HofstraBBall wrote:No Westbrook, Beal, Bertans, Napier etc. Result..Nets put up 68 in first half. Advdija looks like a very good shooter and good IQ.

It'll be funny to see how the media cover the Nets- they all couldn't wait to continue their onlslaught of deferential coverage, and use their rise to trash the Knicks at every opportunity, but now Kyrie has publicly declared them pawns who aren't worth of him, it'll be embarrassing to watch them heap praise on players that think they're so contemptable- must be very conflicting for them

Nalod wrote:I thought he meant “Prawns”.........
Kyrie is a trip. He is cut from the “Rodman-Artest-quirky” talented cloth. I love watching him play to be quite frank. Its a rare ability to move like that and for most PG’s its just gone by age 30. As for what comes out of his mouth? Thats a whole other game.
Seems harmless. Mostly hurts his reputation. He is irrelevant. He is not a bad dude actually but he really over states his presence in the room. He is not our problem until he lights us up. And boy oh boy those boys will want to embarrass their cross town foes!

Thing is, I really liked Artest and Rodman, where as I don’t like Kyrie- never got the impression Artest and Rodman thought they were better than other people, whereas Kyrie does have the air of an aristocrat or something, or some sort of pretentious ‘artist’- I struggle with humorless people like that

smackeddog wrote:

Nalod wrote:I thought he meant “Prawns”.........
Kyrie is a trip. He is cut from the “Rodman-Artest-quirky” talented cloth. I love watching him play to be quite frank. Its a rare ability to move like that and for most PG’s its just gone by age 30. As for what comes out of his mouth? Thats a whole other game.
Seems harmless. Mostly hurts his reputation. He is irrelevant. He is not a bad dude actually but he really over states his presence in the room. He is not our problem until he lights us up. And boy oh boy those boys will want to embarrass their cross town foes!

Thing is, I really liked Artest and Rodman, where as I don’t like Kyrie- never got the impression Artest and Rodman thought they were better than other people, whereas Kyrie does have the air of an aristocrat or something, or some sort of pretentious ‘artist’- I struggle with humorless people like that

I always respected Rodman and Artests game. But if you think about it Dennis at the time of his antics was “controversial” and we did not understand him. He came off very selfish and if you put yourself above others then inflated self importance is symptomatic. Artest could not control his emotions and was a tech machine, brawler, and the migraines at playoff time very unfortunate for his team. They could not count on him.
He could not keep it together and thats selfish.
Over time we come to understand both of them, their problems, and their personalities. The body of their work and hindsight gives us perspective. Ron was very likable once he opened up. He was off his rocker but “lovable”.
Kyrie has massively inflated ego and is an *******. The ego thing is nothing new. Lots of great ones have it. Iversion and Kobe were not easy prior to age 30 but they kept it on the court. Kyrie seems to think his relevance transcends beyond the court. It does not. LIke Dennis and Ron I see a personality disorder and maybe some bipolar. Kyrie seems to cry out that was should treat his fragile humanity with more respect. That comes off really bad as if he is mistreated, and thus why we see him as self Elite. Kyrie is a very talented player first and foremost. He seems to be crying out for help or acceptance as an artist who needs sympathy.

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Good for him. That should take away a huge distraction from the team.

Greed has no bounds

and i'm not saying he's not worth it but given a cap this will hurt the team. Sometimes players need to sacrifice parts of their game or minutes for the betterment of the team; other times team would be better if they didn't demand every nickel.

Chandler wrote:best days of the Bucks are now behind them

Greed has no bounds

and i'm not saying he's not worth it but given a cap this will hurt the team. Sometimes players need to sacrifice parts of their game or minutes for the betterment of the team; other times team would be better if they didn't demand every nickel.

Yeah -- can we look into the future and see what this contract will be in say 3 years? Is it Westbrook, Wall, CP3 again?

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:best days of the Bucks are now behind them

Greed has no bounds

and i'm not saying he's not worth it but given a cap this will hurt the team. Sometimes players need to sacrifice parts of their game or minutes for the betterment of the team; other times team would be better if they didn't demand every nickel.

so realistically the Bucks are over the cap for the time being. So how much could Giannis give up that would satisfy any betterment of the team? It's all about the OWNER now and how much they are willing to go over the luxury tax to win and also the GM to manage the cap in other ways

they made some minor off season moves, one which didn't pan out. so unless they draft and/or develop they're not getting better with that albatross

when you consider the type of player those multiple #1's/swaps netted, jrue is probably the worst of that bunch. george, cp3, westbrook - these guys were all nba type players - jrue is a borderline all star and imho, not that huge an upgrade over bledsoe but time will tell.

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Hope he proves me wrong and has a successful career.

djsunyc wrote:i think this is the last year of the bucks window to make the finals. jrue is a UFA and for what they gave up to get him, he's gonna get $25-30 mil a year also so they are tied into the jrue + midds + giannis trio with basically zero avenue to get help. they are quite thin on the bench now too. of course that goes out with window if giannis can actually be a true #1 playoff option and score iso down the stretch of games - then they can win chips a few times...but i'm not holding my breath on that one.

when you consider the type of player those multiple #1's/swaps netted, jrue is probably the worst of that bunch. george, cp3, westbrook - these guys were all nba type players - jrue is a borderline all star and imho, not that huge an upgrade over bledsoe but time will tell.

good point and bledsoe was no chump. i thought it was a huge gamble even when they had bogdanovoch. they were still largely vulnerable as they were last year. either Giannis gets hurt, slowed or confused and that crash in and kick out has trouble in a series against a good team

sure they'd kick our ass even if we were allowed a 6th guy on the court, but we're talking smart teams like raptors, celts, miami