fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way...I'll take 29 pts 8 Rebs on 43% shooting From Melo any day of the week as he did in the Series...

so would you take his 27/11/ and only one assist on 35% shooting in game 1 which we lost.. 28 shots ? wow

how about his 21/5/ and yet again ONE assist stinker shooting 37% in another loss.. game 3.. knicks scored 71 points.. I thought having a superstar and scoring champion was supposed to avoid the knicks from having games like this?

or how about the pivotal game 4. knicks in danger falling down 3-1.. carmelo shows up with 24/9/ and yes, yet again ONE assist.. rofl... and oh. he shot 39%

so you can post that 43% because he had one or two games that help bring that horrible average up, but in the games his team needed him to be a star.. he wasn't.. he isn't.. plain and simple..

so I ask you.. is this what you really want?

Tell the whole story why don't u:

Game 2: 32pts 9reb 3 ast on 50% shooting
Game 5: 28pts 6 reb 0 asst on 43% shooting
Game 6: 39 pts 7 reb 2 asst on 53% shooting...

Anyone can post the worst games of any player from any series..By the way, that's how averages work..U add all the numbers, just not the bad...

Don't you get it? Only melo's bad games count- you have to ignore/ refuse to acknowledge any good games or achievements.

if they counted for double you would be onto to something. Why are the homers in total denial? Holfresh mentioned KG, a notorious one and done playoff guy. Compare his stats vs playoffs. He's just as good. Now compare Melo's. Melo goes from a reasonable 45% shooting (for a volume scorer) to Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Does he suck? No. Does he choke? No. Does he get exposed? Every year.

Playing the Knicks:
Pack the middle and bottle up the middle. Commit your bigs to protecting the basket, especially when Melo has the ball and you will win EVERY playoff series against the Knicks. Why? Because if you take away the paint from Melo he will take his shots elsewhere. And yes.. there will be games he lights it up because he's damn good. And those will be followed by games he shoot 10-30. 10 years of evidence and the excuses continue.

Its laughable.

I dont even hate the guy. He's a great player. I 100% agree with ESPN. Top 15 for sure, and probably top 10, but the holes in his game ad his refusal to change his approach will ensure the same thing happens every year.

So please... MElo apologists, holfresh, etc.. please tell me which parts Im wrong about

And I'm fine with criticism of him- I prefer defensive players! It's just when people refuse to acknowledge ANY positives about him and make out he's one of, if not THE worst players in the league. That's just daft.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Durant, CP3, Ewing etc etc etc

All losers!

Nash, Stockton, Mailman, Miller, Barkley too

That should silence all zero of the people criticizing Melo for not having rings!

Who said anything about silence?

Crucify that bastard, Melo!

I dont hold rings against Melo, or even Ewing. Yes, its means something, but there's a big difference between Melo and Ewing. With Ewing (and nothing close to another star) you knew the Knicks could COMPETE for a title. That was his goal every year. He layed it out there. When the KNicks didnt win it he sat there knees iced up and towel over his head and said I failed.

Ive seen Melo for three years in the playoffs. Of course I dont blame him for all the losses, but look at his game. Do folks believe he will have us competing for a title? He's #2 trying to be a #1. He's Pippen without MJ. He's damn good, but guys who shoot like Jamal Crawford in the playoffs dont lead teams deep. They just dont.

Melo's had monster playoff games. He's not consistent enough to win over a 7 game series, he just isnt.

Have the Knicks or Denver ever won a playoff game where Melo shot less than 40% someone look that up... shockingly, making baskets matters... so if its not falling help the team win a different way. Melo just shoots shoots shoots until he compiles these ridiculous 10-35 type games we have ZER) chance of winning.

smackeddog wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Durant, CP3, Ewing etc etc etc

All losers!

Nash, Stockton, Mailman, Miller, Barkley too

That should silence all zero of the people criticizing Melo for not having rings!

Who said anything about silence?

Crucify that bastard, Melo!

At the end of the day Melo is a basketball player who sometimes shoots too much. The level of hate he gets for that crime is beyond ridiculous, you'd think he regularly murdered children.

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way...I'll take 29 pts 8 Rebs on 43% shooting From Melo any day of the week as he did in the Series...

so would you take his 27/11/ and only one assist on 35% shooting in game 1 which we lost.. 28 shots ? wow

how about his 21/5/ and yet again ONE assist stinker shooting 37% in another loss.. game 3.. knicks scored 71 points.. I thought having a superstar and scoring champion was supposed to avoid the knicks from having games like this?

or how about the pivotal game 4. knicks in danger falling down 3-1.. carmelo shows up with 24/9/ and yes, yet again ONE assist.. rofl... and oh. he shot 39%

so you can post that 43% because he had one or two games that help bring that horrible average up, but in the games his team needed him to be a star.. he wasn't.. he isn't.. plain and simple..

so I ask you.. is this what you really want?

Tell the whole story why don't u:

Game 2: 32pts 9reb 3 ast on 50% shooting
Game 5: 28pts 6 reb 0 asst on 43% shooting
Game 6: 39 pts 7 reb 2 asst on 53% shooting...

Anyone can post the worst games of any player from any series..By the way, that's how averages work..U add all the numbers, just not the bad...

Don't you get it? Only melo's bad games count- you have to ignore/ refuse to acknowledge any good games or achievements.

if they counted for double you would be onto to something. Why are the homers in total denial? Holfresh mentioned KG, a notorious one and done playoff guy. Compare his stats vs playoffs. He's just as good. Now compare Melo's. Melo goes from a reasonable 45% shooting (for a volume scorer) to Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Does he suck? No. Does he choke? No. Does he get exposed? Every year.

Playing the Knicks:
Pack the middle and bottle up the middle. Commit your bigs to protecting the basket, especially when Melo has the ball and you will win EVERY playoff series against the Knicks. Why? Because if you take away the paint from Melo he will take his shots elsewhere. And yes.. there will be games he lights it up because he's damn good. And those will be followed by games he shoot 10-30. 10 years of evidence and the excuses continue.

Its laughable.

I dont even hate the guy. He's a great player. I 100% agree with ESPN. Top 15 for sure, and probably top 10, but the holes in his game ad his refusal to change his approach will ensure the same thing happens every year.

So please... MElo apologists, holfresh, etc.. please tell me which parts Im wrong about

Couple of things...To your exposed every time...Melo made it to the WCF with Billups!!..The one time he had a legit player/PG with him...how do u spin that??.Another..Melo lost in the first round to LA Lakers with Shaq and Kobe a couple of times who became Champs..Lost to the Spurs with Duncan, Parker and Manu who became Champs...Should the Nuggets have won these games with Earl Boykins as the Nuggets second leading scorer??..He gets exposed every time???...Insane..With the Knicks, should he have beaten Boston the first year here, the year MDA ran Amare into the ground??????...Should they have beaten Miami last year, Lin waived the white flag, no mas year, Amare attacked a Fire Extinguisher???..Please spin this for me...

TeamBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Yea he wasn't there when we needed him to be. He didn't even show up against Chicago and Indiana in the regular season but boy he looked good vs Orlando Charlotte Milwaukee and Washington!

Well that's not entirely true but I do agree on one occasion which was the game 4 in the Boston series. He could have shut a lot of people up that game but put up a stinker.

Guns please look at the schedule before u talk...First game of the year against Miami, what happened??.Game against the Spurs what happened???..45 against the Nets..Remember Nets supposed to be the new boy in town..I think Marv and Fish was at one of those games..Please look, I tired of bringing facts to refute the many distortions...

holfresh wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Yea he wasn't there when we needed him to be. He didn't even show up against Chicago and Indiana in the regular season but boy he looked good vs Orlando Charlotte Milwaukee and Washington!

Well that's not entirely true but I do agree on one occasion which was the game 4 in the Boston series. He could have shut a lot of people up that game but put up a stinker.

Guns please look at the schedule before u talk...First game of the year against Miami, what happened??.Game against the Spurs what happened???..45 against the Nets..Remember Nets supposed to be the new boy in town..I think Marv and Fish was at one of those games..Please look, I tired of bringing facts to refute the many distortions...

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way...I'll take 29 pts 8 Rebs on 43% shooting From Melo any day of the week as he did in the Series...

so would you take his 27/11/ and only one assist on 35% shooting in game 1 which we lost.. 28 shots ? wow

how about his 21/5/ and yet again ONE assist stinker shooting 37% in another loss.. game 3.. knicks scored 71 points.. I thought having a superstar and scoring champion was supposed to avoid the knicks from having games like this?

or how about the pivotal game 4. knicks in danger falling down 3-1.. carmelo shows up with 24/9/ and yes, yet again ONE assist.. rofl... and oh. he shot 39%

so you can post that 43% because he had one or two games that help bring that horrible average up, but in the games his team needed him to be a star.. he wasn't.. he isn't.. plain and simple..

so I ask you.. is this what you really want?

Tell the whole story why don't u:

Game 2: 32pts 9reb 3 ast on 50% shooting
Game 5: 28pts 6 reb 0 asst on 43% shooting
Game 6: 39 pts 7 reb 2 asst on 53% shooting...

Anyone can post the worst games of any player from any series..By the way, that's how averages work..U add all the numbers, just not the bad...

Don't you get it? Only melo's bad games count- you have to ignore/ refuse to acknowledge any good games or achievements.

if they counted for double you would be onto to something. Why are the homers in total denial? Holfresh mentioned KG, a notorious one and done playoff guy. Compare his stats vs playoffs. He's just as good. Now compare Melo's. Melo goes from a reasonable 45% shooting (for a volume scorer) to Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Does he suck? No. Does he choke? No. Does he get exposed? Every year.

Playing the Knicks:
Pack the middle and bottle up the middle. Commit your bigs to protecting the basket, especially when Melo has the ball and you will win EVERY playoff series against the Knicks. Why? Because if you take away the paint from Melo he will take his shots elsewhere. And yes.. there will be games he lights it up because he's damn good. And those will be followed by games he shoot 10-30. 10 years of evidence and the excuses continue.

Its laughable.

I dont even hate the guy. He's a great player. I 100% agree with ESPN. Top 15 for sure, and probably top 10, but the holes in his game ad his refusal to change his approach will ensure the same thing happens every year.

So please... MElo apologists, holfresh, etc.. please tell me which parts Im wrong about

Couple of things...To your exposed every time...Melo made it to the WCF with Billups!!..The one time he had a legit player/PG with him...how do u spin that??.Another..Melo lost in the first round to LA Lakers with Shaq and Kobe a couple of times who became Champs..Lost to the Spurs with Duncan, Parker and Manu who became Champs...Should the Nuggets have won these games with Earl Boykins as the Nuggets second leading scorer??..He gets exposed every time???...Insane..With the Knicks, should he have beaten Boston the first year here, the year MDA ran Amare into the ground??????...Should they have beaten Miami last year???..Please spin this for me...

Dude. Why does Melo shoot like Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Why does he go from an NBA average 45% to a Jamal Crawford 41% in the playoffs?

Why? Let me guess. Bad calls. No good teammates to pass to. The Lakers were mean to him.

Again... I dont kill Melo for not advancing when the other team was better. I kill Melo for performing poorly. 41% = POOR. Spin that ya ****ing donkey

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way...I'll take 29 pts 8 Rebs on 43% shooting From Melo any day of the week as he did in the Series...

so would you take his 27/11/ and only one assist on 35% shooting in game 1 which we lost.. 28 shots ? wow

how about his 21/5/ and yet again ONE assist stinker shooting 37% in another loss.. game 3.. knicks scored 71 points.. I thought having a superstar and scoring champion was supposed to avoid the knicks from having games like this?

or how about the pivotal game 4. knicks in danger falling down 3-1.. carmelo shows up with 24/9/ and yes, yet again ONE assist.. rofl... and oh. he shot 39%

so you can post that 43% because he had one or two games that help bring that horrible average up, but in the games his team needed him to be a star.. he wasn't.. he isn't.. plain and simple..

so I ask you.. is this what you really want?

Tell the whole story why don't u:

Game 2: 32pts 9reb 3 ast on 50% shooting
Game 5: 28pts 6 reb 0 asst on 43% shooting
Game 6: 39 pts 7 reb 2 asst on 53% shooting...

Anyone can post the worst games of any player from any series..By the way, that's how averages work..U add all the numbers, just not the bad...

Don't you get it? Only melo's bad games count- you have to ignore/ refuse to acknowledge any good games or achievements.

if they counted for double you would be onto to something. Why are the homers in total denial? Holfresh mentioned KG, a notorious one and done playoff guy. Compare his stats vs playoffs. He's just as good. Now compare Melo's. Melo goes from a reasonable 45% shooting (for a volume scorer) to Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Does he suck? No. Does he choke? No. Does he get exposed? Every year.

Playing the Knicks:
Pack the middle and bottle up the middle. Commit your bigs to protecting the basket, especially when Melo has the ball and you will win EVERY playoff series against the Knicks. Why? Because if you take away the paint from Melo he will take his shots elsewhere. And yes.. there will be games he lights it up because he's damn good. And those will be followed by games he shoot 10-30. 10 years of evidence and the excuses continue.

Its laughable.

I dont even hate the guy. He's a great player. I 100% agree with ESPN. Top 15 for sure, and probably top 10, but the holes in his game ad his refusal to change his approach will ensure the same thing happens every year.

So please... MElo apologists, holfresh, etc.. please tell me which parts Im wrong about

Couple of things...To your exposed every time...Melo made it to the WCF with Billups!!..The one time he had a legit player/PG with him...how do u spin that??.Another..Melo lost in the first round to LA Lakers with Shaq and Kobe a couple of times who became Champs..Lost to the Spurs with Duncan, Parker and Manu who became Champs...Should the Nuggets have won these games with Earl Boykins as the Nuggets second leading scorer??..He gets exposed every time???...Insane..With the Knicks, should he have beaten Boston the first year here, the year MDA ran Amare into the ground??????...Should they have beaten Miami last year???..Please spin this for me...

whats to spin dude? The WCF team was loaded. Camby healthy. KMArt healthy and Melo. Billups was a beast and finals MVP and defensive stopper. What is there to spin? Thats one time. Oh.. he did advance last year also. My bad.

Dude. Why does Melo shoot like Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Why does he go from an NBA average 45% to a Jamal Crawford 41% in the playoffs?

Why? Let me guess. Bad calls. No good teammates to pass to. The Lakers were mean to him.

Again... I dont kill Melo for not advancing when the other team was better. I kill Melo for performing poorly. 41% = POOR. Spin that ya ****ing donkey

Really..Getting personal now???

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way...I'll take 29 pts 8 Rebs on 43% shooting From Melo any day of the week as he did in the Series...

so would you take his 27/11/ and only one assist on 35% shooting in game 1 which we lost.. 28 shots ? wow

how about his 21/5/ and yet again ONE assist stinker shooting 37% in another loss.. game 3.. knicks scored 71 points.. I thought having a superstar and scoring champion was supposed to avoid the knicks from having games like this?

or how about the pivotal game 4. knicks in danger falling down 3-1.. carmelo shows up with 24/9/ and yes, yet again ONE assist.. rofl... and oh. he shot 39%

so you can post that 43% because he had one or two games that help bring that horrible average up, but in the games his team needed him to be a star.. he wasn't.. he isn't.. plain and simple..

so I ask you.. is this what you really want?

Tell the whole story why don't u:

Game 2: 32pts 9reb 3 ast on 50% shooting
Game 5: 28pts 6 reb 0 asst on 43% shooting
Game 6: 39 pts 7 reb 2 asst on 53% shooting...

Anyone can post the worst games of any player from any series..By the way, that's how averages work..U add all the numbers, just not the bad...

Don't you get it? Only melo's bad games count- you have to ignore/ refuse to acknowledge any good games or achievements.

if they counted for double you would be onto to something. Why are the homers in total denial? Holfresh mentioned KG, a notorious one and done playoff guy. Compare his stats vs playoffs. He's just as good. Now compare Melo's. Melo goes from a reasonable 45% shooting (for a volume scorer) to Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Does he suck? No. Does he choke? No. Does he get exposed? Every year.

Playing the Knicks:
Pack the middle and bottle up the middle. Commit your bigs to protecting the basket, especially when Melo has the ball and you will win EVERY playoff series against the Knicks. Why? Because if you take away the paint from Melo he will take his shots elsewhere. And yes.. there will be games he lights it up because he's damn good. And those will be followed by games he shoot 10-30. 10 years of evidence and the excuses continue.

Its laughable.

I dont even hate the guy. He's a great player. I 100% agree with ESPN. Top 15 for sure, and probably top 10, but the holes in his game ad his refusal to change his approach will ensure the same thing happens every year.

So please... MElo apologists, holfresh, etc.. please tell me which parts Im wrong about

Couple of things...To your exposed every time...Melo made it to the WCF with Billups!!..The one time he had a legit player/PG with him...how do u spin that??.Another..Melo lost in the first round to LA Lakers with Shaq and Kobe a couple of times who became Champs..Lost to the Spurs with Duncan, Parker and Manu who became Champs...Should the Nuggets have won these games with Earl Boykins as the Nuggets second leading scorer??..He gets exposed every time???...Insane..With the Knicks, should he have beaten Boston the first year here, the year MDA ran Amare into the ground??????...Should they have beaten Miami last year???..Please spin this for me...

whats to spin dude? The WCF team was loaded. Camby healthy. KMArt healthy and Melo. Billups was a beast and finals MVP and defensive stopper. What is there to spin? Thats one time. Oh.. he did advance last year also. My bad.

Dude. Why does Melo shoot like Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Why does he go from an NBA average 45% to a Jamal Crawford 41% in the playoffs?

Why? Let me guess. Bad calls. No good teammates to pass to. The Lakers were mean to him.

Again... I dont kill Melo for not advancing when the other team was better. I kill Melo for performing poorly. 41% = POOR. Spin that ya ****ing donkey

Really..Getting personal now???

tkf wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:By the way...I'll take 29 pts 8 Rebs on 43% shooting From Melo any day of the week as he did in the Series...

so would you take his 27/11/ and only one assist on 35% shooting in game 1 which we lost.. 28 shots ? wow

how about his 21/5/ and yet again ONE assist stinker shooting 37% in another loss.. game 3.. knicks scored 71 points.. I thought having a superstar and scoring champion was supposed to avoid the knicks from having games like this?

or how about the pivotal game 4. knicks in danger falling down 3-1.. carmelo shows up with 24/9/ and yes, yet again ONE assist.. rofl... and oh. he shot 39%

so you can post that 43% because he had one or two games that help bring that horrible average up, but in the games his team needed him to be a star.. he wasn't.. he isn't.. plain and simple..

so I ask you.. is this what you really want?

Tell the whole story why don't u:

Game 2: 32pts 9reb 3 ast on 50% shooting
Game 5: 28pts 6 reb 0 asst on 43% shooting
Game 6: 39 pts 7 reb 2 asst on 53% shooting...

Anyone can post the worst games of any player from any series..By the way, that's how averages work..U add all the numbers, just not the bad...

Don't you get it? Only melo's bad games count- you have to ignore/ refuse to acknowledge any good games or achievements.

if they counted for double you would be onto to something. Why are the homers in total denial? Holfresh mentioned KG, a notorious one and done playoff guy. Compare his stats vs playoffs. He's just as good. Now compare Melo's. Melo goes from a reasonable 45% shooting (for a volume scorer) to Jamal Crawford in the playoffs. Does he suck? No. Does he choke? No. Does he get exposed? Every year.

Playing the Knicks:
Pack the middle and bottle up the middle. Commit your bigs to protecting the basket, especially when Melo has the ball and you will win EVERY playoff series against the Knicks. Why? Because if you take away the paint from Melo he will take his shots elsewhere. And yes.. there will be games he lights it up because he's damn good. And those will be followed by games he shoot 10-30. 10 years of evidence and the excuses continue.

Its laughable.

I dont even hate the guy. He's a great player. I 100% agree with ESPN. Top 15 for sure, and probably top 10, but the holes in his game ad his refusal to change his approach will ensure the same thing happens every year.

So please... MElo apologists, holfresh, etc.. please tell me which parts Im wrong about

And I'm fine with criticism of him- I prefer defensive players! It's just when people refuse to acknowledge ANY positives about him and make out he's one of, if not THE worst players in the league. That's just daft.

Nah, no one is saying that.. the problem with you melo defenders is that he is either a superstar, top 5 or he's hated on..

can you just accept that he is a decent all around player, good streak, volume shooter/ scorer, and most likely nothing more than that? does that make him bad.. NO. there is a place for guys like him in the Nba, but it doesn't make him great, doesn't make him a star and doesn't make him worthy to hand the keys to the franchise over to....

that is where I stand..

Oh ...so that's where you stand now....two pages ago you seemed to stand as follows....

carmelo is a fools gold, one dimensional hack bro... that is it.. probably the most overrated player in knick history... he is a dinosaur, that old hold your hand out, give me the ball, jab step, jab step, dribble, drop your head, chuck crap is old.. tell him Glen Big dog robinson is waiting for him and wants his game back.. that old tired, crap he does is not conducive to winning. I dont't care if you cloned 4 lebrons and put him next to carmelo he would find a way to fck that up!!! get that donkey out of NY, the sooner the better!

Perhaps you forgot that you posted this just two pages ago in this very thread.......what with all the Controller functions that you must have to worry about in your Fortune 500 company....it's no wonder that you can't keep track of your hypocritical statements.