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GKFv2
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11/21/2008  3:11 PM
Wow, I just might get interested in the Knicks again if Crawford is shipped out.
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11/21/2008  3:14 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Wow, I just might get interested in the Knicks again if Crawford is shipped out.

IF?
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11/21/2008  3:14 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Wow, I just might get interested in the Knicks again if Crawford is shipped out.

He's gone already
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11/21/2008  3:15 PM
Posted by NYK3:
Posted by GKFv2:

Wow, I just might get interested in the Knicks again if Crawford is shipped out.

He's gone already

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11/21/2008  3:15 PM
My bad, I just woke up. I went to sleep at 7 AM lol. Why is Isola writing about Zach to Dallas?
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11/21/2008  3:22 PM
Why did Golden State do this deal??

They have Morrow, Jackson, Maggette, Azubuke

Where does Crawford fit?

Plus when Ellis comes back I doubt he will be stuck playing only PG for 40mins. Did someone other then Ellis get seriously hurt?

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11/21/2008  3:23 PM
my eyeballs hurt from staring at the screen and refreshing
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11/21/2008  3:24 PM
Donnie Walsh is nothing if not patient, and today his patience was rewarded. The New York Knicks' team president traded guard Jamal Crawford to the Golden State Warriors for forward Al Harrington, and in doing so pretty much rolled out the welcome mat for LeBron James in 2010.

The key numbers in this deal are 3 and 2: the three years left on Crawford's contract (including this season) against the two remaining on Harrington's. Because of that difference, New York just created an additional $10 million in cap room in the summer of 2010, a period they've targeted for taking a major dive into the free-agent market -- and the summer when, coincidentally, Cleveland star and noted Yankees fan LeBron James can become a free agent, along with Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Amare Stoudemire, among others.



The Knicks now have just $40.9 million in committed salaries for 2010-11. That number would likely give them enough room to make a maximum offer for the Global Icon, but with only five players on the roster, which might not be realistic. A high first-round pick in 2009 would cut deeply into that number, as would re-signing David Lee or Nate Robinson, or any other contract they gave out that was for more than the minimum. (Glass half-full department: Knicks fans needn't worry about a high pick in 2010 hurting their cap -- Isiah Thomas already took care of that by trading it away.)
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So, more realistically, then, this deal puts Walsh one deal away from being in position to nab James while still hanging on to some of his more desirable assets -- assets which would make the Big Apple a far more palatable destination for James.



Of course, there are any number of cap-reducing deals Walsh could have made in the past few months. One key difference with this trade is that it doesn't hurt his basketball team in the short term.



Crawford is a force as a scorer, but indifferent at best at the defensive end and a fairly low-percentage marksman -- a career 40.3 percent shooter who tends to fall in love with his long-range jumper at the expense of more makeable shots.



The Knicks replace him with the type of small-ball power forward that coach Mike D'Antoni loves. Harrington has shot 35.8 percent for his career on 3-pointers, and he averaged a point every two minutes last season -- just like Crawford. He has adequate size for a power forward, though he's a middling-at-best athlete who rebounds poorly and rarely blocks shots. But with rookie Danilo Gallinari now expected to be out for a big chunk of the season with back problems, New York needed another quality frontcourt player.



Presumably New York will move Wilson Chandler to small forward and Quentin Richardson to the 2, allowing D'Antoni to utilize the same eight-man rotation he's kept to so far this season. Or one tweak might be to open up some more backcourt minutes for Anthony Roberson or Mardy Collins at the expense of Richardson, who is a bit slow and heavy to see regular duty at shooting guard.



For Golden State, this deal is all about immediate improvement. Harrington had been banished to the inactive list -- something Knicks fans might be a bit familiar with -- after demanding a trade early in the year. From that perspective, the Warriors are essentially getting Crawford for free.



With point guard Monta Ellis injured and reserves C.J. Watson, DeMarcus Nelson and Marcus Williams all found wanting, the Warriors were desperate for somebody who could bring the ball upcourt, initiate offense and occasionally ignite the transition game. While Crawford isn't anyone's idea of a true point guard, he'll be a vast improvement on what's passed for point guard play in the Bay Area thus far.



Golden State will play small and push the tempo with Crawford, Stephen Jackson, Corey Maggette and either Anthony Morrow or Kelenna Azubuike on the outside, while rising star Andris Biedrins mans the middle. Once Ellis comes back around midseason, the Warriors will likely move Crawford to the 2 and bring youngsters Morrow and Azubuike off the bench.



The cap implications aren't as important for Golden State -- the Warriors had already forfeited any shot at serious cap space in 2010 with last week's ridiculous three-year, $27 million extension to Stephen Jackson. But in a weakened West, they now seem set to take aim at the playoff spot that eluded them in the final week a season ago.



So in a nutshell, the Warriors improved their present without severely impacting their future, while the Knicks improved their future without severely impacting their present. All the attention will be on the latter aspect because of the implications for the Great LeBron Sweepstakes. But don't underestimate the former -- the path to a spot in the West's top eight just got measurably tougher, so fans in places like Dallas and Denver should care about this trade just as much as those in Cleveland.

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11/21/2008  3:24 PM
Posted by Elite:

my eyeballs hurt from staring at the screen and refreshing

hahahahahahahaha me too man, also we should change the title of this thread. It says Malik
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11/21/2008  3:27 PM
Just from a $$$ spot-----do you think the clipper owner will sit pretty with kaman davis and Randolph on the spot in 2011 for 43mm? The cap could drop substantially by then???? and they would still need to sign 10 more players
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11/21/2008  3:29 PM
Official Press Release:

The New York Knickerbockers President of Basketball Operations Donnie Walsh announced today that forward Al Harrington has been acquired from the Golden State Warriors in exchange for guard Jamal Crawford.

“I drafted Al back in 1998 and I think his talents are a great fit for our style of play,” Walsh said. “This trade also gives us more long-term flexibility while enabling us to remain competitive this season. To acquire a player of Al’s caliber, we had to give up someone we all really liked in Jamal. We thank him for his contributions both on and off the court, and we wish him all the best in Golden State.”

Harrington, 6-9, 250-pounds, was selected by the Indiana Pacers with 25th overall selection in the 1998 NBA Draft out of St. Patrick’s High School in Elizabeth, NJ. The Orange, NJ-native has career averages of 13.0 points and 5.8 rebounds in 660 career games over 11 NBA seasons with Indiana, Atlanta and Golden State. Harrington averaged 13.6 points and 5.4 rebounds in 81 games during the 2007-08 season with Golden State and is averaging 12.4 points and 5.6 rebounds in five games during 2008-09 campaign.

“Al is a true NBA veteran who possesses multi-positional skills,” Head Coach Mike D’Antoni said. “He will fit perfectly into our system and will help us win some games immediately.”

Crawford, 6-5, 200-pounds, was originally acquired by the Knicks on Aug. 5, 2004 from the Chicago Bulls and averaged 17.6 points and 4.4 assists in 299 career games with New York. He finishes his Knicks career as the franchise’s 25th all-time leading scorer with 5,269 points. The Michigan product has career averages of 14.7 points and 4.1 assists in 543 games over nine NBA seasons with both New York and Chicago.
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11/21/2008  3:32 PM
always sad when a long term knick leaves no matter what
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11/21/2008  3:32 PM
No Picks or young guys.
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11/21/2008  3:43 PM
One thing I have to say,

This trade instantly improves our toughness. Jamal was soft as a muffin... Harrington has an edge to him. Celtics beware
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11/21/2008  3:43 PM
Posted by Elite:

always sad when a long term knick leaves no matter what

Yes, I agree, like when Jerome James leaves.

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Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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11/21/2008  4:09 PM
isola is saying the ZBO deal went down, too?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/11/21/2008-11-21_knicks_trade_jamal_crawford_for_al_harri.html
Knicks trade Jamal Crawford for Al Harrington, ship Zach Randolph and Mardy Collins to Clippers
BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Friday, November 21st 2008, 3:59 PM


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Al Harrington
The Knicks completed a wild day of trading on Friday when they sent Zach Randolph and Mardy Collins to the Clippers for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley. The deal comes less than two hours after Donnie Walsh traded Jamal Crawford to the Warriors for Al Harrington.

Both deals were made to clear salary cap space for the summer of 2010 for when LeBron James becomes a free agent. The contracts of Harrington, Thomas and Mobley all expire in two years which will put the Knicks in position to make a run at James, the most coveted free agent since Shaquille O'Neal left the Orlando Magic to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 21-11-2008 4:10 PM]
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11/21/2008  4:44 PM
Well, two big trade withouth getting any pick or young player in return is quite concerning for our rebuilding process...
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11/21/2008  4:46 PM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

Well, two big trade withouth getting any pick or young player in return is quite concerning for our rebuilding process...

Doubt anyone is giving up picks for long-term salaries. They're the ones doing the Knicks the favor.
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11/21/2008  4:52 PM
What ? Can you just remind me how we got Crawford, Curry, Marbury, ... ?

Craw and Zbo were our two best players, so not getting any pick is VERY disappointing.

Anyway, I never agree with a single of your post !
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11/21/2008  4:53 PM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

What ? Can you just remind me how we got Crawford, Curry, Marbury, ... ?

Craw and Zbo were our two best players, so not getting any pick is VERY disappointing.

Anyway, I never agree with a single of your post !

Isiah Thomas traded for them. Enough said.
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