Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by eViL:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by OasisBU:
With our luck we will get the top pick next year and have to ship it to Utah. Why can't we give them this pick?
why don't we just buy an extra pick & give it to Utah?
I thought you were quoting me because I wrote almost the exact same thing as Oasis (in a different thread though). I think the whole "buy a pick" thing isn't as easy as people make it out to be. That's probably why we don't just buy one and give it to Utah. Another thing, if you're Utah and you want a pick, why not just buy it yourself and keep the Knicks pick next year? It's not like this would be some secret transaction that no one in the league hears about.
i don't think Utah has a choice in the matter, do they? they can't refuse a pick we offer if it fits into the guidelines of the trade that was made, can they?
They own the rights to the Knicks first round pick unprotected in 2010. They do not have to accept anything else because that is what they are specifically owed. Theoretically, they could agree to accept something else in return, however, I don't think we can just go buy a pick and say "there you have it, a first round pick." Of course, this is all dictated by a contract between the Knicks and Utah (by way of Phoenix) which is probably also governed by NBA rules. If the contract was not specific as to the source of the pick, I guess we could give them any first round pick we want, but I have a feeling that the deal specifically states the Knicks will send their 2010 pick (unprotected) to Utah.
as i understand it it's the Knicks' option to give them whatever pick they like until this year, after which Utah automatically owns the rights to the 2010 pick... i don't see why they couldn't just buy a pick & give it to them & let that be the end of it, but i dunno if there's any clauses in the contract against going that route.
I can't really find a better source, but if you check
here it says:
Utah receives a 2009 New York first-round pick (top 22 protected in 2009 and unproteced in 2010) (Tom Gugliotta trade 021904) via Phoenix (Marbury trade) Phoenix receives a 2005 New York Knicks first-round pick. (010504 Marbury trade).
I think teams are specific about the picks they are trading and receiving because otherwise a team could trade a future first rounder today in a package for a superstar and then turn around tomorrow, and buy a late pick, and send that over as if it satisfies the deal. That just doesn't seem right. The quote above seems specific enough to suggest that the pick involved in the trade would be the Knicks pick and not some pick that the Knicks own by way of some other, yet to be consummated, transaction.
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