Deuce shooting 27% from the field, 25% from 3 and 50% from the FT line.

Mitch showing his worth last night though. 13 & 11, and 8 OREB in just 23 min is crazy.

I underestimated Ihart big time because even if you swapped him out 1 for 1 with KAT, we are probably better.

Chandler wrote:

VDesai wrote:The Knicks best lineup probably involves having OG and Mitch out at the same time. They force turnovers, can defend pick and roll. I'm wondering if they need less of KAT, not more.

Deuce shooting 27% from the field, 25% from 3 and 50% from the FT line.

KAT is our best shooter and probably best passer. We have Zero plays for hi , unless a trailing three counts as such. He is not the issue

Thank goodness Mitch showed some life but his turnovers killed us as did his foul shooting. He is not the answer to our problems at least at Kats expense.

He was really bad on both ends yesterday. 5/14 shooting, couldn't guard the pick and roll for ****, and was absolutely dominated on the Glass. Duren literally snatches the ball from his hands or pushes him away every time. He is averaging less than 0.5 offensive rebounds this series and only 9 rebounds overall (more than 3 few rebounds than the regular season). He has been outhustled by Duren the whole series and that advantage for the Pistons was only negated when Mitch was out there on the floor.

KAT obviously needs to play and play well for us to win. His offensive game was off last night and his defense was worse. He was brutal in the 3rd quarter in a bunch of these games.

VDesai wrote:

Chandler wrote:

VDesai wrote:The Knicks best lineup probably involves having OG and Mitch out at the same time. They force turnovers, can defend pick and roll. I'm wondering if they need less of KAT, not more.

Deuce shooting 27% from the field, 25% from 3 and 50% from the FT line.

KAT is our best shooter and probably best passer. We have Zero plays for hi , unless a trailing three counts as such. He is not the issue

Thank goodness Mitch showed some life but his turnovers killed us as did his foul shooting. He is not the answer to our problems at least at Kats expense.

He was really bad on both ends yesterday. 5/14 shooting, couldn't guard the pick and roll for ****, and was absolutely dominated on the Glass. Duren literally snatches the ball from his hands or pushes him away every time. He is averaging less than 0.5 offensive rebounds this series and only 9 rebounds overall (more than 3 few rebounds than the regular season). He has been outhustled by Duren the whole series and that advantage for the Pistons was only negated when Mitch was out there on the floor.

KAT obviously needs to play and play well for us to win. His offensive game was off last night and his defense was worse. He was brutal in the 3rd quarter in a bunch of these games.

You can't expect a lot of offensive rebounds from a guy playing near the three point line. Similarly, it's easy to overstate Mitch's contribution to rebounding especially when his job on offense is to hang near the rim and try and get offensive rebounds.

To me, the reality is Mitch or Precious should be guarding Duren. Leave KAT on Harris, and get KAT involved earlier and more often.

KATs value is on offense and it's being waaaay under utilized. if you're going to fault him on D, then you should fault Mitch on Offense (4-7 from FTs, TOs, stone hands; we don't even lob to him at this point)

DLeethal wrote:Bridges complete inability to carry offense for stretches while being guarded by Hardaway and Shroeder is just pathetic

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Chandler wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Disgusting game - so many unforced TO’s, dumb fouls and just putrid offense and defense at key times.

Can Brunson or Deuce stop a paper bag? Schroeder killing us at key points and Jalen can’t even step up for a spilt second and slow Cade down off high screen.

Once again Kat literally ignored all night on offensive end —- I don’t recall a single pass from Brunson to Towns.

Shitty offense and Thibs is useless standing on sideline watching this turd burger offense.

this is the story of the game. KAT is our best shooter, not Jalen. Jalen has had pretty good defenders on him. DUren and Harris are not good defenders. SO what's our game plan? Stand around and watch Jalen???

Freaking ridiculous. This is really, really dumb, selfish, egotistical basketball. Simplify the game.

It’s just too easy for us to get into the hero Brunson ball.

Best minutes of entire season were the game 4 1st quarter minute where we were flying around and ball was moving - that lasted ~1 quarter and it;s been gone ever since.

I don’t think Jalen is selfish but more so it’s how he operates—— I wish he’d move the ball more.

Jalen, when he is guarded heavily, seems like the old Charles Barkley or Melo of post play. Holds the ball for a long while (or takes time dribbling ball up court), pounds the post defense, and then reacts with < 5 seconds on clock.

I hated everything about this game. Extremely beyond words disappointed in this team for how they came out flat and once again got killed in the 3rd quarter. The zebras were awful like always. How do you call a foul on OG tying his sneakers? But that's not why we lost. We allowed that bum Ausar Thompson, who plays like Jared Jeffries, to score 22 points all on dunks. Everything about this game sucked except for Mitch, who was great and played his heart out, and OG's defense. They came ready to play.

Same cannot be said for the rest of the team. And it starts with Thibs. We weren't ready to play. We came out like it was a game in mid January and not like it was a pivotal game five at home with a chance to advance. There was no sense of urgency and the turnovers were the proof. First play of the game was a shot clock violation. Knew right there what was coming. 6 total turnovers in that first quarter! Inexcusable!

Thibs has a bad game. I'm not calling for him to be fired but that's now two really badly coached games in this series. The offense looked putrid and much like it did in game two where KAT just stands there and does nothing. What happened to getting him the ball and finding him for threes? KAT only took 5 total shots in the second half! I DO NOT GET IT!

Brunson had probably his worst game as a Knick. It happens. He's human. I'm very disappointed but he's our guy so I will always have his back. I still would've liked to see him play with more urgency and fire. He just wasn't sharp at all with his passes and had a poor floor game. And that ankle keeps rolling which is getting really annoying. Either he has the worst luck ever or that sneaker company needs to be sued.

Bridges got going in the 4th quarter but I hated his game overall. He's just too relaxed out there and at times it doesn't even seem like he wants to be out there. I'm sick of Beasley and everyone clowning him and he doesn't retaliate. Again, I'm not asking for a brawl or for him to be Draymond Green but come on man! Stop getting trolled and punked!

As for Thibs not calling a timeout to get both Brunson and Hart back in, it was a dumb decision but I kind of understand it wanting to keep one more timeout. We could've just fouled Thompson to stop the clock and get them back in. It was 97-95 Detroit when they came out with about 3 minutes left and it became 103-97 with 27 secs left when they came back so it ended up costing us the game. But with 100% honesty I cannot 100% for sure say we would've won if they didn't come out. Detroit was the better team last night and this series is slowly proving we are pretty evenly matched and that's disappointing. A play here and there or a foul here and there and we honestly could've been eliminated at this point.

VDesai wrote:The only flaw in Mitch last night was the Knicks thinking he was iHart in the way they were passing it to him like he's an offensive hub. Unfortunately his hands keep getting progressively worse.

He was an absolute force last night. The way he defends and rebounds definitely shakes the Pistons. He's the one player who comes in who's physicality exceeds what the Pistons are giving you. Energy level was way better last night - guess he got over his illness. He was probably giving Bickerstaff flashbacks from the Cavs series.

I blame his teammates. Mikal seems like he's the biggest culprit and it seems he's too eager to play hot potato and pass the ball to a worse scorer in a worse position rather than sack up and try to score on a small guard.

Panos wrote:Also, why does every team have a sniper off the bench that can come in an light us up, but we've got nothing? Shamet was scoring at the end of the season, can he get a shot when no one else can throw it in the ocean???

Problem is in the few minutes Shamet has gotten in this series he's been awful at both ends. I would still give him another chance but we desperately need to add that sniper/scorer off the bench. And Deuce isn't it.

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Jesus - if that might work why is he suggesting that to the press and not the locker room.

Sounds so weak.