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TPercy
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6/6/2021  9:00 PM
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ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.

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6/6/2021  9:59 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/6/2021  10:01 PM
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

Considering we basically have two of their draft picks and they don’t really have any desirable player outside of Luka...... they are basically stuck until they decide to waive KP.

He doesn’t even have a good attitude and he sucks.

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6/6/2021  10:12 PM
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

Considering we basically have two of their draft picks and they don’t really have any desirable player outside of Luka...... they are basically stuck until they decide to waive KP.

He doesn’t even have a good attitude and he sucks.

I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

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6/7/2021  1:58 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2021  2:16 AM
TPercy wrote:I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

At this point, probably only if Dallas throws in another first round draft pick to make it worthwhile for another team to eat his salary. At $18-20m he would be a worthwhile risk, but not at $30m. Sadly, he has become the next Bargnani.

For all he is getting paid to be strictly a 3-point spot up shooter, he is not even elite at that, you would want a guy like that to shoot at least over 40% from long distance.

And the fact that Hardaway Sr. is now openly calling KP "a throw-in" in the trade with the Knicks certainly does not reflect lots of team cohesion over there in Dallas.

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6/7/2021  2:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2021  3:11 AM
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

Considering we basically have two of their draft picks and they don’t really have any desirable player outside of Luka...... they are basically stuck until they decide to waive KP.

He doesn’t even have a good attitude and he sucks.

I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

I could see the Kings doing something around Bagely for KP or the Celtics doing Kemba for KP

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6/7/2021  4:10 AM
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I could see the Kings doing something around Bagely for KP or the Celtics doing Kemba for KP

The only way to trade KP is to take on an even worse contract. Kemba on the Mavs is a terrible fit. How will he share the ball with Luka?

And if Sancto wants to be rid of Bagley so bad, why would they not simply let him walk for free? Is there something anyone sees that is holding KP back with Dallas?

How many on this thread would want the Knicks to take back KP and his contract for free, (or, say, just a low second round pick or an S&T for Frank) just blow our cap space for him. And stick with a Randle-KP-RJ core for the next 3 years?

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6/7/2021  4:20 AM
Come to think of it, I would not mind taking kemba off the Celtics' hands for free or maybe even finagle a low first rounder out of them. We have no better options for the next two years, and he is younger and thus more durable than Conley or Paul.
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6/7/2021  6:13 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:Come to think of it, I would not mind taking kemba off the Celtics' hands for free or maybe even finagle a low first rounder out of them. We have no better options for the next two years, and he is younger and thus more durable than Conley or Paul.

Kemba has bad knees. That is why the Celtics want him gone. Stay far away from that guy. It is the reason why he has been so inconsistent this year.

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6/7/2021  8:51 AM
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

KP has salary of $31M next year, $33M 2022-23, and player option of $36M for 2023.

When do you really think they will waive him and why would that make sense?

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6/7/2021  9:01 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:
TPercy wrote:I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

At this point, probably only if Dallas throws in another first round draft pick to make it worthwhile for another team to eat his salary. At $18-20m he would be a worthwhile risk, but not at $30m. Sadly, he has become the next Bargnani.

For all he is getting paid to be strictly a 3-point spot up shooter, he is not even elite at that, you would want a guy like that to shoot at least over 40% from long distance.

And the fact that Hardaway Sr. is now openly calling KP "a throw-in" in the trade with the Knicks certainly does not reflect lots of team cohesion over there in Dallas.

Maybe so, but unfortunately for Dallas they can’t trade a first until 2025. Only worthwhile pieces they have are Brunson, DFS, and maybe Maxi. Even without the pick like if I’m Detroit, Orlando, or even Sac I might just eat the cap space.

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6/7/2021  9:01 AM
ESOMKnicks wrote:Come to think of it, I would not mind taking kemba off the Celtics' hands for free or maybe even finagle a low first rounder out of them. We have no better options for the next two years, and he is younger and thus more durable than Conley or Paul.

Kemba is trash bro

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6/7/2021  9:03 AM
smackeddog wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

Considering we basically have two of their draft picks and they don’t really have any desirable player outside of Luka...... they are basically stuck until they decide to waive KP.

He doesn’t even have a good attitude and he sucks.

I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

I could see the Kings doing something around Bagely for KP or the Celtics doing Kemba for KP

Kemba I don’t see but Kings interest makes sense. Not sure if they want to pay Bagley + Holmes. Harrison Barnes would likely have to be included in that who is more valuable than KP but maybe if they threw in Brunson as well it could get done.

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6/7/2021  9:18 AM
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

Considering we basically have two of their draft picks and they don’t really have any desirable player outside of Luka...... they are basically stuck until they decide to waive KP.

He doesn’t even have a good attitude and he sucks.

I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

Many will disagree but KP is still a freak and hard to guard. Problem in Dallas is that it takes a certain type of star player to be second fiddle to such a ball dominant franchise player. Especially with a guy like Luca who is one of the best players in the league and who is so aggressive looking for his shot. As we see with TH, spot up shooters who sit in the corner do much better playing with him. Just do not think KP is best used as just a spacer. I think several teams would be interested in putting KP in a different role. Problem is KPs contract.

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6/7/2021  9:23 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/7/2021  2:16 PM
Clean wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Hawks picking up right where they left off in round 1.

Phew, maybe it wasn’t just us!

I was about to say the same thing. If the Hawks are going to score 42 in a quarter vs the sixers maybe our defense was still good. We just might have under estimated how good their offense is.

Ya mean there was a possibility that Knick fans overreacted and looked to throw the baby out with the bath water? Nah....

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6/7/2021  9:42 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:If I'm a Detroit fan and watching this, I'm calling for an investigation into Blake Griffin in the off-season.

An investigation into what? A player does not want to risk worsening an injury for a bunch of D leaguers getting their asses handed to them on a nightly basis? Guilty!

Speaking on the Nets. Has anyone noticed how KD has broken down and Kyrie has been a team cancer?
Well at least the Harden is fat and out of shape has proven to be true.

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6/7/2021  9:46 AM
That player option for 36mil is often under reported. I heard a podcast cited his contract has only 74mm left over two years. Doubt he walks from that 36mm player option.

His comments “its always something” is so off base publically. The optics just looks bad. If you think your a star then just talk like one. This embattled victim thing is a bad look. He can say his leg has slowed him down and he looks forward to getting stronger.

That they finished with as good a record as they did and took Clips to 7 is not really awful. Luka is incredible but physically his body does not rate as good as his talents and he gets tired. He is a bit slow but fundamentally superior. I doubt he’ll ever morph into a Lebron, Kawahi or Manu type body. thats not who he is.

KP is also flawed wit arrogance, Anemic condition, no ass core composition and a **** face attitude.

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6/7/2021  3:32 PM
TPercy wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
TPercy wrote:
wargames wrote:
TPercy wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
ToddTT wrote:Luka is ridiculous. If they ever pair him up with another star, watch out.

Luka and Coach Carlisle dragged Dallas into the 1st round 7th game.

I think it might be a little early to call it but it may be in Mavs interest to completely offload KP’s contract.


I think they waive him after next season. His contract is so large it’s still just too soon to eat it.

Considering we basically have two of their draft picks and they don’t really have any desirable player outside of Luka...... they are basically stuck until they decide to waive KP.

He doesn’t even have a good attitude and he sucks.

I feel like there’s gotta be a team who’d be willing to take another look at KP. His career isn’t over but he’s got a LOT of work to do.

I could see the Kings doing something around Bagely for KP or the Celtics doing Kemba for KP

Kemba I don’t see but Kings interest makes sense. Not sure if they want to pay Bagley + Holmes. Harrison Barnes would likely have to be included in that who is more valuable than KP but maybe if they threw in Brunson as well it could get done.

Kemba for KP is switching bad contracts- Kemba finishes a year earlier for Dallas.

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6/7/2021  5:35 PM
TPercy wrote:
ESOMKnicks wrote:Come to think of it, I would not mind taking kemba off the Celtics' hands for free or maybe even finagle a low first rounder out of them. We have no better options for the next two years, and he is younger and thus more durable than Conley or Paul.

Kemba is trash bro

Yeah, seems like it. Maybe not worth it even if we were to get a first round pick. Glad we did not sign him a couple of years ago. He was definitely the odd K out that off-season.

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6/7/2021  10:19 PM
Wonder what Bucks front office is thinking watching their team lose by almost 50.
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6/7/2021  10:49 PM
Watching Middleton play playoff basketball is a case study and why you don't sign Julius Randall to a long-term contract.
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