Anji wrote:Yeah, I think this Movlegov guy is reaching hard. I heard about problems with Jsmooth and their were reports of Joe Johnson not being a fan of his. But I seriously doubt there was a public out cry for Acie Law, Royal Ivey and Mario West!!!!

MozelGovCocktail wrote:It got so bad in Atlanta that it was believed that the players shaved off Woodson's eyebrows when he was sleeping on a tour bus.

Mike Woodson singed his eyebrows while smoking a fat Cuban cigar. Everyone knows that. No player is stupid enough to mess with his head coaches dome. Sheesh

MozelGovCocktail wrote:Wake up. The only reason he's here is because Isiah, Grunwald and the rest of the Indiana clique are executing their coup d'état. Excuse me for not being a blind sheep.

Who you calling a blind sheep?... you stand up comic advocate of guys like Acie Law who are no longer in the NB freakin' A, you. So far Glen Grunwald has not sucked at his job. The Tyson Chandler switcherooney with Chauncey Billups was a work of art. JR Smith has provided valuable punch from outside and Steve Novak is so sublime from three point range he should get more shots.

Besides, how is the so-called Indiana clique any different than any other clique in any other corporate boardroom?

Do you miss Al Bianchi?

The Dolan's sign the checks and so far Mike Woodson has commanded the attention of the entire roster. I dig that about him.

One more thing, Marvin Williams and Sheldon Williams were wasted draft picks, especially when the guard-impaired Hawks could have easily selected Deron Williams.

You could look it up.

misterearl wrote:You Had Me At Acie Law

MozelGovCocktail wrote:He failed to use bench players like Acie Law and Solomon Jones, and chose an 8 man rotation. He tried to expand to 9 or 10 too late. His starters wore down and couldn't close (sound familiar)?

His starters in the playoffs, especially his star starters like Joe Johnson, picked a bad time to go cold.

Has anyone seen Acie Law lately?

Anyone?

Bueller?

I don't think it had anything to do with the bench or his rotation. it all comes down to your star player being happy with his coach, and star players in todays league can get any coach fired if there not winning and in some cases championships..

Your not going to get rid of a coach if the star player is 100% behind him despite his win loss record. Once a coach loses his star player or players he's TOAST..

This was killing me and the city. It's hard to go through those stretches. I know in a game it's about runs, but in a season it's consistency in NYC.

We definitely would have lost big to Orlando with dantoni at coach. I barely remember any of the losses under woodson...we def remember getting clobbered by the league for a week.

Maybe Woodson loses those games, I just don't see Woodson getting swept by the clerics in the playoffs. Or getting swept by anyone.

He's just a different type of coach. And the players we have on the Knicks, and across the league, respond (albeit for a short time) to his type of coaching.

"They refused to give in"

Mike Woodson has it

ChuckBuck wrote:One major difference is Woodson makes adjustments, and will tweak his system on the fly if need be. Flexibility. I don't think BD played at all during crunchtime. He had Iman and JR bring the ball up the court, sometimes Melo.

That's how you win in the playoffs.

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Uptown wrote:To say Melo didn't play hard at all until after MDA was fired is a joke. Not only did he try, but he tried on different outfits, whatever outfit he needed to wear to help the team win, and when the losses piled up, he along with his crew became disheartened with the Tailor. Melo realized that the Tailor, though a nice guy and the rep of putting together pretty outfits to look at, the main outfit he wanted Melo to suit up in, didn't fit. And the stubborn Tailor didn't want to adjust the outfit eventhough that should be a job requirement.

Coaches wear alot of hats. Coach, teacher, Psychologist, Saleasman, etc. The players are buying what Woodson is selling, and credit goes to Woodson for that.

Its not that Melo didn't try, he tried in a variety of ways to help the team win. Melo started the year playing point forward, a position he wasn't comfortable in but did it for the sake of the team. For the first time in his career, a usual scoring forward had to get his own and help everyone else get thiers too. He struggled in his new role, no doubt, but he tried.

Speaking of playing hard, Melo won the Boston game on Christmas. Nevermind that he dropped 37, but he made the key baskets down the stretch to bring us back and seal the deal. He had games of 30+ in 3 straight games. Difficult to do that when you dont play hard. Despite scoring the ball, we were still losing so he stepped back, tried to incorportate his teammates more, moved the ball, and decreased his shot attempts. Still the L's piled up. Why did they pile up? Because Stat wasn't in shape, Feilds coulnd't buy a jumper and was playing up and down like the 2nd rounder he is, Douglas was horrible, Shump is a rook and Bibby is a shell of himself. JR was still in China, Lin was on the end of the bench, Davis was rehabing and JJ2 was still in and out of the line up. Not to mention, our coach would start each post game conference with After Linsanity and Melo came back, I saw effort from Melo in Milwaukee, Boston (he made two potential game winners but our genius of a coach loss that game for us with the stupid timeout, then not fouling), in Chi, in San An, in Miami, etc. I will admit that Melo looked disheartened in the Dallas game after getting ignored by his teammates when he was in good scoring position.

To say that Melo is the sole reason why weren't winning before is short-sided, agenda-driven, ignorant to the nuances of the coaches job and just looking to absolve to coach. To blame Melo, solely for the lack of defense the team played before would mean you must give Melo all the credit for defensive surge the entire team is having now. Right? Of course not. Melo isn't single handedly holding teams to below 90 since MDA walked away. The team is. Woodsons team to be exact. Melo has looked better offensively because the Woodson has recognized when most of have been calling for all season. Melo isn't Shawne williams, so Woodson moved him from behind the 3 point line and put him in hte post where he belongs. But ontop of the that, the priorities have changed. No more in the post game conference do we here our coach say, "We need more floor spacing and ball movement," even if the other team scored over 100-110 pts.

No more eqaul opportunity offense, as Woodson is playing to his best players strenghts as it should be. And mainly, he's holding his players, including Melo, accountable. The team tried out what MDA was selling and it didn't work out. Woodson's brand has the whole team buying in and its beautiful to watch.

+1 To me(and looks like several fans), Mike D'Antoni is a one trick pony. He has his system and refuses to bend it to any player no matter what his personnel is. You saw this in his lack of in game adjustments. You saw this in his inability to stop the constant switching in the beginning of the season. You saw this in his refusal to bench Toney Douglas earlier, even though it was evident to everyone on the court his shoulder and confidence wasn't right. His inability to post up Melo on the block consistently like how Woodson is damning. How could you not utilize someone that's a beast in the post like that knowing Melo's wrist was still iffy. Just SMFH at any defense of D'Antoni coaching with all these examples. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THAT BOSTON GAME AGAIN...GODDAMIT!!!

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