holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..

If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..

If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??

Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.

Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.

BRIGGS wrote:

Disgusting---complete liar.

BRIGGS, do we really need to go through and show all the untrue things Trump has said? This whole idea that you are voting for Trump because Hillary is a liar is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Trump has lied far more than Hillary throughout this campaign.

You should read the Art of the Lie regarding Donald Trump and the many lies he has told. See below:

Correct The Record today released The Art of the Lie: The Definitive Guide to Donald’s Dishonesty, a new e-book examining how—and why—Donald Trump lies. Over the past sixteen months, Trump has waged an all-out assault on the principle of fact-based debate that is the cornerstone of modern American politics. By analyzing the totality of Trump’s falsehoods and deconstructing his self-serving lies, The Art of the Lie exposes the Republican nominee as one of the most talented and dangerous con men in American history.

“Donald Trump’s mendacity goes beyond anything we’ve ever seen in American politics and threatens to completely destroy our democracy’s bedrock values of honesty and openness,” said Brad Woodhouse, President of Correct The Record. “We wrote this book out of a simple belief: Donald Trump is playing a massive con on the American people, and he must be exposed.”

In his penchant for self-aggrandizement, his fondness for conspiracy theories and his blatant disregard for facts, Trump is unlike any major party presidential candidate in modern American history. For Trump, lying is not just about spouting inaccuracies. It is literally central to his political identity. In the past four months alone, Trump has told at least 1,057 lies. And PolitiFact has rated about 70 percent of Trump’s statements they fact checked as falsehoods. The previous Republican nominee, Mitt Romney, received a 42 percent false rating—a 28 percent difference.

This book is the latest effort in Correct the Record’s Trump Lies Project, which is an effort to hold Trump accountable for his unprecedented deceitfulness. Since June, Correct The Record has tracked and fact checked Trump’s false claims in real time and released a weekly roundup of Trump’s lies each Friday. This book builds on that work but also goes deeper by examining exactly how Trump lies and how his lies have constructed a self-serving and outlandish alternative reality. Read The Art of the Lie here.

BRIGGS wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Trumps urban renewal speech in NC today. I really hope African Americans finally get it. They get "used" by Clinton's for a vote while the other candidate has consistently said he wants to rebuild inner cities.

The second you vote for Hillary--you will not see her in your corner again--shes done. Use your brains--vote Trump or at a minimum go independent=--dont vote for Hillary

The MFer is a HUGE real estate developer. If he really gave a damn about rebuilding the inner city to help black folks he kinda already had a job that is better suited for it than the presidency. Why was he so busy courting Money Making Manhattan and bankrupting Atlantic City casinos — that he'd shoo black dealers off the floor if he was giving a whale a tour — if he really gave a damn about us?

I believe he would help the inner cities--I DO NOT NO WAY beliueve Hillary will do sht. Simple as that. P Diddy was very smart when he reasoned that the AA could deal with Trump. Trump is NOT the white establishment figure--you go it hes a developer a builder and a job creator. What will Hillary do for you--ZERO.

BRIGGS what empirical evidence do you have that Trump is going to help the inner cities. He is talking about stop and frisk laws, and "law and order" which generally only means police harassing minorities. He is not talking about jobs, as he certainly is not going to fund any job training programs or educational programs that would allow people to qualify for better jobs. As a real estate developer, he has excluded blacks from his properties, but you somehow believe that this guy is going to help the inner cities. Your right, Trump is not a White Establishment figure. He is a White Supremacist Figure, which is why all the racist support him.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:She is driven by power and money and has poor ethics.

I get why people hold that POV, but IMO it is also somewhat a selective one and reduces her to a caricature.

Her full biography reveals a person who from a very early age through more than half of her life demonstrated a genuine commitment to public service, particularly in regard to the welfare of children.

If people want to view her full biography as some sort of craven pre-meditated long-term masterplan to rise to the corridors of political power, they can and apparently do.

What it demonstrates to me is the capacity for genuine compassion and public service is there, and seen through that lens it becomes more difficult to reduce her to a Bond villain.

Will you acknowledge and support a Trump win?

Acknowledge? Certainly.

Support? I'm genuinely not certain what form that takes?

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:White Supremacist groups in the US numbered at 76 pre-Trump and now at 190 post Trump candidacy..Questions?

What is a white supremacist?-- there are racist in every group. Who cares. Michael Moore had it right--people who follow Trump aren't racists. They just understand that people who are in charge are good at getting theirs and fcking everyone else. My wife is a nurse and the first hand knowledge I have about illegal immigrants using our health care is very troubling to say the least. It's a horrible situation and people dont get it. I worked in the financial industry for 12 years. I know the deal and thye dont like ANY type of change and why would they--thats why they PAY up to Hillary--shes the figurehead--thats it...--believe me Hillary Clinton is a F racist. Shes called black people super predators. You want to know racists--go throw a mic in her home.

Trump would be good for American Hispanics Chinese and AA--I think the Chinese get it. Not sure about the other two groups. They think a Trump vote is supporting racism--and I do not believe that. Who will do more for them--I think Trump. NO creed should vote 90-10 thats too many followers not enough leaders.

Everyone exploit the system for their own gains if possible...Illegal immigrants used emergency room as the primary physicians but so does the rest of the uninsured population...So you care more that illegal immigrants are driving cost more than the legally uninsured who I would suspect outnumber illegal immigrant by a large margin??

Trump exploited the system not to pay federal taxes for 18 years..The rich paid off congressmen to get it that way...Trump wants to cut their taxes further...Since you worked in the Financial Industry, then you understand Hedge Fund managers are only paying 15% tax on their income or did Obama increase it to 23% recently...What am I missing..

Trump is full of shet dude..Those jobs aren't coming back..This country manufacturing output is at historic highs...We manufacture 3 to 5 times more goods today than in the golden era of this nation's industrial production...The 1950/60s..Boeing puts out more product today at the rate of 160 times than it did in the 1960s...Our car manufacturers are putting out cars today at historic highs IN THE USA...The problem is automation..Trump is telling the people it's NAFTA...It's all BULLSHIT...And you are buying into it...I really don't think Trump knows, he says he doesn't like to read..He probably thinks he can reopen 1950s factories again...

As far as white supremacist...Catch the dude in the Trump logo T-shirt saying Jews weren't oppressed in Russia..These guys aren't only against darkies..

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white-nationalists-find-political-ally-donald-trump/

I'd let the Wall street scumbags keep the extra 8% in income tax if it means stopping extreme liberalism in its tracks. It has to be stopped if you want to continue to live in the United States States of America you've come to know

You just simply and eloquently illustrated a significant divide in the electorate gun.

Many of us do not know to what you refer to when you say "the United States States of America you've come to know."

Can you explain what that is, specifically?

TheGame wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Trumps urban renewal speech in NC today. I really hope African Americans finally get it. They get "used" by Clinton's for a vote while the other candidate has consistently said he wants to rebuild inner cities.

The second you vote for Hillary--you will not see her in your corner again--shes done. Use your brains--vote Trump or at a minimum go independent=--dont vote for Hillary

The MFer is a HUGE real estate developer. If he really gave a damn about rebuilding the inner city to help black folks he kinda already had a job that is better suited for it than the presidency. Why was he so busy courting Money Making Manhattan and bankrupting Atlantic City casinos — that he'd shoo black dealers off the floor if he was giving a whale a tour — if he really gave a damn about us?

I believe he would help the inner cities--I DO NOT NO WAY beliueve Hillary will do sht. Simple as that. P Diddy was very smart when he reasoned that the AA could deal with Trump. Trump is NOT the white establishment figure--you go it hes a developer a builder and a job creator. What will Hillary do for you--ZERO.

BRIGGS what empirical evidence do you have that Trump is going to help the inner cities. He is talking about stop and frisk laws, and "law and order" which generally only means police harassing minorities. He is not talking about jobs, as he certainly is not going to fund any job training programs or educational programs that would allow people to qualify for better jobs. As a real estate developer, he has excluded blacks from his properties, but you somehow believe that this guy is going to help the inner cities. Your right, Trump is not a White Establishment figure. He is a White Supremacist Figure, which is why all the racist support him.

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:I'm curious, isn't walking in on naked 15 year old girls against the law?? Why haven't someone arrested Donald Trump and question him about this episode..Hasn't anyone in the beauty pageant come forward?? How could that not be a criminal act??..He is a voyeur and admitted it on Howard Stern show..

If this happened in the setting of a school then it's a crime, why not in this case??

Anyone saying Hillary is a criminal is being hypocritical. Trump has allegedly done far worse things than Hillary has done, and he actually confessed on tape to one of the crimes.

Can you imagine the SHAME America would have to face if Billy Perv Clinton becomes America's first First Gentleman? What a joke. A shameful, DIRTY joke.

why would there be shame for Bill but not for Donald who has admitted to groping, too openly treating women like dirt, to wandering around naked underage women because "he runs the pagent." Why do YOU guns find shame in Bill but not in Trump? What a joke.

There really is no answer for any of this except that he and Briggs just don't like Hillary

but that's not their answer. They defend Trump as the better option, when he is clearly worse in every area that they hate Clinton. My favorite is when Trump gets exposed for stiffing people and declaring bankruptcy, than turns and blames Clinton for allowing him by not changing the laws. That is perhaps the most incredible of his scumbaggery. But Briggs and Guns love the Amerika dream that Trump is selling. Cool on them.

gunsnewing wrote:Plenty of women have step forward and defended Trump and the idea and accusations that he is SEXUAL PREDATOR. No one has come forward to defend wild bill and hill