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DrAlphaeus
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10/28/2016  1:44 PM
Nalod wrote:White Trash vs. Goldman Sachs

Somebody had to say it.

I'm not white but I really hate that term.

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GoNyGoNyGo
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10/28/2016  1:45 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
arkrud wrote:His supporters are all coming to the pulls.
A lot of people who oppose him will not going to vote...

Is this data you're citing, or some other basis of conclusion?


IDK, some of the data I've seen give higher enthusiasm among his supporters, but Hillary has a MUCH better on the ground effort from what I've been reading.

That is correct, and we have learned what their on the ground effort is capable of. (Veritas videos)

I assume of course you saw the BusinessWeek piece about Trump's voter suppression plans, yes?

Yes, did you? The article is about Trump's direct marketing plans and how they use it and it may be used for TV . What does it have to do with voter fraud like that was exposed in the Veritas videos? Those were out and out CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES they discussed.

Suppression by marketing ideas in particular locations is far from voter fraud. The words "fraud" or "illegal" are not mentioned once in the article.

In the video the perpetrators acknowledged that what they were doing was voter fraud.

By "perpetrators" you mean braggers?

Nothing was "exposed" in the Veritas videos. Again, stop filling in the blanks.

I suppose its similar to the candidate bragging about sexual misconduct and the candidates husband's trouble past with sexual misconduct.

But your mileage may vary.

You are leading and deflecting again. It is disappointing.

You don't deny that nothing in the article was considered to be illegal or fraud not even by the writer who used many biased and subjective statement throughout the article.

There are quotes, by the perpetrators, in the video saying it was illegal voter fraud. Their own words. Not subjective words by a biased writer.

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10/28/2016  1:50 PM
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reub wrote:The FBI dumped Hillary's email investigation documents today, on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, so we now know that they're in the tank for her. They did this to cause the least amount of damage to her. In that document dump it was revealed that she claimed she couldn't remember 26 times during her FBI investigation (she's done the same exact thing in the past). She also, the documents show, clicked on a phishing scam and answered it, exposing her emails, thousands of which were government related and many of which were classified, to hackers. It also came out that she had 13 devices that she used to access her emails, most or all of which have been "lost" or destroyed, conveniently shielding any further evidence about whether or not she was hacked and what exactly she was really up to.

What the republican head of the FBI is doing is unprecedented..If you listen to the news, you will hear the newscaster say and "In a surprise more email related releases from the FBI.." I expect this slow methodical email related release will continue until the election..I think the head of the FBI is done if Hillary gets in there and he knows it..

I'm just amazed at the traction it has gotten tho..Emails and Benghazi..You would think Hillary orchestrated the attacks on the Embassy..


From page 6 of this thread...

This is unprecedented. The thing is that just the inference of taking a look at new emails assumes that they have something damning, but that unknown. Trump and the Republicans are jumping all over this but they don't even know what the emails say. They are simply using the notion of "emails" as guilt.

No one has said anything about what the emails actually are but as usual all they need is the HINT of something bad and they build it up into a huge scandal. I can't believe James Comey would do this so close to an election. People are already voting and all this is is an investigation which won't conclude for a long time after the election. So we won't even know if this is anything or just more noise.
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10/28/2016  1:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2016  1:52 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

And the markets tanking... related?

They were down a little already..really didn't have that big of an impact but small...Mexican Peso taking a hit tho...
Knickoftime
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10/28/2016  1:56 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
arkrud wrote:His supporters are all coming to the pulls.
A lot of people who oppose him will not going to vote...

Is this data you're citing, or some other basis of conclusion?


IDK, some of the data I've seen give higher enthusiasm among his supporters, but Hillary has a MUCH better on the ground effort from what I've been reading.

That is correct, and we have learned what their on the ground effort is capable of. (Veritas videos)

I assume of course you saw the BusinessWeek piece about Trump's voter suppression plans, yes?

Yes, did you? The article is about Trump's direct marketing plans and how they use it and it may be used for TV . What does it have to do with voter fraud like that was exposed in the Veritas videos? Those were out and out CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES they discussed.

Suppression by marketing ideas in particular locations is far from voter fraud. The words "fraud" or "illegal" are not mentioned once in the article.

In the video the perpetrators acknowledged that what they were doing was voter fraud.

By "perpetrators" you mean braggers?

Nothing was "exposed" in the Veritas videos. Again, stop filling in the blanks.

I suppose its similar to the candidate bragging about sexual misconduct and the candidates husband's trouble past with sexual misconduct.

But your mileage may vary.

You are leading and deflecting again. It is disappointing.

You were mistaken the first time you accused of it. So rethink "again."

What's "disappointing" is the clear preference to make this personal.

You don't deny that nothing in the article was considered to be illegal or fraud not even by the writer who used many biased and subjective statement throughout the article.

Why would I have to deny something I never claimed?

As someone who is on record condemning alleged acts that also weren't illegal and fraud, just ethically dubious, my position is consistent.

There are quotes, by the perpetrators, in the video saying it was illegal voter fraud. Their own words. Not subjective words by a biased writer.

You're misreading what I posted.

Again, stop assuming something that isn't there. Stick to my actual direct words or if you don't understand something, ask.

Is there any direct link to what is edited on the Veritas videos to Clinton?

Is there any direct evidence that what was claimed actually occurred?

Consider these genuine questions.
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10/28/2016  1:58 PM
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

And the markets tanking... related?

They were down a little already..really didn't have that big of an impact but small...Mexican Peso taking a hit tho...

C'mon fellas, we really going to do the conspiracy thing, just in reverse?
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10/28/2016  2:04 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

And the markets tanking... related?

They were down a little already..really didn't have that big of an impact but small...Mexican Peso taking a hit tho...

C'mon fellas, we really going to do the conspiracy thing, just in reverse?

Honest question about the coincidence since I know holfresh watches these things. I don't really understand what spooks the markets... does anyone?

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10/28/2016  2:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2016  2:10 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

And the markets tanking... related?

They were down a little already..really didn't have that big of an impact but small...Mexican Peso taking a hit tho...

C'mon fellas, we really going to do the conspiracy thing, just in reverse?

Honest question about the coincidence since I know holfresh watches these things. I don't really understand what spooks the markets... does anyone?


It absolutely had an effect..All these things are related...Clinton is seen a stable, predictable and market friendly...The financial markets are terrified of Trump..Prediction of Trump wins is that the market will be down 10-15%, Oil off 4%, Europe lower as well...Oil is lower by 2% right now...
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10/28/2016  2:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2016  2:22 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-re-open-investigation-clinton-email-server-n674631

fbi to investigate new hillary clinton emails.

they found new emails in another investigation and want to determine if they had classified info or not.
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10/28/2016  2:21 PM
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

And the markets tanking... related?

They were down a little already..really didn't have that big of an impact but small...Mexican Peso taking a hit tho...

C'mon fellas, we really going to do the conspiracy thing, just in reverse?

Honest question about the coincidence since I know holfresh watches these things. I don't really understand what spooks the markets... does anyone?


It absolutely had an effect..All these things are related...Clinton is seen a stable, predictable and market friendly...The financial markets are terrified of Trump..Prediction of Trump wins is that the market will be down 10-15%, Oil off 4%, Europe lower as well...Oil is lower by 2% right now...

Republicans are irrationally confident.

Democrats are irrationally nervous.

Same as it always is.

Democrats are going to wring their hands until California, Washington and Oregon are called.
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10/28/2016  2:22 PM
Wall Street in a state of panic? My dream is finally being actualized
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10/28/2016  2:23 PM
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

What took them so long?

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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10/28/2016  2:23 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Wall Street in a state of panic? My dream is finally being actualized

Down is down 5 points.

Or 0.03%.

Run for the hills.
Knickoftime
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10/28/2016  2:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2016  2:26 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

What took them so long?

From what I gathered reading this forum, it appears Clinton and secret world bank illuminati has allowed or directed the FBI to do this.
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10/28/2016  2:28 PM
MSNBC reporting they are not hillary's emails and not connected to wikileaks or russia.
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10/28/2016  2:29 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
arkrud wrote:His supporters are all coming to the pulls.
A lot of people who oppose him will not going to vote...

Is this data you're citing, or some other basis of conclusion?


IDK, some of the data I've seen give higher enthusiasm among his supporters, but Hillary has a MUCH better on the ground effort from what I've been reading.

That is correct, and we have learned what their on the ground effort is capable of. (Veritas videos)

I assume of course you saw the BusinessWeek piece about Trump's voter suppression plans, yes?

Yes, did you? The article is about Trump's direct marketing plans and how they use it and it may be used for TV . What does it have to do with voter fraud like that was exposed in the Veritas videos? Those were out and out CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES they discussed.

Suppression by marketing ideas in particular locations is far from voter fraud. The words "fraud" or "illegal" are not mentioned once in the article.

In the video the perpetrators acknowledged that what they were doing was voter fraud.

By "perpetrators" you mean braggers?

Nothing was "exposed" in the Veritas videos. Again, stop filling in the blanks. Not true.

I suppose its similar to the candidate bragging about sexual misconduct and the candidates husband's trouble past with sexual misconduct.

But your mileage may vary.

You are leading and deflecting again. It is disappointing.

You were mistaken the first time you accused of it. So rethink "again." I disagree. .

What's "disappointing" is the clear preference to make this personal. Not personal, truthful.

You don't deny that nothing in the article was considered to be illegal or fraud not even by the writer who used many biased and subjective statement throughout the article.

Why would I have to deny something I never claimed? What was the purpose of citing the article that you did ? Was it not imply equivalence between the two? or was is simply educational?

As someone who is on record condemning alleged acts that also weren't illegal and fraud, just ethically dubious, my position is consistent.

There are quotes, by the perpetrators, in the video saying it was illegal voter fraud. Their own words. Not subjective words by a biased writer.

You're misreading what I posted. Explain.


Again, stop assuming something that isn't there. Stick to my actual direct words or if you don't understand something, ask. I understand completely.

Is there any direct link to what is on the Veritas videos to Clinton?Yes, in the 3rd video, Creamer clearly says the Ducks were the candidates idea.

Is there any direct evidence that what was claimed actually occurred? yes, Ducks were there and they admitted to agitators causing violence in Chicago.

Consider these genuine questions.

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10/28/2016  2:30 PM
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Knickoftime wrote:
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
holfresh wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:
holfresh wrote:FBI probing new Hillary Clinton emails...

And the markets tanking... related?

They were down a little already..really didn't have that big of an impact but small...Mexican Peso taking a hit tho...

C'mon fellas, we really going to do the conspiracy thing, just in reverse?

Honest question about the coincidence since I know holfresh watches these things. I don't really understand what spooks the markets... does anyone?


It absolutely had an effect..All these things are related...Clinton is seen a stable, predictable and market friendly...The financial markets are terrified of Trump..Prediction of Trump wins is that the market will be down 10-15%, Oil off 4%, Europe lower as well...Oil is lower by 2% right now...

Republicans are irrationally confident.

Democrats are irrationally nervous.

Same as it always is.

Democrats are going to wring their hands until California, Washington and Oregon are called.


Sixers welcome Sevyn Streeter to sing after protest debate...
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Knickoftime
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GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I disagree. .

So me promising to revisit the topic and then doing exactly that in great details when more, better information was available was distracting and disappointing to you?

Heh, fair enough.

What's "disappointing" is the clear preference to make this personal. Not personal, truthful.

Irrelevant. I've never dodged a question asked.

What was the purpose of citing the article that you did ? Was it not imply equivalence between the two? or was is simply educational?

Both. Though equivalence is the wrong choice of words.

To raise an issue and assume "equivalence" is the implication is poor form, if we care what equivalent actually means.

Is there any direct link to what is on the Veritas videos to Clinton?Yes, in the 3rd video, Creamer clearly says the Ducks were the candidates idea.

Is there any direct evidence that what was claimed actually occurred? [b]yes, Ducks were there and they admitted to agitators causing violence in Chicago.

I'm sorry, I believe I may misunderstand the issue at hand. Is sending a person in a donald duck costume to rallies considered illegal voter fraud?

Again, genuine question.
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