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what else can melo do?! 44 pts, 9 boards?
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fishmike
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2/28/2014  5:10 PM
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:not sure what that link is too.. but are you hitting F5 every 30 seconds?

Is it a photo of your victory parade? Making love to DK in his mom's basement?

Did you get your "I defeated fishmike and Melo sucks" tatoo yet? Ill fund that if you want... I think its a fair pennance to pay for my defeat!

the reason why melo has failed to accomplish anything of note is that he overrates himself and is overrated by many. if his strengths can be harnessed that is one thing, but in order for that to happen he has to step aside and be put in his proper role on a team is a second-and-a-half banana.

but correcting his weaknesses is another matter entirely, and any team he plays on he will drag down because of those weaknesses. that is why his teams always underachieve.

he made a fatal error when he went after money and wanted to be traded, and the error was based not merely on good old greed but, again, not knowing his own limitations. a man's got to know his limitations.

so while you want to go the sardonic route the truth of the matter remains.

Earlier, you stated that Melo drags down everyone that he plays with......

Did you Know that Billups posted his career high in Pts (19.5) while playing with Melo? Not to mention was a serious MVP candidate playing along side Melo?

Did you know that Iverson posted a career high in FG% @ (46%) while playing alongside Melo?

Did you know that Kenyon Martin posted career highs in FG % of ( 50%, 51%, 54%, and 49%) while playing along side Melo? and get this, his fg% was higher playing with Melo than it was playing with (the real Knicks MVP of last season) J Kidd while with the Nets?

Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm

his best season was with billups where his ratio of usage to assist rate was 1.74:1. this is the kind of advanced stat that shows when melo is most effective in spite of his many flaws.

the following season that ratio leapt up to 2.1:1 and guess what happened?

with iverson that ratio was 1.87:1 for the regular season but then skyrocketed against the lakers and guess what happened?

you need to look more closely at this ratio and see how well it tracks with his success. it is eye-opening.

just a friendly suggestion.

see? I knew it! Bang!
This is great. I love being on this side. Its like being a Heat fan. Now I always win AND get all the calls. Put that in your pipe ad smoke it their mr uptown.

Not sure if you guys caught any of the halftime show.. during the Heat game. Stupid Charles Barley said its a joy to watch Melo play but the rest of the Knicks are awful. However, Ernie quickly set chubby Charles straight and let him know that he really wasnt playing that well, he was only 1.74:1.4

However Kenny said more like 2.4:1.2!

Then CWebb dropped the bomb.... dudes more like 4:20-3.14!

So anyway we can see that Melo sucks here with this examples.

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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RonRon
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3/1/2014  1:02 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/1/2014  1:06 AM
How about be a leader?
How about make other's around him better?
What numbers did Lin produce during his run, what talent did he have around him?

Most importantly WE PLAYED TEAM BALL and WON

People keep deferring blame on STAT, Chandler, Felton, etc

What was the salary of the players that Jeremy Lin played with?
It is NOT about what stats 1 player produces, it is about HOW he does it, and how the ENTIRE TEAM does...
Why were we a TOP DEFENSIVE team, highly efficient team, and had great ball movement/player movement during that stretch?

Melo vs Lin's IMPACT of the game
------------------------------------------
Simply put, Jeremy Lin is a better leader/general and initiates the OFFENSE much better than Melo (Melo is much more talented just not nearly as efficient)
He was able to get his team involved, getting the best out of them, he was able to get the crowed involved, feeding of their energy
Players like Chandler, Jeffries, Novak, Fields all looked like very good players with him and look like crapped when Melo initiates the offense

Farmer dropped 30pts today, should we sign him for 5m because of it?

IronWillGiroud
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3/1/2014  1:22 AM
RonRon wrote:How about be a leader?
How about make other's around him better?
What numbers did Lin produce during his run, what talent did he have around him?

Most importantly WE PLAYED TEAM BALL and WON

People keep deferring blame on STAT, Chandler, Felton, etc

What was the salary of the players that Jeremy Lin played with?
It is NOT about what stats 1 player produces, it is about HOW he does it, and how the ENTIRE TEAM does...
Why were we a TOP DEFENSIVE team, highly efficient team, and had great ball movement/player movement during that stretch?

Melo vs Lin's IMPACT of the game
------------------------------------------
Simply put, Jeremy Lin is a better leader/general and initiates the OFFENSE much better than Melo (Melo is much more talented just not nearly as efficient)
He was able to get his team involved, getting the best out of them, he was able to get the crowed involved, feeding of their energy
Players like Chandler, Jeffries, Novak, Fields all looked like very good players with him and look like crapped when Melo initiates the offense

Farmer dropped 30pts today, should we sign him for 5m because of it?

I'll never forget lim sanity

The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
IronWillGiroud
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3/1/2014  1:22 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
RonRon wrote:How about be a leader?
How about make other's around him better?
What numbers did Lin produce during his run, what talent did he have around him?

Most importantly WE PLAYED TEAM BALL and WON

People keep deferring blame on STAT, Chandler, Felton, etc

What was the salary of the players that Jeremy Lin played with?
It is NOT about what stats 1 player produces, it is about HOW he does it, and how the ENTIRE TEAM does...
Why were we a TOP DEFENSIVE team, highly efficient team, and had great ball movement/player movement during that stretch?

Melo vs Lin's IMPACT of the game
------------------------------------------
Simply put, Jeremy Lin is a better leader/general and initiates the OFFENSE much better than Melo (Melo is much more talented just not nearly as efficient)
He was able to get his team involved, getting the best out of them, he was able to get the crowed involved, feeding of their energy
Players like Chandler, Jeffries, Novak, Fields all looked like very good players with him and look like crapped when Melo initiates the offense

Farmer dropped 30pts today, should we sign him for 5m because of it?

I'll never forget lim sanity

Linsanity

The Will, check out the Official Home of Will's GameDay Art: http://tinyurl.com/thewillgameday
jrodmc
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3/3/2014  9:12 AM
RonRon wrote:How about be a leader?
How about make other's around him better?
What numbers did Lin produce during his run, what talent did he have around him?

Most importantly WE PLAYED TEAM BALL and WON

People keep deferring blame on STAT, Chandler, Felton, etc

What was the salary of the players that Jeremy Lin played with?
It is NOT about what stats 1 player produces, it is about HOW he does it, and how the ENTIRE TEAM does...
Why were we a TOP DEFENSIVE team, highly efficient team, and had great ball movement/player movement during that stretch?

Melo vs Lin's IMPACT of the game
------------------------------------------
Simply put, Jeremy Lin is a better leader/general and initiates the OFFENSE much better than Melo (Melo is much more talented just not nearly as efficient)
He was able to get his team involved, getting the best out of them, he was able to get the crowed involved, feeding of their energy
Players like Chandler, Jeffries, Novak, Fields all looked like very good players with him and look like crapped when Melo initiates the offense

Farmer dropped 30pts today, should we sign him for 5m because of it?

HOW ABOUT PLAYING DURING THE PLAYOFFS?

jrodmc
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3/3/2014  9:16 AM
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:
dk7th wrote:
fishmike wrote:not sure what that link is too.. but are you hitting F5 every 30 seconds?

Is it a photo of your victory parade? Making love to DK in his mom's basement?

Did you get your "I defeated fishmike and Melo sucks" tatoo yet? Ill fund that if you want... I think its a fair pennance to pay for my defeat!

the reason why melo has failed to accomplish anything of note is that he overrates himself and is overrated by many. if his strengths can be harnessed that is one thing, but in order for that to happen he has to step aside and be put in his proper role on a team is a second-and-a-half banana.

but correcting his weaknesses is another matter entirely, and any team he plays on he will drag down because of those weaknesses. that is why his teams always underachieve.

he made a fatal error when he went after money and wanted to be traded, and the error was based not merely on good old greed but, again, not knowing his own limitations. a man's got to know his limitations.

so while you want to go the sardonic route the truth of the matter remains.

no sardines here at all! Especially after your post about not liking dunks and the rim should be 11 feet I have looked at your thoughts with new light and respect. Your totally right. I see all the losing seasons. I see how every new situation he has been in has gotten worse. Ever since Melo got here he's dragged down the Knicks win total. Since Denver has droppped that anchor as well they are en route to their best record since the Nick Van Exel/Raef Lafrenz era! I see it now... its clear. Good call dude

you aren't having a dialogue you are just reacting. get a grip.

Im thanking you. Telling you what you have shown me. You and TFK. Isnt that why you post in every thread about the same thing? Like a religion looking for converts. Im in baby! Sold my Melo card. Bring me back Gallo and Sweetney and Marbury... whom I was also wrong about. MElo is Fugazy NYer, but TFK reminded us that Marbury is a REAL NYer. Its like a spiritual awakening. I feel free

you know what's funny? you think you are funny but you're not.

Actually, fish is funny. But your's and tkf's responses are absolutely hilarious.

what else can melo do?! 44 pts, 9 boards?

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