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JrZyHuStLa
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10/28/2009  10:51 PM
Finestrg wrote:Here's the difference between Gallo and Hill --- Hill showed me last year at Arizona that he has a complete big man's game. You'll never here me say Jordan Hill's "raw." That's the last word I'd ever use to describe this guy...6'10", quick, rebounder, post player, solid mid-range game. All you Hill haters can say whatever you want - this guy has COMPLETE game type skills for a young big man. All he needs to do is development it and fine tune it at this level now.

All Gallo does, on the other hand, is shoot 3s. That's it. If he does something else that I'm missing please let me know... severly limited rebound potential, he doesn't go to the hole, and despite the rave reviews about his defense, he ain't defending anyone in the NBA - smaller guys, guys his size...Nobody..

Between Hill and Gallo, I'm much more worried about Gallinari right now.

He shot above 50% beyond the arc and you're mad ?
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10/28/2009  10:53 PM
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Finestrg wrote:Gallo had 22 pts. on 7-14 from the field, 7-13 from 3. That's just not good basketball. That's Jason Kapono/Steve Novak stuff. I hated the way he played tonight -- Yeah he had 22 pts., but anyone that thought he played well tonight, think again...This guy's just not playing with any versatility to him at all. I defended this guy up the ying-yang but I honestly don't know if I can do it anymore.

Dude that's over 50%, very efficient. Gallo had a very good game tonight.

Fool's gold. You know how easy it will be for teams to take that away from him eventually. What's he gonna go then -- give up the ball , that's what...Kelly saying the same thing I've been saying on the post game right now...
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10/28/2009  10:56 PM
'When teams take it away from him eventually'...that's easier said than done. Gallo has done a very good job of learning how to draw contact and go to the line. He's going to get a LOT of FTAs this year.
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10/28/2009  10:57 PM
Finestrg wrote:
masud wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Gallo had 22 pts. on 7-14 from the field, 7-13 from 3. That's just not good basketball. That's Jason Kapono/Steve Novak stuff. I hated the way he played tonight -- Yeah he had 22 pts., but anyone that thought he played well tonight, think again...This guy's just not playing with any versatility to him at all. I defended this guy up the ying-yang but I honestly don't know if I can do it anymore.

Dude that's over 50%, very efficient. Gallo had a very good game tonight.

Fool's gold. You know how easy it will be for teams to take that away from him eventually. What's he gonna go then -- give up the ball , that's what...Kelly saying the same thing I've been saying on the post game right now...

When they start trying to take the 3 away from Gallo, watch him take it to the basket.
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10/28/2009  10:57 PM
JamaicanJetFan wrote:'When teams take it away from him eventually'...that's easier said than done. Gallo has done a very good job of learning how to draw contact and go to the line. He's going to get a LOT of FTAs this year.

Absolutely.
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10/28/2009  10:59 PM
all i know is is that Al Harrington is the worst "Leader" I have seen. Faux leader. Actually does damage to his team trying to be a leader.
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10/28/2009  11:00 PM
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10/28/2009  11:01 PM
martin wrote:all i know is is that Al Harrington is the worst "Leader" I have seen. Faux leader. Actually does damage to his team trying to be a leader.

He talks the talk but can not walk the walk. I think he should be relegated to the bench and be a 6'9" microwave.
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10/28/2009  11:01 PM
At least there is no morning shoot around before Friday's game. These guys don't look like they need more practice or prep time.
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10/28/2009  11:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2009  11:22 PM
Even if Gallinari fails trying to do other things, I want to see him attempt to DO OTHER THINGS. I'm starting to understand all the criticism he got last year from different people on this site. I thought a lot of that criticism came way too early -- I mean the guy wasn't even healthy last year. This year, right from pre-season, it's a different story. He says he's 100% physically so that's no longer an issue. OK, so now show us your stuff. Hey Gallo, got anything else in your little bag of tricks besides the 3 point stroke? If not, I'm not gonna be able to defend you any more. That's it. We did take this kid 6th in the draft. I want to be able to defend him - but show me a little versatility bro, please...
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10/28/2009  11:01 PM
He also shot 45% last season. Taking away his shot is easier said than done.
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10/28/2009  11:02 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
JamaicanJetFan wrote:'When teams take it away from him eventually'...that's easier said than done. Gallo has done a very good job of learning how to draw contact and go to the line. He's going to get a LOT of FTAs this year.

Absolutely.

Man I hope you guys are right, I really do. I pray I'm wrong. I just don't see it..
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10/28/2009  11:02 PM
Kinda hard to go nuts about a kid like Gallo having a great shooting night in his 1st regular season game of the year. Baby steps man, baby steps! Just be glad he got to see his shots going in and so did the rest of the league, cuz establishing that shot is gonna be the key to opening up his whole game!
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10/28/2009  11:04 PM
Finestrg wrote:
masud wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Gallo had 22 pts. on 7-14 from the field, 7-13 from 3. That's just not good basketball. That's Jason Kapono/Steve Novak stuff. I hated the way he played tonight -- Yeah he had 22 pts., but anyone that thought he played well tonight, think again...This guy's just not playing with any versatility to him at all. I defended this guy up the ying-yang but I honestly don't know if I can do it anymore.

Dude that's over 50%, very efficient. Gallo had a very good game tonight.

Fool's gold. You know how easy it will be for teams to take that away from him eventually. What's he gonna go then -- give up the ball , that's what...Kelly saying the same thing I've been saying on the post game right now...

Gallo hasn't really played much in the NBA but in the 28 games and a few preseason games this year, I've seen him post up, cut to the basket and of course his professional highlights in Europe were filled with clips of him going to the basket.

MSG showed highlights of Gallo's 3 point shots and most of them showed a wide open shooter hitting baskets. Nothing wrong with taking what the defense gives you.

It's one game and I think you will see Gallo do different things once defenses tighten their D. Remember, he is almost like a red-shirt.

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10/28/2009  11:05 PM
I don't see it either with Gallo. The one thing I have seen is the shot but he needs to do more. Ryan Anderson had a similar stat line from the floor tonight but he does alot more on the court from what I have seen.
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10/28/2009  11:06 PM
Finestrg wrote:Even if Gallinari fails trying to do other things, I want to see him attempt to DO OTHER THINGS. I'm starting to understand all the criticism he got last year from different people on this site. I thought a lot of that criticism came way too early -- I mean the guy wasn't even healthy last year. This year, right from pre-season, it's a different story. He says he's 100% physically so that's no longer an issue. OK, so no show us your stuff. Hey Gallo, got anything else in your little bag of tricks besides the 3 point stroke? If not, I'm not gonna be able to defend you any more. That's it. We did take this kid 6th in the draft. I want to be able to defend him - but show me a little versatility bro, please...

Did you get to watch the 2nd pre-season game against the Celtics? I think that was a small sample of what Gallo can do. He shot 50% from 3 and went to the line 10 times.
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10/28/2009  11:07 PM
Finestrg wrote:Here's the difference between Gallo and Hill --- Hill showed me last year at Arizona that he has a complete big man's game. You'll never here me say Jordan Hill's "raw." That's the last word I'd ever use to describe this guy...6'10", quick, rebounder, post player, solid mid-range game. All you Hill haters can say whatever you want - this guy has COMPLETE game type skills for a young big man. All he needs to do is development it and fine tune it at this level now.

All Gallo does, on the other hand, is shoot 3s. That's it. If he does something else that I'm missing please let me know... severly limited rebound potential, he doesn't go to the hole, and despite the rave reviews about his defense, he ain't defending anyone in the NBA - smaller guys, guys his size...Nobody..

Between Hill and Gallo, I'm much more worried about Gallinari right now.

he shot 50%, he was open, what do you expect him to do? prove that he can drive when teams are letting him shoot and he is hitting?

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10/28/2009  11:20 PM
If you look at the Euro vids of this guy on Youtube, one clip I remember had him ripping down a rebound and going coast-to-coast for a score. You know for the life of me, I honestly can't say I ever remember seeing Gallo ever even getting out on the break and finishing with an easy two...Now tonight in one sequence, he gets the ball in the backcourt, begins bringing it up but when a Heat defender came over and merely applied some light pressure, he immediately picked up the ball, gave up his handle and had to pass it across the timeline...Now if he does that, how hard would it be to press him HARD on the perimeter in a half court set to get him to give up the rock? You crowd this guy tight and overplay him out high, you'll get him to give up the ball almost every time. He hasn't really shown otherwise, nothing consistent anyway...What'll wind up happening most times is he'll give it up to some other mo-mo on this team that'll jack up a bomb. That's it, that's the offense on this team in a nutshell. His 7-13 from 3 tonight plays right into everything that's wrong with this team right now.....If I were an opposing coach drawing up a strategy against the Knicks, that's one of the first things I'd tell my guys - don't leave this guy alone out there - crowd him and make him give up the ball. Soon that'll be a key startegy used against the Knicks by teams - you can bank on it. Then it'll be up to Gallo to show some versatility, much more than few flashes he's shown so far...
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10/28/2009  11:23 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I don't see it either with Gallo. The one thing I have seen is the shot but he needs to do more. Ryan Anderson had a similar stat line from the floor tonight but he does alot more on the court from what I have seen.

Bingo. I love that kid Anderson btw...
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10/28/2009  11:24 PM
I'm telling you that is gonna open up his game as the season moves along. We've seen the kid drive before so it's not like when Frye wasn't posting up and it has more to do with him not being able to do effectively. Gallo has shown he can pump fake and drive. Being deadly from 3 is a big plus. Also it's a great sign of Gallo raising his focus when it really counts, which you want to see from your young players.
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