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tkf
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2/8/2013  1:31 AM
3G4G wrote:They are an amazing team and fun to watch without Melo. You have no idea who's going to do what on their team

Denver is fun to watch... they make you guard 5 guys instead of 1.. they defend and they will run the ball down your throat....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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tkf
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2/8/2013  1:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  1:35 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/8/2013  3:47 AM
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

I read some article a few weeks ago saying that Denver fans seemed to dislike their team this year, considering they're doing pretty well- I don't follow them so I was wondering whether that was true and why that was- was it just because of the slow start they got off too? Or have nugget fans begun emulating themselves on Knick fans?!
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2/8/2013  8:38 AM
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

I read some article a few weeks ago saying that Denver fans seemed to dislike their team this year, considering they're doing pretty well- I don't follow them so I was wondering whether that was true and why that was- was it just because of the slow start they got off too? Or have nugget fans begun emulating themselves on Knick fans?!

They don't have a "go to guy"?

Gallo inconsistency is frustrating for them. Javale also. Iggy has big contract but he is a "Glue guy" than a marketable 20 pt scorer.

I think Kostas got hurt and Moz is getting more minutes. They are deep there. He is a free agent this year.

Lets bring him back and keep making the trade more lopsided!

Fans are fickle, no?

As long as knicks take care of their business than its all irrelevant what others do.

Knicks-Denver in the finals!!!!!

Neither team goes that far without the trade.
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2/8/2013  9:33 AM
Bring back a 26 year old Mozgov just to get a "piece" back from the trade? Let's not and say we did. We've already upgraded our Center position over Mozgov by the name of Tyson Chandler. Move along people.

Mozgov is only averaging 10.3 minutes per game here in 2012-2013 for a reason. And it's because he's pretty much an awful basketball player. Clueless on the basketball court to say the least. Only 3.0 points, 2.9 boards, 0.6 blocks and 0.2 assists for a 7'1 Center during his 3rd NBA season? Pathetic. If we're to upgrade at the Center position behind Tyson Chandler, it better be rookie with a boat load of potential before ever brining Mozgov of all players back.

Maybe we should also bring back the likes of scrubs such as Eddy Curry and Anthony Randolph in order to make the trade more lopsided?
tkf
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2/8/2013  10:07 AM
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

I read some article a few weeks ago saying that Denver fans seemed to dislike their team this year, considering they're doing pretty well- I don't follow them so I was wondering whether that was true and why that was- was it just because of the slow start they got off too? Or have nugget fans begun emulating themselves on Knick fans?!

that is interesting.. I am in the denver forums, a lot, most fans I speak with, on the forums and off are extremely happy.. how can they not be.... like every fan, they want to get out of the first round, the problem is, they realize that they are in the same confrence as the spurs and thunder, they are in a tough confrence, and sometimes getting out of the first round, or even second round can look gloomy, considering the level of comp there.....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/8/2013  10:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  10:31 AM
tkf wrote: like every fan, they want to get out of the first round, the problem is, they realize that they are in the same confrence as the spurs and thunder, they are in a tough confrence, and sometimes getting out of the first round, or even second round can look gloomy, considering the level of comp there.....

I know right.

I mean, it's not like a certain (specific) player didn't go up against the likes of dynasty era's such as the Lakers (x2) and Spurs (x2) during 4 separate first rounder's... But now, it's, Gallo's in such a tough conference. So funny.

Since Gallo is oh so much better than a specific someone, he should have NO problems advancing his Denver Nuggets to not only the Western Conference Finals, but also to the actual Finals. Or better yet, out of the first round for the first time during his 5 year NBA career ala three failures to make the postseason along with two first round exits (that's what he's looking at with another first round exit). Lets see if Gallo can finally lead his team out of the first round during his 5th year...
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2/8/2013  10:30 AM
NYKMentality wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

I read some article a few weeks ago saying that Denver fans seemed to dislike their team this year, considering they're doing pretty well- I don't follow them so I was wondering whether that was true and why that was- was it just because of the slow start they got off too? Or have nugget fans begun emulating themselves on Knick fans?!

like every fan, they want to get out of the first round, the problem is, they realize that they are in the same confrence as the spurs and thunder, they are in a tough confrence, and sometimes getting out of the first round, or even second round can look gloomy, considering the level of comp there.....

I know right.

I mean, it's not like a certain (specific) player didn't go up against the likes of dynasty era's such as the Lakers (x2) and Spurs (x2) during 4 separate first rounder's... But now, it's, Gallo's in such a tough conference. So funny.

Since Gallo is oh so much better than a specific someone, he should have NO problems advancing his Denver Nuggets to not only the Western Conference Finals, but also to the actual Finals. Or better yet, out of the first round for the first time during his 5 year NBA career ala three failures to make the postseason along with two first round exits. Lets see if Gallo can finally lead his team out of the first round during his 5th year...

It shouldn't be a problem. Afterall, Melo was holding them back and they're better since the trade so the Nuggets should be beasting come playoff time.

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2/8/2013  10:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  10:40 AM
NYKMentality wrote:
tkf wrote: like every fan, they want to get out of the first round, the problem is, they realize that they are in the same confrence as the spurs and thunder, they are in a tough confrence, and sometimes getting out of the first round, or even second round can look gloomy, considering the level of comp there.....

I know right.

I mean, it's not like a certain (specific) player didn't go up against the likes of dynasty era's such as the Lakers (x2) and Spurs (x2) during 4 separate first rounder's... But now, it's, Gallo's in such a tough conference. So funny.

Since Gallo is oh so much better than a specific someone, he should have NO problems advancing his Denver Nuggets to not only the Western Conference Finals, but also to the actual Finals. Or better yet, out of the first round for the first time during his 5 year NBA career ala three failures to make the postseason along with two first round exits (that's what he's looking at with another first round exit). Lets see if Gallo can finally lead his team out of the first round during his 5th year...

you need help...

your insecurity when it comes to carmelo is just down right sad..... you still made this about gallo... The nuggets are finally a TEAM.... not one guy trying to play hero ball... the same problems he had in,denver he has, and will have them here.... one day you will realize that, and then the tears will flow like a river.. I feel for you....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/8/2013  10:39 AM
CashMoney wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

I read some article a few weeks ago saying that Denver fans seemed to dislike their team this year, considering they're doing pretty well- I don't follow them so I was wondering whether that was true and why that was- was it just because of the slow start they got off too? Or have nugget fans begun emulating themselves on Knick fans?!

like every fan, they want to get out of the first round, the problem is, they realize that they are in the same confrence as the spurs and thunder, they are in a tough confrence, and sometimes getting out of the first round, or even second round can look gloomy, considering the level of comp there.....

I know right.

I mean, it's not like a certain (specific) player didn't go up against the likes of dynasty era's such as the Lakers (x2) and Spurs (x2) during 4 separate first rounder's... But now, it's, Gallo's in such a tough conference. So funny.

Since Gallo is oh so much better than a specific someone, he should have NO problems advancing his Denver Nuggets to not only the Western Conference Finals, but also to the actual Finals. Or better yet, out of the first round for the first time during his 5 year NBA career ala three failures to make the postseason along with two first round exits. Lets see if Gallo can finally lead his team out of the first round during his 5th year...

It shouldn't be a problem. Afterall, Melo was holding them back and they're better since the trade so the Nuggets should be beasting come playoff time.

Hell yeah. And it's all Gallo's fault why Denver was eliminated against OKC and Lakers during his previous two first rounder's. Just being objective here (learned from the very best). I mean, it's not like Gallo didn't go 1/9 from the field during a game 7 with only 3 points and 3 turnovers during game 7 against the Lakers. Completely chocked, crapped the bed and prevented his Nuggets from advancing... He actually chocked during 5 of those 7 games. But game 7 was drop dead horrible. Prevented his entire team from their dreams of winning a chip last year. His postseason performances during OKC were also pretty damn ugly as well.

But yea, enough of this Gallo talk. Lets talk some NBA basketball. After our Knicks game, anyone amped for Chicago @ Utah? Would be nice to see Chicago lose 3 consecutive and/or 4 of their last 5... When Rose comes back? Hopefully we're a good 4-5 games ahead of those guys. Could take Chicago a while before they adjust to Rose and vice versa.
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2/8/2013  10:41 AM
funny dude... brings up gallo, and then says "enough of this gallo talk".... wow.... this is reaching epic levels of sadness..
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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2/8/2013  10:45 AM
I think Wilson Chandler is really missed because of his versatility/defense that he brings
Felton/Billup's was a really bad swap considering Billup's age and inability to penetrate

It is true about Melo, he really had the power to give the Knick's the leverage that Walsh knew he should have had

It isn't about the swap of players it is about their value's at the time, which was much higher than they were right now due to their rookie contract's/upside at the time/ and the ability to maintain asset's for a future deal. The deal that the Denver Nugget's made saved the financial flexibility/salaries/commitments that we saved them that year, which was from being 70m + taxes to saving 30m + taxes and salaries, in addition to the pick's/young player's that they were able to get
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2/8/2013  10:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2013  10:48 AM
tkf wrote:funny dude... brings up gallo, and then says "enough of this gallo talk".... wow.... this is reaching epic levels of sadness..

I only mentioned Gallo and Denver, because like always, a specific poster was talking about Gallo (as always). But, is this the Gallo/Nuggets thread, or... The other games thread? Sorry for biting your bait. You laid the hook. I bit. And talked some Gallo. How was his postseason performance during game 7 last year? In short, he held his entire team back and prevented them from advancing due to 1/9 shooting, 3 points, only 3 boards and 4 turnovers... When it mattered the most too. Choked under pressure is an understatement.
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2/8/2013  10:47 AM
CashMoney wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
tkf wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I love the media's complete 180 on the package Denver got for Melo. These same guys where laughing at the Knicks for offering Gallo, Chandler Mozgov and company saying it is a no brainer for the Knicks

amazing what winning does...Denver has been good since the trade and now they are hot.... not surprised to see the media change their tune....

I read some article a few weeks ago saying that Denver fans seemed to dislike their team this year, considering they're doing pretty well- I don't follow them so I was wondering whether that was true and why that was- was it just because of the slow start they got off too? Or have nugget fans begun emulating themselves on Knick fans?!

like every fan, they want to get out of the first round, the problem is, they realize that they are in the same confrence as the spurs and thunder, they are in a tough confrence, and sometimes getting out of the first round, or even second round can look gloomy, considering the level of comp there.....

I know right.

I mean, it's not like a certain (specific) player didn't go up against the likes of dynasty era's such as the Lakers (x2) and Spurs (x2) during 4 separate first rounder's... But now, it's, Gallo's in such a tough conference. So funny.

Since Gallo is oh so much better than a specific someone, he should have NO problems advancing his Denver Nuggets to not only the Western Conference Finals, but also to the actual Finals. Or better yet, out of the first round for the first time during his 5 year NBA career ala three failures to make the postseason along with two first round exits. Lets see if Gallo can finally lead his team out of the first round during his 5th year...

It shouldn't be a problem. Afterall, Melo was holding them back and they're better since the trade so the Nuggets should be beasting come playoff time.

During the regular season, teams do a 2 hr walk thru to prepare for there next opponent, during the playoffs teams have a 2 day window to prepare for their opponent..

Eveyone knows that run and gun game plan is a wash in the playoffs. They were on fire after the trade, and look terrible came playoffs

ES
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2/8/2013  10:56 AM
NYKMentality wrote:Bring back a 26 year old Mozgov just to get a "piece" back from the trade? Let's not and say we did. We've already upgraded our Center position over Mozgov by the name of Tyson Chandler. Move along people.

Mozgov is only averaging 10.3 minutes per game here in 2012-2013 for a reason. And it's because he's pretty much an awful basketball player. Clueless on the basketball court to say the least. Only 3.0 points, 2.9 boards, 0.6 blocks and 0.2 assists for a 7'1 Center during his 3rd NBA season? Pathetic. If we're to upgrade at the Center position behind Tyson Chandler, it better be rookie with a boat load of potential before ever brining Mozgov of all players back.

Maybe we should also bring back the likes of scrubs such as Eddy Curry and Anthony Randolph in order to make the trade more lopsided?

as a back up to tyson as he ages or goes on IR.

Who is our back up center these days? Amare!

The reason he is not getting minutes is they have three centers and he is not the better of the three.

Do tell of a "rookie with a boat load of potention" that is magically available in your fable world?

A 26 year old MOzgov is doing better than Camby for the money this season isn't he?

Since a few have felt better about Raymond coming back which "defates the price we paid" its a concept we are familiar with.

Relax Francis, not everything is that intense.
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2/8/2013  11:05 AM
Sorry, but I don't want a career 3rd stringer as my backup who plays lost and confused on the basketball court. I'd rather develop a 19-21 year old rookie Center before going with a career nothing and/or career 3rd stringer such as Mozgov. If we can get a productive free agent to backup Chandler, great. If not, to the draft we go before ever, ever, ever bringing Mozgov (of all players) back.
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2/8/2013  11:15 AM
NYKMentality wrote:Sorry, but I don't want a career 3rd stringer as my backup who plays lost and confused on the basketball court. I'd rather develop a 19-21 year old rookie Center before going with a career nothing and/or career 3rd stringer such as Mozgov. If we can get a productive free agent to backup Chandler, great. If not, to the draft we go before ever, ever, ever bringing Mozgov (of all players) back.

Of course you would............its nice to "pretend" right?

Woodson is going to rely on a 20 year old who is a low draft pick but somehow is physically able to play with men (Centers develeope slowy don't they?) and at the same time is fully in synch with the speed and power of the NBA game!

Its a great concept! Let me know when this mythical person arrives.
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2/8/2013  11:28 AM
Sure beats going with a 26 year old with a career average of 12.8 minutes, 4.1 points, 3.3 boards, 0.7 blocks, 0.4 assists, 0.2 steals and 0.9 turnovers per game. Just about anything is an upgrade over Mozgov. Including a rookie. His potential is drop dead awful. Hasn't progressed one bit despite the fact that he's in his 3rd NBA season as a 26 year old. Karl may not have ever won a championship as a head coach, but he plays his good players regardless of depth chart. Only getting 10 minutes per game here in 2012-2013? It's because Mozgov has little to zero value on an NBA basketball court.
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2/8/2013  12:03 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Sure beats going with a 26 year old with a career average of 12.8 minutes, 4.1 points, 3.3 boards, 0.7 blocks, 0.4 assists, 0.2 steals and 0.9 turnovers per game. Just about anything is an upgrade over Mozgov. Including a rookie. His potential is drop dead awful. Hasn't progressed one bit despite the fact that he's in his 3rd NBA season as a 26 year old. Karl may not have ever won a championship as a head coach, but he plays his good players regardless of depth chart. Only getting 10 minutes per game here in 2012-2013? It's because Mozgov has little to zero value on an NBA basketball court.

He has been a career back up thus far and is on a team with two guys better than him and his contract ends this year.

Nobody said he was a valuable commodity or a great player.

But a capable back up perhaps.

He has shown NBA talent. Your mythical fable player is conceptual at best.

Mozgov is tangable.

Camby has proven to be a disaster this year.

Mozgov will likley be traded in the next two weeks. No blockbuster.

If sheed is done and camby can't go then what?

I'd trade Copeland for Mozzy based on need alone.

15 min type player. Nothing more.
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2/8/2013  12:35 PM
They will be trading Mozgov by the deadline and there are teams interested. Going to be hard for the Knicks since they have nothing to offer
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