DrAlphaeus wrote:http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/walsh-reportedly-pushing-deal-for-mcgrady-that-would-include-jeffries-1.1762910?qr=1

What does Newsday — which is owned by Cablevision, which is owned along a majority of MSG & the Knicks, a publicly traded company, by the beloved Dolan family — have to say here?

BTW, I think Knicks fans should pool their resources and start buying MSG stock and turn stockholder meetings into ESPN-worthy events.

"The Knicks also would have to give up an unprotected first-round pick in 2012."

if they can score lbj+1, no one will care. if they dont, this is curry, part 2.

arkrud wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:You guys are crazy. LeBron and Wade or Bosh, plus Wilson as a glue and great third option guy, plus Gallo as a bench stretch the defense guy, plus a combo guard in TD that is geared to play with a LeBron type point forward, plus a mid-level guy and then a guy at the $ level that Sessions signed for last year...

That's not good enough to make a run?

LeBron, the 2nd Max guy and Wilson are playing 90% of the minutes for their positions if they're here next year. How much depth do we need to fill the other two slots and the 5 minutes that those guys aren't playing?

Gimme a break. Don't get scared of the plan when we're this close to making it happen.

how is it close to happening? all walsh can do is create room. if FA's choose to remain or go elsewhere, whats the plan b? lock in to lower tier FA's and have fun being a 1 and done playoff team for years or worse? i think the issue folks have is there is no plan b visible... you fail to sign the top guys, you leveraged quite a bit for nothing.

OK. Let's say we stay pat.
We sign Lee and wait for some top FA to come. They don't.
We are not going for second tier guys and get some one year renters again. We wait another year and try again with sh..t load of cap space.
We will also have a huge chance to be in the lottery.
Does it look like a plan... for MSG to lose 20-30 millions next year?

we own picks in that route, still have cap space. no prob, as you and others (me included) have said, this team hasnt done anything in a long time. they leverage all that and fail to land anyone plus we no longer have some of the picks? they have to consider the possibility that lbj doesnt sign here and what the game plan is gonna be in that case. if this deal goes down, and lbj+1 signs, no one will care for sure.

arkrud wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/walsh-reportedly-pushing-deal-for-mcgrady-that-would-include-jeffries-1.1762910?qr=1

What does Newsday — which is owned by Cablevision, which is owned along a majority of MSG & the Knicks, a publicly traded company, by the beloved Dolan family — have to say here?

BTW, I think Knicks fans should pool their resources and start buying MSG stock and turn stockholder meetings into ESPN-worthy events.

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Walsh reportedly pushing deal for McGrady that would include Jeffries

February 15, 2010 By ALAN HAHN alan.hahn@newsday.com
Quick Summary

Including the $6.8 million cap hit of Jared Jeffries in a deal for Tracy McGrady could be the key for Donnie Walsh.
The Knicks could pay a

Photo credit: Getty Images | The Knicks could pay a steep price in young talent, but unloading Jared Jeffries' 2010-11 cap hit in a deal for Tracy McGrady would enable Donnie Walsh to make a run at two premiere free agents this summer. (Jan. 24, 2010)

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Though Donnie Walsh downplayed reports of recent conversations he's had with the Rockets about acquiring Tracy McGrady, it is believed that the Knicks' president is pushing a scenario that would include Jared Jeffries to clear $6.8 million off the salary cap in 2010, especially if the Rockets continue to demand that a young asset such as rookie Jordan Hill be involved in any deal.

One trade possibility promoted by Yahoo! Sports last night involved McGrady, who is in the final year of his contract, coming to the Knicks along with Joey Dorsey and Brian Cook for Jeffries, Hill and Al Harrington or Larry Hughes. The Knicks also would have to give up an unprotected first-round pick in 2012.

This report, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, makes up loose parameters of at least one deal Walsh has discussed with the Rockets. Though it would be a precarious mortgage of the future in giving up Hill, the team's 2009 lottery pick, and at least one future unprotected first-rounder, the deal would open more than $9 million in cap space for the summer foray into free agency.

As a result, the Knicks could have enough cap space to make two max contract offers to high-end free agents such as LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, who have talked about teaming up and who put on a heck of a show in Sunday's All-Star Game in Dallas. The Knicks also could eye tandems such as Joe Johnson and Chris Bosh, among other possibilities.

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

It appears Walsh will be very busy before the deadline. On another front, the Celtics still are believed to have great interest in acquiring Nate Robinson.

Nothing is imminent with the McGrady situation, mainly because the Knicks - who are owned by Cablevision, which also owns Newsday - very well could be negotiating against themselves. If a trade happens, it likely won't transpire until right before Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline, and it will be up to Rockets general manager Daryl Morey to pull the trigger. He still might be more inclined to keep McGrady on the payroll the rest of the season.

Apparently, McGrady is anticipating a future in New York. According to a Houston TV station citing sources close to the exiled Rocket, he expects something will be done with the Knicks by "midweek."

Walsh said after practice yesterday, "I'm not going to get into any discussions about trades. There's always a lot of conversations. No sense getting into it. I read things that people write, and some of it I've never seen before or heard before, so it makes no sense getting into it. If something happens, we'll tell you.''

Walsh hasn't seen McGrady himself, but a Knicks representative has watched him work out recently. The team might request a follow-up to ensure he is ready to step into an NBA season that, with 31 games to go, is slipping away from the 19-32 Knicks.

arkrud wrote:What if the second player in the deal is not Al or Larry.. but Eddy?
Is is worth it then with all this picks and Hill included?

When will this senseless sacrificing of picks ever END?!
But we lost all our good front office draft guys when Isiah got his severance package anyway, right?

Eddy too? Definitely Executive of the Year.

arkrud wrote:What if the second player in the deal is not Al or Larry.. but Eddy?
Is is worth it then with all this picks and Hill included?

Eddy, Fishlips, Jordan & a future #1 for T-Mac, Lowry & Dorsey works under the cap & i might consider a deal like that... we'd be gaining $22 million in cap space if u make a deal like that which is a lot more significant than the one that's being rumored now... Dorsey can be a nice piece even tho he's raw... kid is a tenacious rebounder & likes to bang down low, so giving up a future pick for him is not as big of a concern for me... the thing i don't agree with is the swapping of picks in 2011 & throwing in Jordan Hill just to get rid of Fishlips' contract... they need to take back Curry's deal too & also throw us back Kyle Lowry for this deal to even be considerable.

JohnWallace44 wrote:Either Eddy or Jeffries are crazy hard to trade, not just because they're overpaid, or terrible, but they also have... duh duh duh... trade kickers. Its the herpes of the NBA trade world.

Trading them will require anything we can give the other team(s).

That's just the way it is. Sorry.

LOL... there were plenty of people around here saying MDA was doing the right thing by playing Fishlips 35+ a night because he was miraculously raising his trade value... now we're talking about having to throw in 3 potential lottery picks to move him... what a freakin' waste of time playing Fishlips this season... shoulda just been developing Jordan Hill from the very beginning, then maybe we'd be talking about just using Jordan Hill as an asset to dump both Fishlips & Curry's worthless butts off this team

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arkrud wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/walsh-reportedly-pushing-deal-for-mcgrady-that-would-include-jeffries-1.1762910?qr=1

What does Newsday — which is owned by Cablevision, which is owned along a majority of MSG & the Knicks, a publicly traded company, by the beloved Dolan family — have to say here?

BTW, I think Knicks fans should pool their resources and start buying MSG stock and turn stockholder meetings into ESPN-worthy events.

They are saying:

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Walsh reportedly pushing deal for McGrady that would include Jeffries

February 15, 2010 By ALAN HAHN alan.hahn@newsday.com
Quick Summary

Including the $6.8 million cap hit of Jared Jeffries in a deal for Tracy McGrady could be the key for Donnie Walsh.
The Knicks could pay a

Photo credit: Getty Images | The Knicks could pay a steep price in young talent, but unloading Jared Jeffries' 2010-11 cap hit in a deal for Tracy McGrady would enable Donnie Walsh to make a run at two premiere free agents this summer. (Jan. 24, 2010)

GREENBURGH, N.Y. - Though Donnie Walsh downplayed reports of recent conversations he's had with the Rockets about acquiring Tracy McGrady, it is believed that the Knicks' president is pushing a scenario that would include Jared Jeffries to clear $6.8 million off the salary cap in 2010, especially if the Rockets continue to demand that a young asset such as rookie Jordan Hill be involved in any deal.

One trade possibility promoted by Yahoo! Sports last night involved McGrady, who is in the final year of his contract, coming to the Knicks along with Joey Dorsey and Brian Cook for Jeffries, Hill and Al Harrington or Larry Hughes. The Knicks also would have to give up an unprotected first-round pick in 2012.

This report, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, makes up loose parameters of at least one deal Walsh has discussed with the Rockets. Though it would be a precarious mortgage of the future in giving up Hill, the team's 2009 lottery pick, and at least one future unprotected first-rounder, the deal would open more than $9 million in cap space for the summer foray into free agency.

As a result, the Knicks could have enough cap space to make two max contract offers to high-end free agents such as LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, who have talked about teaming up and who put on a heck of a show in Sunday's All-Star Game in Dallas. The Knicks also could eye tandems such as Joe Johnson and Chris Bosh, among other possibilities.

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

It appears Walsh will be very busy before the deadline. On another front, the Celtics still are believed to have great interest in acquiring Nate Robinson.

Nothing is imminent with the McGrady situation, mainly because the Knicks - who are owned by Cablevision, which also owns Newsday - very well could be negotiating against themselves. If a trade happens, it likely won't transpire until right before Thursday's 3 p.m. deadline, and it will be up to Rockets general manager Daryl Morey to pull the trigger. He still might be more inclined to keep McGrady on the payroll the rest of the season.

Apparently, McGrady is anticipating a future in New York. According to a Houston TV station citing sources close to the exiled Rocket, he expects something will be done with the Knicks by "midweek."

Walsh said after practice yesterday, "I'm not going to get into any discussions about trades. There's always a lot of conversations. No sense getting into it. I read things that people write, and some of it I've never seen before or heard before, so it makes no sense getting into it. If something happens, we'll tell you.''

Walsh hasn't seen McGrady himself, but a Knicks representative has watched him work out recently. The team might request a follow-up to ensure he is ready to step into an NBA season that, with 31 games to go, is slipping away from the 19-32 Knicks.

im with this 'nba source' as long as we aren't giving up unprotected draft picks...

crzymdups wrote:

"If this trade happens," one NBA source said, "Donnie Walsh should be Executive of the Year."

here's the quote that matters from the hahn article.

will you prattering ninnies be complaining if we get bron and wade on july 1? no. no you will not.

i just bolded that myself in the post above you crzy.. i don't like the idea of giving up unprotected picks, but we won't know the full fruits of this trade until the FA period is over and done with.

if we get two of the bigtime FA this was a great deal, if we get no one, believe me no one will be calling me a walsh homer anymore.