Presuming coach Mike Woodson starts Felton, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Metta World Peace, the Knicks' bench consists of Prigioni, Udrih, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire, rookies Tim Hardaway, Jr. and C.J. Leslie and 6-foot-10 forward-center Jeremy Tyler.

Yeah, I said it. It's August and Grumwald is making positive moves... And the absolute BEST you have is dried manure?

Sheesh.

misterearl wrote:Tkf - with all due respect, you suck

Presuming coach Mike Woodson starts Felton, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Metta World Peace, the Knicks' bench consists of Prigioni, Udrih, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire, rookies Tim Hardaway, Jr. and C.J. Leslie and 6-foot-10 forward-center Jeremy Tyler.

Yeah, I said it. It's August and Grumwald is making positive moves... And the absolute BEST you have is dried manure?

Sheesh.

With all due respect, hating fellow Knicks fans sucks.

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Tkf - with all due respect, you suck

Presuming coach Mike Woodson starts Felton, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Metta World Peace, the Knicks' bench consists of Prigioni, Udrih, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire, rookies Tim Hardaway, Jr. and C.J. Leslie and 6-foot-10 forward-center Jeremy Tyler.

Yeah, I said it. It's August and Grumwald is making positive moves... And the absolute BEST you have is dried manure?

Sheesh.

With all due respect, hating fellow Knicks fans sucks.

Reviewing just this thread as evidence, expressing a strong dislike for someone's consistently Knick Hating opinions hardly qualify as sucking.

Hate = negativity
Hating Hate = positive

You should know that Bonn, being a math professor...

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Tkf - with all due respect, you suck

Presuming coach Mike Woodson starts Felton, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Metta World Peace, the Knicks' bench consists of Prigioni, Udrih, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire, rookies Tim Hardaway, Jr. and C.J. Leslie and 6-foot-10 forward-center Jeremy Tyler.

Yeah, I said it. It's August and Grumwald is making positive moves... And the absolute BEST you have is dried manure?

Sheesh.

With all due respect, hating fellow Knicks fans sucks.

really, I have no response to what he said.. it made no sense...

Oh right!

nixluva wrote:

misterearl wrote:Tkf - with all due respect, you suck

Presuming coach Mike Woodson starts Felton, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Metta World Peace, the Knicks' bench consists of Prigioni, Udrih, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire, rookies Tim Hardaway, Jr. and C.J. Leslie and 6-foot-10 forward-center Jeremy Tyler.

Yeah, I said it. It's August and Grumwald is making positive moves... And the absolute BEST you have is dried manure?

Sheesh.

I was concerned with whether Grunwald could pull it off, but IMO I think he has. How can anyone quibble with what this man has done with so few resources. Now after topping it off with Beno. Grunwald has given the Knicks locker room some good chemistry with 3 foreign born players who won't feel lonely or isolated. It's a smart move. AB needs to feel comfortable and I think he will feel very comfortable in NY. We've got a great Italian community and in the locker room we've got a great mix of men from different age groups and cultures. The AB trade really stands up after the summer Grunwald has had. The support is there on this roster. Really love the trade for how this team is looking to handle the next 2 seasons.

this is what confuses me, you guys now are spinning this to the wait for 2015 campaign... do you really think this is a championship team over the next two years? not even close....!! but yet you guys are already sounding like you are conceding...how bout being set up for the next 5-6 years like the pacers, bulls, etc...

if the window is two years, then this team should be torn to shreds.. go young, get picks... then evaluate who is good enough to keep past 2015, build a core, have a plan.... we don't.. what I see is sell tickets for the next two years, fall short, fire woodson, scapegoat him and grunwald and find the next allstar player to max out at superstar prices.... and repeat the process....

By 2015, i want to be that team on the rise!! not recovering from this mess and giving guys like carmelo a kobe max.. I swear I fear that with this team.... in two years I want to be looking to add a player or two to a young core, that is full of guys what compete, have integrity, and can play both sides of the floor.. not a bunch of bust, has beens, and reclamation projects..

the short sided view just kills me. you guys are going to be hating this two years from now...

Bonn1997 wrote:

misterearl wrote:Tkf - with all due respect, you suck

Presuming coach Mike Woodson starts Felton, Iman Shumpert, Tyson Chandler, Carmelo Anthony and Metta World Peace, the Knicks' bench consists of Prigioni, Udrih, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire, rookies Tim Hardaway, Jr. and C.J. Leslie and 6-foot-10 forward-center Jeremy Tyler.

Yeah, I said it. It's August and Grumwald is making positive moves... And the absolute BEST you have is dried manure?

Sheesh.

With all due respect, hating fellow Knicks fans sucks.

Bonn1997 - any Knicks fan is a friend of mine. Nowhere was the word hate used or implied. Sucking is a separate category of chin music that tkf is more than capable of absorbing and defending on his own.

No need to spin it any other way.

Bargnani and Uhrih are two HUGE acquisitions that change the tenor of the roster for the better.

"Give me your tired, huddled masses yearning to run with Anthony."

It's right there on the Statue of Liberty.

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:What's there to hate about this current assortment of Knicks?

Oh right!

just look at this pic and this is the guy whom you put your trust in? honestly I rather not watch the sport ever again if I had to do that...

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:What's there to hate about this current assortment of Knicks?

Oh right!

just look at this pic and this is the guy whom you put your trust in? honestly I rather not watch the sport ever again if I had to do that...

Bonn, as counsel for the defense, please explain the love for the Knicks. Apparently the picture is of someone in the uniform.

toad wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:What's there to hate about this current assortment of Knicks?

Oh right!

just look at this pic and this is the guy whom you put your trust in? honestly I rather not watch the sport ever again if I had to do that...

Bonn, as counsel for the defense, please explain the love for the Knicks. Apparently the picture is of someone in the uniform.

Who cares if he doesn't like him? There's plenty of people that wore New York that I couldn't wait for them to leave. Big deal.

toad wrote:I don't dislike Carmelo, but he's not a player to build around. And you certainly don't do it with guys who don't rebound or play very much defense. Everyone was saying we need that second guy because JR is not that guy. Bargnani is? More and more, I think we're really missing the #1 guy Melo can play off. 2015 can't come fast enough.

WHAT? Look Melo isn't perfect but you can certainly say he's a franchise player you can build around. I think it's insane to say otherwise. If the Knicks had gotten anything close to his regular season out of JR last year in the Pacer series they might've beaten them. If we look at the team now Melo has a MUCH improved supporting cast now. We can't all have Lebron James or Tim Duncan. However, Melo will have his best shot to win a title over the next 2 years. This is likely to be the best team he's played on in NY. The Beno signing helps to make the AB trade stand up even better. You have to have consistently good PG play to take advantage of AB on the floor. It's up to Woody and the Players now to put it all together.