd half. Was that our doing or his? That's one big question.

Harrington's chucks went in so we won. Not much one can say there...

Gallo - I think his back still hurts him. It's not a good sign. He wasn't moving well at all out there. No problem seeing him sat down.

Nate is still rusty as can be.

Douglas not playing was the biggest surprise IMO.

Curry look terrific for a guy that hasn't played in 2 years. Let us hope he shakes off the rust (he had plenty) and plays his way into a trade that slashes more salary for us.

Very boring game until the 4th Q and even then it wasn't EXCITING really.

It was misreported, just saw this on another site. MD said gallo's back was fine. he referred to both he and Tony douglas being stiff as in their play... Honestly, gallo looked uninterested in the game.. and how can you blame him? two guys usually on the floor with him ignore him.....

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11/19/2009  3:14 PM
tkf wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
martin wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
martin wrote:
Uptown wrote:
martin wrote:to me, it was still an awful game. zero minutes for Douglas, Hill and Gallo in second half. Maybe Gallo had minutes, but it was like 2.

Knicks won, but I have not idea what MDA is doing out there.

MDA is trying to win a ball game. Thats it. Coaches coach to win each game...Fans root to tank and play rookies...

i am not rooting to tank and play rookies. But to give zero minutes to those guys in the second half is strange. It's not like Harrington, Lee, Duhon, JJ were having good games.

Didn't Harrington basically take over the game and put the team on his back down the stretch?

Harrington did score a lot. But lets be realistic, it's more luck than anything that the Knicks won the game on the back of Harrington. Harrington still takes bad shots and makes the worse decisions ever. His shots just happen to go in is all, and it will happen for him once every 5-6 games, just like Crawford. More than likely they shoot you OUT of a game.

Did the Knicks win or did Indiana just have colossal collapse? I lean towards the later.


Granger was a no-show in the 2nd half. Was that our doing or his? That's one big question.

Harrington's chucks went in so we won. Not much one can say there...

Gallo - I think his back still hurts him. It's not a good sign. He wasn't moving well at all out there. No problem seeing him sat down.

Nate is still rusty as can be.

Douglas not playing was the biggest surprise IMO.

Curry look terrific for a guy that hasn't played in 2 years. Let us hope he shakes off the rust (he had plenty) and plays his way into a trade that slashes more salary for us.

Very boring game until the 4th Q and even then it wasn't EXCITING really.

It was misreported, just saw this on another site. MD said gallo's back was fine. he referred to both he and Tony douglas being stiff as in their play... Honestly, gallo looked uninterested in the game.. and how can you blame him? two guys usually on the floor with him ignore him.....

he gets double digit shot attempts--that is not a low #

If you take away the non-defending Warriors in the last 3 games he has played
He has averaged 6.1 points 4 rebounds .07 a shooting 29% in 24 minutes per

How about play harder Gallo move around on offense and get involved. Its not like he has been shooting great lately when he was guarded--he needs to get himself better shots as well be moving without the ball.

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11/19/2009  4:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:he gets double digit shot attempts--that is not a low #

If you take away the non-defending Warriors in the last 3 games he has played
He has averaged 6.1 points 4 rebounds .07 a shooting 29% in 24 minutes per

How about play harder Gallo move around on offense and get involved. Its not like he has been shooting great lately when he was guarded--he needs to get himself better shots as well be moving without the ball.

he def looked bad last night. hope he steps up. can't blame his teammates all the time.

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11/19/2009  4:49 PM
tkf wrote:
It was misreported, just saw this on another site. MD said gallo's back was fine. he referred to both he and Tony douglas being stiff as in their play... Honestly, gallo looked uninterested in the game.. and how can you blame him? two guys usually on the floor with him ignore him.....

Oh, I'm not talking about Mike's comments. I'm talking about what I saw. When Gallo didn't go after the loose ball that was a big indicator that his back is still stiff. All the "precautions" he takes on the sideline is a joke. If you don't have a problem you don't do those things. He shot stiff. He walked stiff. He "ran" stiff. He hesitated a lot because he was stiff.

Something isn't right still and that's a shame. Kid has skills. But the truth is he is still hurting. I know the walk he does. It's a bad back walk. You can't hide that. It is what it is....and last night, it WAS hurting him.

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11/19/2009  6:36 PM
Cosmic wrote:
tkf wrote:
It was misreported, just saw this on another site. MD said gallo's back was fine. he referred to both he and Tony douglas being stiff as in their play... Honestly, gallo looked uninterested in the game.. and how can you blame him? two guys usually on the floor with him ignore him.....

Oh, I'm not talking about Mike's comments. I'm talking about what I saw. When Gallo didn't go after the loose ball that was a big indicator that his back is still stiff. All the "precautions" he takes on the sideline is a joke. If you don't have a problem you don't do those things. He shot stiff. He walked stiff. He "ran" stiff. He hesitated a lot because he was stiff.

Something isn't right still and that's a shame. Kid has skills. But the truth is he is still hurting. I know the walk he does. It's a bad back walk. You can't hide that. It is what it is....and last night, it WAS hurting him.

It may have something to do with his bad back.

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11/19/2009  7:33 PM
Cosmic wrote:
tkf wrote:
It was misreported, just saw this on another site. MD said gallo's back was fine. he referred to both he and Tony douglas being stiff as in their play... Honestly, gallo looked uninterested in the game.. and how can you blame him? two guys usually on the floor with him ignore him.....

Oh, I'm not talking about Mike's comments. I'm talking about what I saw. When Gallo didn't go after the loose ball that was a big indicator that his back is still stiff. All the "precautions" he takes on the sideline is a joke. If you don't have a problem you don't do those things. He shot stiff. He walked stiff. He "ran" stiff. He hesitated a lot because he was stiff.

Something isn't right still and that's a shame. Kid has skills. But the truth is he is still hurting. I know the walk he does. It's a bad back walk. You can't hide that. It is what it is....and last night, it WAS hurting him.

Yeah, when he did not dive for the ball, I was a little surprised. He seems like the type that would have made more of an effort. If his back is hurting, they should let him rest. He just had surgery a few months ago. He probably is not fully healed. Why push it? I feel bad for him because he has the worst medical staff in the league trying to keep him healthy.

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