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fishmike
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12/8/2015  9:28 AM
so all the owners complained and the NBA sticks Jerry C on the scene. Funny. Probably best scenario. Hinkie hasnt made one good move. Losing has been his only move. Time to build a team, good for Phili.
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12/8/2015  9:52 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:good move. Not sure if hinkie was capable enough for phase 2. He sure left Jerry C a crap load of assets to work with.

Have a feeling that the proper use of those assets is something the guys above Hinkie are really worried about more than anything else.

No more delayed gratification and waiting for the "perfect wave" in terms of using the many draft picks Hinkie has accrued...I think Colangelo is there to force the issue and get things done.

We will see.

Hey Ill give them Carmelo Anthony for their second lottery pick this year a 2017 1# rounder 2 # 2s Richaun Holmes and Robert Covington

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12/8/2015  9:57 AM
fishmike wrote:so all the owners complained and the NBA sticks Jerry C on the scene. Funny. Probably best scenario. Hinkie hasnt made one good move. Losing has been his only move. Time to build a team, good for Phili.

Jerry in a wheel chair yet? Hinkie's concept is OK but the problem is he is drafting poorly taking on defective bigs. Noel is not special (Yet) and Embiid has been on the shelf. I do give them credit for trading MCW and being decisive when value was returned in a trade.

LIke the Mcdyess trade, I give them credit but its a results league and as discussed before it was a matter of time until the league stepped in as Philly as a visiting team must be drawing poorly and not a good time. Sure its nice to see the home team win but I hate blowouts when one team is pathetic. I dig a good contest even if my team loses.

Jerry needs to get Calderone to run the point and calm his young team down!!!!! We need a pick. Its a match made in heaven!!!!

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12/8/2015  10:24 AM
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WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:good move. Not sure if hinkie was capable enough for phase 2. He sure left Jerry C a crap load of assets to work with.

Have a feeling that the proper use of those assets is something the guys above Hinkie are really worried about more than anything else.

No more delayed gratification and waiting for the "perfect wave" in terms of using the many draft picks Hinkie has accrued...I think Colangelo is there to force the issue and get things done.

We will see.

Hey Ill give them Carmelo Anthony for their second lottery pick this year a 2017 1# rounder 2 # 2s Richaun Holmes and Robert Covington

and a billion in cash

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  10:25 AM
fishmike wrote:so all the owners complained and the NBA sticks Jerry C on the scene. Funny. Probably best scenario. Hinkie hasnt made one good move. Losing has been his only move. Time to build a team, good for Phili.

so you reviewed all his transaction (some brilliant) and you are stating that he did not make one good move?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  1:13 PM

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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12/8/2015  1:16 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  1:19 PM
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:so all the owners complained and the NBA sticks Jerry C on the scene. Funny. Probably best scenario. Hinkie hasnt made one good move. Losing has been his only move. Time to build a team, good for Phili.

so you reviewed all his transaction (some brilliant) and you are stating that he did not make one good move?

Isiah made some good moves also. Shall we hash those out? Hinkie is a disgusting GM, and its nice to see someone who understands athletes, teams and team building taking a sr. role in that franchise.
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12/8/2015  1:20 PM
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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12/8/2015  1:27 PM
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

LMFAO ... was speaking about what philly is thinking as was Walt.

I ain't no philly fan-atic. I like fun story lines. Philly is gonna get boring now.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  1:33 PM
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

LMFAO ... was speaking about what philly is thinking as was Walt.

I ain't no philly fan-atic. I like fun story lines. Philly is gonna get boring now.

Its been boring. Building a team is interesting.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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12/8/2015  1:37 PM
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

LMFAO ... was speaking about what philly is thinking as was Walt.

I ain't no philly fan-atic. I like fun story lines. Philly is gonna get boring now.

Its been boring. Building a team is interesting.

hasn't been boring ... nobody talked more about the sixers than in the last couple of years.

nobody cared about the sixers winning 30 games for 30 years. I really miss spencer hawes jrue holliday and thaddeus young playing inspired ball.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  1:49 PM
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

LMFAO ... was speaking about what philly is thinking as was Walt.

I ain't no philly fan-atic. I like fun story lines. Philly is gonna get boring now.

Its been boring. Building a team is interesting.

Maybe they now start to dig the foundation for a good franchise.

Some, like myself, dislike a guy like Hinkie because we see a pretentiousness in "The Process," or perhaps we are jealous because we see him squandering the draft picks he's acquired while we have given up so many of ours and wish we had some...

...but at some point, especially if Colangelo has success, our dislike for Hinkie might turn to hate if the Sixers actually start to draft real players and build a real team that can compete at a high level for many years.

Hinkie seems to be good with the foreplay...not so good with finishing things. Colangelo was brought in as finisher.

EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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12/8/2015  1:53 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

LMFAO ... was speaking about what philly is thinking as was Walt.

I ain't no philly fan-atic. I like fun story lines. Philly is gonna get boring now.

Its been boring. Building a team is interesting.

Maybe they now start to dig the foundation for a good franchise.

Some, like myself, dislike a guy like Hinkie because we see a pretentiousness in "The Process," or perhaps we are jealous because we see him squandering the draft picks he's acquired while we have given up so many of ours and wish we had some...

...but at some point, especially if Colangelo has success, our dislike for Hinkie might turn to hate if the Sixers actually start to draft real players and build a real team that can compete at a high level for many years.

Hinkie seems to be good with the foreplay...not so good with finishing things. Colangelo was brought in as finisher.

yea its actually scary, because if they draft well, and Colangelo most likely will, and they sign a couple guys they could really set themselves up. Hinkie thinks he's so smart, but not smart enough to keep the keys from getting yanked away
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the even more disgusting thing (for philly fans, but i don't feel bad for them) is that their owner was more than happy to let this rage on. i'd be disgusted if i were them.
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12/8/2015  3:04 PM
fishmike wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:

philly.com
76ers hire Jerry Colangelo to be chairman of basketball operations
Keith Pompey

Posted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 7:55 AM

The 76ers got their credibility back.

The franchise introduced Hall of Famer Jerry Colangelo as chairman of basketball operations on Monday evening.

"I think he will be very helpful for us," general manager Sam Hinkie said. "I think he can provide open doors. I think he can provide new experiences to me and to ownership. I'll take all the advice he'll give me."

But the biggest question is what does Colangelo's hire mean to Hinkie's longevity with the franchise. The Sixers are saying all the right things about how Hinkie will continue to run the day-to-day operations. But this hire reduces his power.

"There's a new sheriff in town," said an NBA executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

League executives believe this move is admittance by the Sixers ownership group that the process is not working. As a result, there's a sense that the move means that Hinkie will ultimately lose some of his power.

"He's coming here on his own terms," another NBA executive said of Colangelo.

Another league executive expects Colangelo to make major changes because "his reputation is on the line."

The league executives were wondering if Colangelo would get the Sixers ownership group to hire his son, Bryan, into a high-ranking front office position. Bryan had general manager stints with the Toronto Raptors and Phoenix Suns.

"To be explicitly clear, I continue to have confidence in Sam," co-managing owner Josh Harris said. "He will continue in his current role, leading us with the day-to-day basketball operations. More important, I want him in the position. Jerry in this new role will be an invaluable resource to help all of us."

Colangelo said Hinkie "will make the call on the final decision. But that's after a lot of collaboration and decision" with Colangelo and the ownership group.

The Sixers (1-21) are in the midst of their third consecutive season of sacrificing wins with the hope of securing top draft picks in the NBA draft. In the process, they have become the laughingstock of the NBA while compiling a 38-148 record since Hinkie was hired in May, 2013.

Several off-the-court incidents involving rookie Jahlil Okafor were also damaging to the franchise's image.

The center returned to action Monday against the Spurs after being suspended for the last two games after a video surfaced Wednesday of him getting into a second fight with a heckler on a Boston street in the early hours of Nov. 26.

Colangelo will evaluate things before giving his input on draft picks, free agency, and building a better culture.

"I'm here to assist in areas where I can already see things that I want to pass on to Sam," he said of having a veteran presence for young players. "And these aren't things that he hasn't already thought about. But when he hears them from me, he's hearing it from a different perspective and hopefully some of things are going to be addressed."

Colangelo is currently the chairman of the board of directors for USA basketball. The 76-year-old formerly owned the Suns, the Arizona Diamondbacks of Major League Baseball, the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA, the Arizona Sandsharks of the Continental Indoor Soccer League, and Arizona Rattlers of the Arena Football League.

The Hall of Famer began his career with the Chicago Bulls, working as the marketing director, scout and assistant to the team president.

He left the Bulls in 1968 with just $200 in his wallet to become the first general manager of the then expansion Suns. Colangelo had two stints as the Suns coach in the 1970s. In 1987, he put together a group that bought that team. Colangelo also held the posts of chief executive officer, managing general partner and president before selling the team in 2004.

"I think opportunities like this are rare, where you get somebody with his experience that will give his time and expertise to help as an entire organization grow is rare," coach Brett Brown said. "To everyone's credit, we made it happen.

"So you sort of wake up this morning with a real bounce, a real excitement, and what the future can bring with him on board."

This move also takes some of the burden off Brown, who in addition to coaching, served as the Sixers spokesperson.

It also helps with public reception.

The Sixers were not a desired destination for free agents. There were even some draft picks, who didn't want to play for the franchise. Word around the league was that very few players would want to come to Philadelphia until they hired a well-respected basketball mind.

They introduced that person on Monday.

"He's a man of wisdom, of incredible, I think class," said Brown, who coached Australia in the 2012 London Olympics. "I saw him a lot in London when we coached against the United States. I know that my old boss [San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich] probably wouldn't have taken the United States [coaching] job if it weren't for Mr. Colangelo.

"All of those things come to my mind when you say, all of a sudden he is a Philadelphia 76er. This is a good day."

When I read this article I think of a situation where a young player gets a great contract, comes into a lot of $$, starts losing it through stupidity and foolishness, and then hires a professional money manager to install some financial discipline and help him maximize the utilization of his financial assets.

This move is clearly a sign that the Hinkie mystique might be starting to fade.

or that Hinkie got us this war chest but we are not sure that he knows how to spend it.

LMFAO ... was speaking about what philly is thinking as was Walt.

I ain't no philly fan-atic. I like fun story lines. Philly is gonna get boring now.

Its been boring. Building a team is interesting.

Maybe they now start to dig the foundation for a good franchise.

Some, like myself, dislike a guy like Hinkie because we see a pretentiousness in "The Process," or perhaps we are jealous because we see him squandering the draft picks he's acquired while we have given up so many of ours and wish we had some...

...but at some point, especially if Colangelo has success, our dislike for Hinkie might turn to hate if the Sixers actually start to draft real players and build a real team that can compete at a high level for many years.

Hinkie seems to be good with the foreplay...not so good with finishing things. Colangelo was brought in as finisher.

yea its actually scary, because if they draft well, and Colangelo most likely will, and they sign a couple guys they could really set themselves up. Hinkie thinks he's so smart, but not smart enough to keep the keys from getting yanked away

who cares about Hinkie ... how about Philly? Are they smart? They used a guy who knew how to fills the cupboard with lots of shiny jewels but perhaps not a good spender or a willing one and now they put in a guy who knows how to manage the next phase. This is the point. I always said that if Hinkie gets hit by a bus, has he put the next guy in a position to succeed?

Hinkie is like my cheap jewish uncle who amassed and amassed but needed to hire an italian to help him spend/invest his money

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  3:05 PM
nyk4ever wrote:the even more disgusting thing (for philly fans, but i don't feel bad for them) is that their owner was more than happy to let this rage on. i'd be disgusted if i were them.

but they are not disgusted and were not as of a recent poll. We should not speak for them.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  3:06 PM
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:the even more disgusting thing (for philly fans, but i don't feel bad for them) is that their owner was more than happy to let this rage on. i'd be disgusted if i were them.

but they are not disgusted and were not as of a recent poll. We should not speak for them.

your hard on for hinkie is ridiculous. no sports team should advocate the losing that has gone on in philly over the last few years under hinkie. in the end, it's bad for business and thankfully the rest of the owners can see that.

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12/8/2015  3:09 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
mreinman wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:the even more disgusting thing (for philly fans, but i don't feel bad for them) is that their owner was more than happy to let this rage on. i'd be disgusted if i were them.

but they are not disgusted and were not as of a recent poll. We should not speak for them.

your hard on for hinkie is ridiculous. no sports team should advocate the losing that has gone on in philly over the last few years under hinkie. in the end, it's bad for business and thankfully the rest of the owners can see that.

hard on ... lol

its bad for business for the rest of the owners? Phuck the rest of the owners.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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12/8/2015  3:20 PM
Once again, its not all on Hinkie. The owner is culpable. The owner is almost always the one who sets the agenda.
In this case, the league is sending in "the wolf" to clean it up and make recommendations. The problem might not be the plan, but the long term execution. To do it after a few weeks in to the season tells me its the other 29 owners who are really not cool with how things are run.

More to a franchise than just the roster. I think as well the fact Oka4 was raging in the streets and lucky he was not shot in some stupid exchange. Oka4 is a $100 million dollar asset both to himself and to the team.
Something is wrong.

They have a lot of picks coming their way and the reality is they just might not confidence in the process and at this moment in time those picks are coming and have to decide on some things. Good move by them.

Hinkie's Sixers: Bad Plan, Bad Execution, or both?

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