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Chandler
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1/27/2022  8:47 AM
If we don’t trade randle we need to get him away from the team for some extended time/ personal reasons. He is so into his own head right now and it’s making the whole starting unit play way way too tight.

He needs to get his head right.

That said I am hoping he’s headed to Sac for a pg

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1/27/2022  11:02 AM
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blkexec wrote:Well….the fans have spoken. Thibs has spoken by continuing to play our great FA additions…..now is time for Dolan into get off that guitar and talk some since into the FO making our typical bad trade. I just want to make room for our energy players to have meaningful mins. Cam looked decent beside that side step air ball. I hate that shot but it creates separation

Maybe I should audition for the band and get in Dolan’s ear.

Do not wake up Dolan. We are not that desperate.

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1/27/2022  12:21 PM
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:I'll go ahead and say it for all of us, Randle is a *****

I don't even care about him not speaking to the press, I'm even fine with players struggling or not being able to hit their shots,- it's this kind of s*** that annoys me:

It's every game- why does he think he doesn't have to bother with the in game huddles anymore? he's supposed to be the leader, but he's acting like he's retiring and is just counting down the days. He's got 4 more seasons left!!! I pray we have a trade lined up for when he becomes eligible because at least it would make sense of this complete mental check out, because if we haven't and he's acting like this and we're stuck with him, we are stuffed!

I mean what was so catastrophic this season that warrants this level of complete disengagement by him? He signed the contract extension after all the roster moves, so he must have been okay with that. Some fans boo'd him, some were awful when he had covid, and he was asked to stop forcing things all the time and share the ball. And that pushed him over the edge?! Apologies to him if he's got personal stuff going on, but man, this is infuriating to watch.

All true. I’ve seen a lot of this including at key points in the game. Not dealing well w adversity.

I'm guessing (without any substance behind it) that Randle knows he is getting shipped out Feb 3.

This would explain a lot. Both the disengagement and the ambivalence. Highly unprofessional if true though.

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1/27/2022  12:24 PM
I mean, look at this.

Kemba does his job. Randle somehow makes his own job much harder.

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1/27/2022  12:32 PM
The effort level is embarrassing

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1/27/2022  1:16 PM
martin wrote:The effort level is embarrassing

I'm at a point where if I'm Leon Rose, I send Randle home ala Marbury in 2008. Tell him we're moving on and will look to trade him in the next few weeks. I've had enough of this bum!

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1/27/2022  1:17 PM
How about this to pick up the spirits

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1/27/2022  1:20 PM
martin wrote:How about this to pick up the spirits

Hopefully the front office starts instructing Thibs to start playing the kids more once we come back from that road trip next month and the season is pretty much over.

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1/27/2022  1:20 PM
SergioNYK wrote:
martin wrote:How about this to pick up the spirits

Hopefully the front office starts instructing Thibs to start playing the kids more once we come back from that road trip next month and the season is pretty much over.

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1/27/2022  1:59 PM
martin wrote:
Chandler wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
martin wrote:I'll go ahead and say it for all of us, Randle is a *****

I don't even care about him not speaking to the press, I'm even fine with players struggling or not being able to hit their shots,- it's this kind of s*** that annoys me:

It's every game- why does he think he doesn't have to bother with the in game huddles anymore? he's supposed to be the leader, but he's acting like he's retiring and is just counting down the days. He's got 4 more seasons left!!! I pray we have a trade lined up for when he becomes eligible because at least it would make sense of this complete mental check out, because if we haven't and he's acting like this and we're stuck with him, we are stuffed!

I mean what was so catastrophic this season that warrants this level of complete disengagement by him? He signed the contract extension after all the roster moves, so he must have been okay with that. Some fans boo'd him, some were awful when he had covid, and he was asked to stop forcing things all the time and share the ball. And that pushed him over the edge?! Apologies to him if he's got personal stuff going on, but man, this is infuriating to watch.

All true. I’ve seen a lot of this including at key points in the game. Not dealing well w adversity.

I'm guessing (without any substance behind it) that Randle knows he is getting shipped out Feb 3.

That's what I'm hoping, because then it makes perfect sense. If it's not what's happening then it's really worrying!

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1/27/2022  7:34 PM
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1/27/2022  7:55 PM
martin wrote:Thread

The game was over the very second JR came back into the game in the middle of the second quarter. It made zero sense at the time considering how well RJ and the bench were doing. We went downhill immediately.

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Clean
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1/27/2022  9:07 PM
Why do I get so hype just for seeing players putting in effort. Those Obi and Grimes clips got me excited. Especially when Obi got looked off and instead of moping like Randle he pops out for a 3pter.
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1/27/2022  9:13 PM
Clean wrote:Why do I get so hype just for seeing players putting in effort. Those Obi and Grimes clips got me excited. Especially when Obi got looked off and instead of moping like Randle he pops out for a 3pter.

IMHO effort is a skill. Some guys push themselves to it, some guys just don't have it in them and have to be forced to do it when things aren't going right. Randle is one of them

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1/28/2022  4:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2022  4:26 AM
Randle has basically become Elfrid Payton - right down to the foul-faced, checked out attitude
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1/28/2022  5:22 AM

Thibs inability for change has did us another disservice. We have no idea how Kemaba and EF plays without Randle. How is it possible that they have only played 14 minutes together without Randle through out the whole season. That is basically the addition of time they probably spent waiting for a dead ball situation so they can check in. This might be the worst indictment on him not adjusting or trying something new. It would be our luck that we trade them for a bag of peanuts and it turns out they did not magically forget to play basketball and it was just Randle/Thibs the whole time. Remember just last season they had very good advance stats whenever they played with each other in Boston. Obviously their D was not great but their scoring was very good.

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1/28/2022  5:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/28/2022  5:55 AM
The same three problems the Knicks had in the post season are the same three problems the Knicks have now

Randle playing like crap
Thibs not even attempting to adjust to Randle playing like crap
No PG on the floor most the time when the Knicks have setting IQ on the bench

The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
martin
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1/28/2022  8:18 AM
Clean wrote:

Thibs inability for change has did us another disservice. We have no idea how Kemaba and EF plays without Randle. How is it possible that they have only played 14 minutes together without Randle through out the whole season. That is basically the addition of time they probably spent waiting for a dead ball situation so they can check in. This might be the worst indictment on him not adjusting or trying something new. It would be our luck that we trade them for a bag of peanuts and it turns out they did not magically forget to play basketball and it was just Randle/Thibs the whole time. Remember just last season they had very good advance stats whenever they played with each other in Boston. Obviously their D was not great but their scoring was very good.

Randle does play 35 minutes per game and that second unit does do well together and when they do well, which is like every game cause the SL sucks, you want to keep them in for longer?

I'm all for sitting Randle more but the above stats are not very revealing IMO

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