TheGame wrote:Fields was a very accomplished college player that scouts assumed would be too slow and unathletic to succeed in the NBA. He is more quick than fast, that is hard to guage as a scout. I think the scouts underestimated his motor, and the kid made a huge leap in production his senior season, so some scouts might have written him off without really reevaluating what he was doing as a senior. Fields is one of those guys scouts overlook becuase, since he stayed in school for 4 years, they assume he has used up his potential. ONce this kid gets a jumpshot, he is going to be very good and will be hard to keep on the bench. Great draft pick in the second round.

Love this dude..Nevermind the production in SL which was very good (he finished up averaging something like 15.5 & 5) it's all the other things that really make him stand out: his nose for the ball, knack for being in the right place at the right time, his quality handle, rebounding ability, strong take to the basket, surprising defense, steady/smart/mistake-free play, heck I even think he can shoot the ball a lot better than he's being given credit for (respect to you Game but all this "when he gets a jumper he'll be good" stuff is overblown imo - I've heard that from a lot of people so far & it just doesn't ring true, not from what I saw anyway. I think his jumper's quite effective with more-than-decent technique..There are many different players, veteran players in fact, that have far worse looking jumpshots than Fields)...Rarely have I seen such a young player with so many intangibles, esp. a guy flying this far under everyone's radar...

What can I say? The kid impressed the hell out of me..I don't wanna get too crazy here but after watching Fields closely in SL, he looked like 1st round material all the way...Heck forget 1st round, dude looked like a 5-year NBA veteran out there...The Knicks deserve A TON of credit with the Fields pick - never again will I pop off on a selection of a guy I know little or nothing about. I usually know better...The Knicks have my apologies. I know it'll be tough to crack MDA's tight rotation esp. with all the new talent we brought in that also needs to be assimilated but I still wanna see Mike find a way to incorporate Fields somehow..I think this kid could help us right away.

nyk4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TheGame wrote:Fields was a very accomplished college player that scouts assumed would be too slow and unathletic to succeed in the NBA. He is more quick than fast, that is hard to guage as a scout. I think the scouts underestimated his motor, and the kid made a huge leap in production his senior season, so some scouts might have written him off without really reevaluating what he was doing as a senior. Fields is one of those guys scouts overlook becuase, since he stayed in school for 4 years, they assume he has used up his potential. ONce this kid gets a jumpshot, he is going to be very good and will be hard to keep on the bench. Great draft pick in the second round.

Love this dude..Nevermind the production in SL which was very good (he finished up averaging something like 15.5 & 5) it's all the other things that really make him stand out: his nose for the ball, knack for being in the right place at the right time, his quality handle, rebounding ability, strong take to the basket, surprising defense, steady/smart/mistake-free play, heck I even think he can shoot the ball a lot better than he's being given credit for (respect to you Game but all this "when he gets a jumper he'll be good" stuff is overblown imo - I've heard that from a lot of people so far & it just doesn't ring true, not from what I saw anyway. I think his jumper's quite effective with more-than-decent technique..There are many different players, veteran players in fact, that have far worse looking jumpshots than Fields)...Rarely have I seen such a young player with so many intangibles, esp. a guy flying this far under everyone's radar...

What can I say? The kid impressed the hell out of me..I don't wanna get too crazy here but after watching Fields closely in SL, he looked like 1st round material all the way...Heck forget 1st round, dude looked like a 5-year NBA veteran out there...The Knicks deserve A TON of credit with the Fields pick - never again will I pop off on a selection of a guy I know little or nothing about. I usually know better...The Knicks have my apologies. I know it'll be tough to crack MDA's tight rotation esp. with all the new talent we brought in that also needs to be assimilated but I still wanna see Mike find a way to incorporate Fields somehow..I think this kid could help us right away.

im the same way right now. the reason i was so pissed is because of the amount of college basketball i watch and never hearing of this kid's name once. i know the same goes for you, you watch even more than me. how we missed this kid i don't know, but we certainly dude. i won't take too much stock into summer-league, but the kid has the nba frame that is necessary to play the game he appears to play. so far so good.

The media gets it wrong 20-30 times a year. How many times has the media and the fans called a guy a stud only to see him fade to nothing, and vice versa. We all think we are talent scouts but none of us are.

Bippity10 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TheGame wrote:Fields was a very accomplished college player that scouts assumed would be too slow and unathletic to succeed in the NBA. He is more quick than fast, that is hard to guage as a scout. I think the scouts underestimated his motor, and the kid made a huge leap in production his senior season, so some scouts might have written him off without really reevaluating what he was doing as a senior. Fields is one of those guys scouts overlook becuase, since he stayed in school for 4 years, they assume he has used up his potential. ONce this kid gets a jumpshot, he is going to be very good and will be hard to keep on the bench. Great draft pick in the second round.

Love this dude..Nevermind the production in SL which was very good (he finished up averaging something like 15.5 & 5) it's all the other things that really make him stand out: his nose for the ball, knack for being in the right place at the right time, his quality handle, rebounding ability, strong take to the basket, surprising defense, steady/smart/mistake-free play, heck I even think he can shoot the ball a lot better than he's being given credit for (respect to you Game but all this "when he gets a jumper he'll be good" stuff is overblown imo - I've heard that from a lot of people so far & it just doesn't ring true, not from what I saw anyway. I think his jumper's quite effective with more-than-decent technique..There are many different players, veteran players in fact, that have far worse looking jumpshots than Fields)...Rarely have I seen such a young player with so many intangibles, esp. a guy flying this far under everyone's radar...

What can I say? The kid impressed the hell out of me..I don't wanna get too crazy here but after watching Fields closely in SL, he looked like 1st round material all the way...Heck forget 1st round, dude looked like a 5-year NBA veteran out there...The Knicks deserve A TON of credit with the Fields pick - never again will I pop off on a selection of a guy I know little or nothing about. I usually know better...The Knicks have my apologies. I know it'll be tough to crack MDA's tight rotation esp. with all the new talent we brought in that also needs to be assimilated but I still wanna see Mike find a way to incorporate Fields somehow..I think this kid could help us right away.

im the same way right now. the reason i was so pissed is because of the amount of college basketball i watch and never hearing of this kid's name once. i know the same goes for you, you watch even more than me. how we missed this kid i don't know, but we certainly dude. i won't take too much stock into summer-league, but the kid has the nba frame that is necessary to play the game he appears to play. so far so good.

The media gets it wrong 20-30 times a year. How many times has the media and the fans called a guy a stud only to see him fade to nothing, and vice versa. We all think we are talent scouts but none of us are.

Except for BoBo, that guy is spot on

Childs2Dudley wrote:I like Bill. I think he'll be okay.

He knows what he has to work on, plus he admitted his new weight has given him a new quickness that he is still adjusting to.

Come on, bro. That's the lamest thing I ever heard. What, did he go from Peter Parker to Spiderman?

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:I like Bill. I think he'll be okay.

He knows what he has to work on, plus he admitted his new weight has given him a new quickness that he is still adjusting to.

Come on, bro. That's the lamest thing I ever heard. What, did he go from Peter Parker to Spiderman?

i think i recall Clyde mentioning in a SL game that he went through that process once too and did have to adjust.

It's called sugarcoating and making excuses. It's really not much of an adjustment. It's all mental for Mr. Walker if he really thinks he has to take this long to adjust to a new quickness that he suddenly woke up with.

Remember, weight loss is gradual, so if you're losing weight gradually, then you're gaining your quickness gradually. Therefore, it's probably not even noticeable to Bill!

CrushAlot wrote:I am with you and I agree with what you said. D'Antoni is arrogant and spoiled and it comes up a lot. That is one of the reasons I hate when he has his smug smile on and jokes with other teams superstars like he and the star are better than everyone else in the arena. His team couldn't even win 30 games. I think this guy is done soon. He wanted a team that had such star power that it didn't need coaching. He got a team with [b]tremendous young talent[\b] that needs good leadership, communication and coaching to be successful. I haven't seen anything from so far that suggests that he can provide that.

While I may agree with your sentiment in general, "tremendous young talent" may be a bit of a stretch.
Its not like we're sitting on a bunch of top 3 picks.
Where do you put us talent-wise vs. the rest of the league?

Allanfan20 wrote:

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:I like Bill. I think he'll be okay.

He knows what he has to work on, plus he admitted his new weight has given him a new quickness that he is still adjusting to.

Come on, bro. That's the lamest thing I ever heard. What, did he go from Peter Parker to Spiderman?

i think i recall Clyde mentioning in a SL game that he went through that process once too and did have to adjust.

It's called sugarcoating and making excuses. It's really not much of an adjustment. It's all mental for Mr. Walker if he really thinks he has to take this long to adjust to a new quickness that he suddenly woke up with.

Remember, weight loss is gradual, so if you're losing weight gradually, then you're gaining your quickness gradually. Therefore, it's probably not even noticeable to Bill!

Anyone remember when Allan Houston came back with GUNS one year? Anyone remember him shooting like garbage at first as a result? Anyone remember him going down with his first leg injury of some sort due to the added weight?

Then finally came back nastier than ever before? All star quality?

Yeah, I do.

Now, Walker is no Houston but...you can tell the guy shed a lot of weight. Anyone who has done this knows you're pretty awkward with yourself for a while. Banging into crap, over or under reaching for things. It takes you a while to re-learn your body. This is fact.

So let Bill prove it that his little SL setbacks are indeed due to the weight loss and awkwardness that comes with that.

If he still sucks mid year then so be it.