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Nalod
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7/8/2014  6:26 PM
smackeddog wrote:Nets have given up on Blatche, he's now speaking to the Raptors

He wants to be paid even if he is getting still his Wiz money, about 8mm if memory serves me.

With Bropez and Plumlee they really don't need 4 centers with Garnett. Mirza can be a stretch 4 in some spots with Plum in the middle. From what I saw in the playoffs Blatche didn't elevate his game and looked tired as the season went on. When focused he got game.
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7/8/2014  9:09 PM
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Nets have given up on Blatche, he's now speaking to the Raptors

He wants to be paid even if he is getting still his Wiz money, about 8mm if memory serves me.

With Bropez and Plumlee they really don't need 4 centers with Garnett. Mirza can be a stretch 4 in some spots with Plum in the middle. From what I saw in the playoffs Blatche didn't elevate his game and looked tired as the season went on. When focused he got game.


Do they have his bird rights? They are using their mme to bring over Bogan.
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7/9/2014  8:44 AM
Stat and Shump to Philly.....

Can we dump Bargnani to Milwaukee???

Why we do that? Kidd wants to dilute the importance of the Nets. Bigger the knicks, the smaller the Nets. All ex coaches want their old teams to do worse in their absence.

I know its petty and the Owner would have to be on board with it. Bargnani and Thaianiss. They can 2 Greek Freak.

You don't get Lebron here for nothing.

PapaBear says: You dreaming!
Nalod knows what he saying, its a pipe dream but what nalod knows is until there is an announcement of any official capacity there is dialog and the intrigue and conspiracy can be played with.

If Phil can do that can we can build a statue of him.

Nalod lays low odds of this coming to fruition. Relax.
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7/9/2014  9:31 AM
can someone please explain to me how and why Gordon Hayward got a maxi?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/9/2014  9:40 AM
mreinman wrote:can someone please explain to me how and why Gordon Hayward got a maxi?

Just to be clear. His max contract is ~15M vs others whose max is in the 20M range. Don't know much about him.

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7/9/2014  10:04 AM
mreinman wrote:can someone please explain to me how and why Gordon Hayward got a maxi?

He's the white Paul George!

In all seriousness, I remember him being hyped as a Paul George clone who was flying under the radar. I dont see it, but I guess at the ~$12-$14 mil max that younger players get Utah thinks he'll develop further. He's definitely a nice player but I agree he isn't worth the max. But what do I know?
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7/9/2014  10:16 AM
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Nalod wrote:For all its worth, Im hooked and very interested in the "lastest developments".

The deal is, the more eyeballs to sites the more ad revenue is generated.

ESPN loves this stuff because we eat it up!!!!

I check Hoopshype frequently these days.

it's true. i'm embarassed how often im checking twitter. i've added a handful of nba media people to follow in the last two weeks too. i'm eating this sht up and loving hating every second of it.

what's twitter?

I listen to Mike Francessa on the radio. He's a genius.
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7/9/2014  10:21 AM
Andrew wrote:
mreinman wrote:can someone please explain to me how and why Gordon Hayward got a maxi?

Just to be clear. His max contract is ~15M vs others whose max is in the 20M range. Don't know much about him.

Yeah - still seems insane. And, he shot like crap last year.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/9/2014  10:46 AM
Looks like Lebron to Cleveland- the Cavs have just traded Jarrett Jack and Sergey Karasev to Nets, Tyler Zeller, Marcus Thornton to C's as well as a first. They would be absolute moron's to do that without some sort of guarantee from Lebron.
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7/9/2014  10:47 AM
mreinman wrote:can someone please explain to me how and why Gordon Hayward got a maxi?

He's the new Dunleavy Jr! Remember that ridiculous contract he got from Golden State- this is history repeating itself.
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7/9/2014  10:55 AM
Have to wonder if the Celtics take some of their first round picks and make a move for Love
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7/9/2014  10:57 AM
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Nets have given up on Blatche, he's now speaking to the Raptors

He wants to be paid even if he is getting still his Wiz money, about 8mm if memory serves me.

With Bropez and Plumlee they really don't need 4 centers with Garnett. Mirza can be a stretch 4 in some spots with Plum in the middle. From what I saw in the playoffs Blatche didn't elevate his game and looked tired as the season went on. When focused he got game.

Never knew they basically suspended him in December for conditioning issues and not being prepared for games.
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7/9/2014  10:58 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Have to wonder if the Celtics take some of their first round picks and make a move for Love

That's what I thought- they have picks galore now that they can offer the Twolves. Even if they don't trade for him, they still have a tonne of picks.
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7/9/2014  11:03 AM
smackeddog wrote:
Nalod wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Nets have given up on Blatche, he's now speaking to the Raptors

He wants to be paid even if he is getting still his Wiz money, about 8mm if memory serves me.

With Bropez and Plumlee they really don't need 4 centers with Garnett. Mirza can be a stretch 4 in some spots with Plum in the middle. From what I saw in the playoffs Blatche didn't elevate his game and looked tired as the season went on. When focused he got game.

Never knew they basically suspended him in December for conditioning issues and not being prepared for games.

From a distance he seems like a troubled guy. He was stabbed in Syracuse, had a girl raped in his hotel room on his birthday, organized some sort of weekly strip club visit thing in Washington and was amnestied despite being a young guy with a ton of talent.
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7/9/2014  11:05 AM
Haywood's max is like 4 yrs, 63mil.

Not 90mil, not MeloMax 130mil.

How does that happen? Well, there are stars, and there are players who are progressing who are really good.
And if you want to get them via free agency, you have to offer more than MAYBE the restricted team that holds his rights is willing to go.
They can match.

IF Haywood thinks the market will be higher next year and not afraid of injury, he don't have to sign anything and be unrestrcited. Really, its a good system unless the teams are dumb.
Like knicks were.
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7/9/2014  11:22 AM
Im afraid while it would make Melo happy and starphuchers moan in delight (me included) the reality is the price to pay for dumping to get Lebron would thin us out. While Melo is an upgrade over bosh or wade im not sure he is an upgrade of "Both" and we get real small after Dalembert. Phil would have to work more jedi to round out the roster.

If East coast teams were smart, they'd help keep Lebron from Cleveland as they could build a juggernaut with their assets.

How? Philly can help us and figure our reign would be done as theirs begins. Don't take Shump or THJ for Amare Dump.

Chicago should be worried as it could C.ock block their run. Offer us assets and sign and trade with us for Melo. What can Bulls do to keep Lebron in Miami? Nalod can't figure that one out.

Teams don't just think about themselves, they have to consider who can do what.

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7/9/2014  11:28 AM
Nalod wrote:Haywood's max is like 4 yrs, 63mil.

Not 90mil, not MeloMax 130mil.

How does that happen? Well, there are stars, and there are players who are progressing who are really good.
And if you want to get them via free agency, you have to offer more than MAYBE the restricted team that holds his rights is willing to go.
They can match.

IF Haywood thinks the market will be higher next year and not afraid of injury, he don't have to sign anything and be unrestrcited. Really, its a good system unless the teams are dumb.
Like knicks were.

Utah could have had hem for like $10M or so but rolled the dice and loss. What is weird is he had a terrible year shooting the ball.
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7/9/2014  11:34 AM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt · 3h
BKN also getting younger, w/Karasev (20), Markel Brown (22), Bogdanovic (25) added to roster. Plumlee 24, Lopez 26. And Jack is only 30.

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7/9/2014  11:37 AM
looks like NJ is sick of DWil
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/9/2014  11:40 AM
mreinman wrote:looks like NJ is sick of DWil
Didn't Deron ask for a trade at the end of the year?
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