Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:My next question is was Thibs really good vs the Cavs or was it because the Cavs coach is that bad. We are doing the same things that we did from the Cavs but Spo has already countered it and we have nothing left.
Do the players have anything to do with the outcome of games?
Seems like it’s more just a chess match between coaches for you? coach just move players around board better and voila, team should win?
The playoffs are a constant arms race. The Cavs adjusted and then we adjusted to them by changing who set the picks. The Cavs could never figure out how to stop that. Well Spo figured that out game one. We have not had any adjustments since then. If I am missing something you can maybe point me to the adjustments Thibs has made after his first moves were countered. Just like teams look better than they are during the season when they hit a streak of below average teams. The same could have happened with our coach. If the Cavs coach had figured out how to counter having Hart and RJ giving the screens would Thibs have been able to counter that move? He has not yet this seires.
The guys need to make shots. That’s the adjustment.
Great. How did the coach help the players do that? Did he run plays to help them get easy shots? Did he make off ball movement to confuse or distract the defense? Constantly running Randle, Brunsons ISOs and hoping that players who barely touch the ball otherwise is in rhythm to make a shot is not a good offense. Like I said earlier the blame goes around but Thibs is not blameless with his uninspiring offense. I am still waiting for those creative offenive plays that only come out when both stars are injured.
This whole playoffs has turned into the trash ISO offense we run at the end of games. The same offense that made us one of the worst offenses in the league in the 4th. I am sorry ISO's with RJ and Randle will never be efficient over a large sample size. You guys can get blinded by their streaks of efficient play if you want. I am still waiting for plays that are called to get Grimes going for example. If you call them and he misses is one thing. To never even call them to give him a chance is on the coach. We saw something similar in the regular season. When McBride and Grimes become more ingrained in the offense and get more shots they shoot better. I wish they were able to just live off what pass off a double Randle gives them but it was obvious over the season that is not how they work. The times where grimes really broke out was when he was a part of the offense and not just a stand and wait for the pass the whole game guy. It is cool if you don't agree but it is something I talked about the whole season. Now instead of it happening only lake in the game it is the whole game.
You keep thinking and framing this as a chess match between coaches where the player really have limited impact on games outside of their defined role, that’s why I keep bringing up chess cause it exactly as you are describe: if the coach only made this move the Knicks would do better.
They are getting enough wide open shots, they are not making them. It’s pretty simple.
And the whole RJ Randle ISO thing? It’s called low IQ players, happened all season on and off but when you go up against good D, you don’t really get away with it; ongoing struggle for last 3 years and the players are reverting.
How dumb does RJ have to be to think he can post Jimmy ****ing Butler, right? That is definitely not in the playbook and yet there you have Butler throwing it back in his face on national TV as if RJ never read a scouting report before and didn’t get told a million times before. Or did you think this is what the coaching staff wants? I can’t tell
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