Childs2Dudley wrote:I hope everyone realizes there is no third max guy. This is it. This is our team. whatever move we make from now on we will use whatever FEW assets we have left - like Billups expiring contract and young scrubs like Rautins, Walker, Shawne - to acquire some overpaid role player or two on long term contracts. None of our packages will get us a great player.

Not true. Stern has a frozen envelope with CP3s name on it. I heard it on the internet.

ramanboy33 wrote:That's not true. Billups contract for next year is a 13 million team option. Highly doubtful the Knicks pick that up.
Billups expressed his desire to remain in Denver (his hometown), and after retiring to work in the Nuggets front office.
Chauncey Billups is plenty pissed this evening.

People are already reporting the KNicks plan to pick it up. Of course they will. He's playing VERY well this year.

Billups desire to "stay in Denver" was out of the assumption the Nets would decline it. His agent was trying poison the water to motivate the Nets to pick it up.

Knicks will officially pick it up before the press conference, and I assure you, Billups will be there with a huge smile on his face.

Knickoftime wrote:

ramanboy33 wrote:That's not true. Billups contract for next year is a 13 million team option. Highly doubtful the Knicks pick that up.
Billups expressed his desire to remain in Denver (his hometown), and after retiring to work in the Nuggets front office.
Chauncey Billups is plenty pissed this evening.

People are already reporting the KNicks plan to pick it up. Of course they will. He's playing VERY well this year.

Billups desire to "stay in Denver" was out of the assumption the Nets would decline it. His agent was trying poison the water to motivate the Nets to pick it up.

Knicks will officially pick it up before the press conference, and I assure you, Billups will be there with a huge smile on his face.

I agree that the Knicks would pick up his option, but the bolded part confused me. His agent was trying to motivate the Nets into picking up his option by saying he would request them to buy out the contract in the summer? Was this some kind of jedi mind trick?

Andrew wrote:

VDesai wrote:Did Denver get anything from Minnesota? How is it that we ended up trading Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry just for Ronnie Brewer? Was there some cash passing through that was needed to facilitate the deal or did Minny just fleece us a little.

Minnesota was needed to absorb Curry's contract. I think they had cap space.

So essentially the Curry trade was done first to free more space for the Knicks to absorb the Denver contracts?

Would've rather gotten a first rounder from Minny than Corey Brewer- but I suppose Minny was holding out on the Knicks a bit there.

VDesai wrote:

Andrew wrote:

VDesai wrote:Did Denver get anything from Minnesota? How is it that we ended up trading Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry just for Ronnie Brewer? Was there some cash passing through that was needed to facilitate the deal or did Minny just fleece us a little.

Minnesota was needed to absorb Curry's contract. I think they had cap space.

So essentially the Curry trade was done first to free more space for the Knicks to absorb the Denver contracts?

Would've rather gotten a first rounder from Minny than Corey Brewer- but I suppose Minny was holding out on the Knicks a bit there.

It's not 2 different trades, its 1 3 team trade.

Denver did not want to receive as much salary as the Knicks were getting in return, so Minnisota was involved. Minnisota is under the cap, so they can participate in the 3 team trade (even though they don't participate with both) and take the extra salary that Denver didn't want.

Uptown wrote:I excited abut the trade but I have question for those that still believe Isiah is playing puppet master. Why does Walsh get a pass for this trade when it was Walsh who pulled the trigger on the Houston deal last year when he gave up a lotto pick, the right to swap another and a rookie in Jordan Hill all for cap space and Jeffries contract? That seemed like an Isiah deal to me but nobody blamed Zeke. Now that we get our second star and give up a pick, every assumes its Isiah?

Markji wrote:I made numerous posts that it was Dolan who forced the TMac trade and gave up way too much. And, as we know, he is advised by Isiah. This trade also, same thing. Isn't the whole thing obvious?

What do you regard as equitable for Houston to receive in order to take on Jefferies contract?

MSG3 wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:so uhh..

Billups
Fields
Melo
Amare
Turiaf

Bench: TD, Walker, Williams, Shelden Williams, Balkman, Brewer

Our bench looks uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugly. Not ONE guy who you look at and say..damn that guy should be starting on another team.

Edit:

Oh well this is the part where I tell myself things to make myself feel better like

"Well if we waited till free agency, Melo would have totally extended with Denver or New Jersey."

"Chandler was going to walk after this season anyway after we signed Melo as a FA. Gallo plays the same position as Melo and he would be a rerstricted FA after next season anyway. Felton would have walked and Mozgov is a big stiff white guy. AR will never realize his talent."

There..I feel better already.

We will have 1 of Melo, STAT and Billups on the court at all times. Our bench isn't much different now than it was before. the key is Fields continuing his great play.

With Melo and Amare eating up all that cap space, the key is also Donnie (or whoever is running the Knicks...) not having any room for mistakes.

It's essential that whatever draft picks we do have left are used wisely. Production from rookies is cheap..but also VERY uncommon.

It's essential that any free agents we sign have to be good values. We can't afford any more Jefferies/Jerome James type signing that eat up any cap space left over and cost us in numerous other ways.

and the health of any of our guys getting major minutes. Our thin bench means any injury to Billups/Fields/Amare/Melo is going to mean someone we really don't want playing heavy minutes doing so.

*edit* lmao, guess who's number 7 on that list?...Your starting PG Chauncey Billups.

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