Nuggets Think Knicks May Have Tampered With Melo

Sep 27, 2010 9:47 PM EST

Landing with the Knicks may be Carmelo Anthony's first choice but the Nuggets view trading with New York as their least-preferred outcome.

According to ESPN, Denver believes the Knicks may have gone through back channels to recruit Anthony over the summer and are determined to avoid sending him to New York unless they have no other choice.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69315/20100927/nuggets_think_knicks_may_have_tampered_with_melo/

This is about more then just assets.

joec32033 wrote:

Nuggets Think Knicks May Have Tampered With Melo

Sep 27, 2010 9:47 PM EST

Landing with the Knicks may be Carmelo Anthony's first choice but the Nuggets view trading with New York as their least-preferred outcome.

According to ESPN, Denver believes the Knicks may have gone through back channels to recruit Anthony over the summer and are determined to avoid sending him to New York unless they have no other choice.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69315/20100927/nuggets_think_knicks_may_have_tampered_with_melo/

This is about more then just assets.

I Thomas--the gift that keeps giving--it would be nice if we had to surrender 3 future 1s

crzymdups wrote:

it would be ridiculous if the knicks got nailed for tampering after what dwyane wade pulled this summer on behalf of the heat.

Yeah, but it wouldn't suprise me if they made an example out of us. I think they're either going to find someone to make an example of or they are going to come up with some new rules to clamp down on 'tampering'. At least this confirms that the reason Denver is saying we have nothing of interest and will talk to any other team rather than us IS actually spite, so I return the sentiment and hope they end up with absolutely nothing.

Ira wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

Nuggets Think Knicks May Have Tampered With Melo

Sep 27, 2010 9:47 PM EST

Landing with the Knicks may be Carmelo Anthony's first choice but the Nuggets view trading with New York as their least-preferred outcome.

According to ESPN, Denver believes the Knicks may have gone through back channels to recruit Anthony over the summer and are determined to avoid sending him to New York unless they have no other choice.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69315/20100927/nuggets_think_knicks_may_have_tampered_with_melo/

This is about more then just assets.

I Thomas--the gift that keeps giving--it would be nice if we had to surrender 3 future 1s

it would be ridiculous if the knicks got nailed for tampering after what dwyane wade pulled this summer on behalf of the heat.

Last summer, they were free agents.

That's only if you believe that everything began during the FA period... and how do any of us really know what Riley's role in all of this was- could he have been aware of Wade's plan and tacitly gave his approval for it? There seems to be evidence that the Scheme Team had an idea of what they were going to do a few years ago.

The Nuggets have been engaging in talks with teams interested in acquiring Anthony. A potential megadeal with the New Jersey Nets hit a snag over the weekend.

The trade, which would involve Charlotte and Utah and make Anthony a member of the Nets, would cost Denver nearly $10 million, a reality that is a major problem for the Nuggets, a person with knowledge of the negotiations told ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.

"Stan Kroenke is not going to pay that much money to take a step backwards," the source said of the Nuggets' owner. "They'll have to find a way for Denver to take on less money for that deal to happen."

In the proposed deal, which was first reported by ESPN.com on Friday, the Nuggets would receive Utah's Andrei Kirilenko ($17.8 million), New Jersey rookie Derrick Favors ($4.1 million) and two future first-round draft picks for Anthony, who makes $17.1 million. Their payroll would increase by $4.8 million and since they are over the luxury tax, they'd pay another $4.8 million, meaning Denver would pay an extra $9.6 million this season to become a worse team.
While Denver has not totally nixed the deal, the source told Broussard the financial implications make it very unlikely to happen in its current form.

That goes a long way in explaining Denver's hesitancy regarding the trade. Several league sources told Broussard that Bret Bearup, a longtime consultant to Kroenke and his son Josh, has wanted to trade Anthony for quite some time, but the money aspect of this deal has kept even him from signing off on the move.
The swirling rumors have put the Nuggets and Anthony in the awkward position of being together on the eve of training camp.

The Nuggets' new executive vice president of basketball operations, Masai Ujiri, spoke to the media before Anthony, saying he had met with their franchise player but that the details of their talk would remain private.
"But we're going to keep talking," Ujiri said. "Melo is a Nugget now, and we're excited about that."

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5622392

Well that explains why Denver got cold feet.

The Knicks, who already paid Curry half of his $
11.3-million salary in July, as stipulated in his
contract, are unlikely to enter into buyout
discussions. He is still valuable as an expiring
contract, especially in a potential trade for
Carmelo Anthony, so the Knicks want to keep him
on the roster even if he can't play.
He

http://newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/injury-knocks-knicks-curry-out-of-camp-again-1.2319827?print=true

AnubisADL wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

The Nuggets have been engaging in talks with teams interested in acquiring Anthony. A potential megadeal with the New Jersey Nets hit a snag over the weekend.

The trade, which would involve Charlotte and Utah and make Anthony a member of the Nets, would cost Denver nearly $10 million, a reality that is a major problem for the Nuggets, a person with knowledge of the negotiations told ESPN.com's Chris Broussard.

"Stan Kroenke is not going to pay that much money to take a step backwards," the source said of the Nuggets' owner. "They'll have to find a way for Denver to take on less money for that deal to happen."

In the proposed deal, which was first reported by ESPN.com on Friday, the Nuggets would receive Utah's Andrei Kirilenko ($17.8 million), New Jersey rookie Derrick Favors ($4.1 million) and two future first-round draft picks for Anthony, who makes $17.1 million. Their payroll would increase by $4.8 million and since they are over the luxury tax, they'd pay another $4.8 million, meaning Denver would pay an extra $9.6 million this season to become a worse team.
While Denver has not totally nixed the deal, the source told Broussard the financial implications make it very unlikely to happen in its current form.

That goes a long way in explaining Denver's hesitancy regarding the trade. Several league sources told Broussard that Bret Bearup, a longtime consultant to Kroenke and his son Josh, has wanted to trade Anthony for quite some time, but the money aspect of this deal has kept even him from signing off on the move.
The swirling rumors have put the Nuggets and Anthony in the awkward position of being together on the eve of training camp.

The Nuggets' new executive vice president of basketball operations, Masai Ujiri, spoke to the media before Anthony, saying he had met with their franchise player but that the details of their talk would remain private.
"But we're going to keep talking," Ujiri said. "Melo is a Nugget now, and we're excited about that."

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5622392

Well that explains why Denver got cold feet.

Here is a funny little nugget. Hahn posted an article in how Curry is trade bait. Well he mentioned that the the Knicks have already paid half of the $11 mil owed to Curry. Meaning if you throw in $3 mil they would have to pay the luxury tax bill but it will be cost since Curry was already paid by half and also if we give them cash.

This means the most fiscally responsible move may be the Knicks.

Offer Wilson, Eddy, Toney, 2 2nd round picks and $3 mil for Carmelo. If you need to, throw in a guy like Walker or Bukakke(salary permitting).

Wilson Chandler is a RFA this summer. You think Denver wants to extend this guy? They are in rebuild mode if they trade Melo.

We need to include Randolph and/or Gallo to get this deal done before the season. If Gallo or Randolph blow up then we might be able to trade just one in the package. If they dont impress then we probably need to include both anyway.

I understand that but if they are looking to trade and not have to do it dollar for dollar well..they kinda have to decide. Honestly, there can't be a lot of teams that fit the exact criteria they want.

Denver - the culture on this team can't be good with their franchise player on the way out and the team heading towards a rebuilding mode. This might very well take on the look of the Knicks 09/10 team where players knew they were on the way out and we all know how that played out with less effort and team chemistry and a losing record. Guess we'll have to see if Denver can still look like a playoff contender or else we might see Denver looking to include Nene or even Martin in any deal to move salary and start the re-build sooner than later. They will certainly still be looking for salary releif, young players and pics however it plays out. Billups and Anthony are pretty good chips to help move some salary, just look what Donnie did with less than that and even Martin could find his way to a contender by the deadline.

Knicks - would help if Curry can get healthy and in some sort of game shape even if he doesn't play, he will always be a question mark and little more then salary dump. Denver will still be looking for a pick and young talent are Gallinari and Randolph should have pretty good stats by the deadline making it easier to include one and not both considering other factors.

all in all...i'd say Anthony to NY will be talked about here till the deadline passes as it is still a possibilty until it isn't

TMS wrote:

joec32033 wrote:Offer Wilson, Eddy, Toney, 2 2nd round picks and $3 mil for Carmelo. If you need to, throw in a guy like Walker or Bukakke(salary permitting).

throw in Andy Rautins & you got yerself a deal!

come on bro.

No deal. Need Rautins for the white guy with crazy hair quota every team has.

Seriously, why compete with ourselves? Offer that and if they come back with a combo of say a base of Randolph Curry and Wilson...so be it.

smackeddog wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

The Knicks, who already paid Curry half of his $
11.3-million salary in July, as stipulated in his
contract, are unlikely to enter into buyout
discussions. He is still valuable as an expiring
contract, especially in a potential trade for
Carmelo Anthony, so the Knicks want to keep him
on the roster even if he can't play.
He

http://newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/injury-knocks-knicks-curry-out-of-camp-again-1.2319827?print=true

Are teams allowed to pay players early? I remember some papers reporting that last season the Knicks had rescheduled Currys payments due to him having financial difficulties. If so, whats stopping a team from paying most of their players salary prior to the trade deadline, to make them more attractive to another team in a trade?

I don't know the CBA that well but I guess it would be possible. At the team's discretion. This Curry payout was contractual.

I don't know the steps to revise or modify a contract with the player's union.

WE read today Knicks are not letting go of Gallo or AR and to boot Denver is pissed at us.

Denver sounds like a mess. Karl has one yera left and really should be looking at replacing him. Let Melo pick the coach or at least try. Nuggs too cheap to replace Karl? Dude can't be on top of his game and I doubt is going to continue.

Hey, we might not have brains but we got money!!!!