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Game Thread; Knicks in Denver looking for a Gold Nugget ! They might find a lump of Coal instead !
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nyk4ever
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11/17/2007  11:55 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Dude are you friggen serious?


It seems that too many of you are convinced that this team is incapable of playing better and I disagree.


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I think the past tells the true story about your statement. Nix, I love you man, but I think you're a bit out of touch.
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bitty41
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11/17/2007  11:57 PM
Posted by King1:

Bitty I think everyone get secnd chances you would think after 6 or 7 incidents he would get it. You never hear me killing the guys that may struggle on the floor but are good people. Curry, Jamal, and Quentin want to win. I get on Steph and Zach because of how they act

These "incidents" come on underage drinking, a fight with a teammate, someone speeding in his cars, a smell of pot in his car, these are the things you want to condemn him for?
How can you say your for second chances when Zach hasn't even played a full month in a Knicks uniform and already your calling him a cancer. If Zach doesn't use this time in NY to finally get his act together than I will absolutely agree with you.
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11/17/2007  11:58 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Did MSG air Isiah's postgame remarks?


hell no
FireIsiah
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11/17/2007  11:59 PM
Cirque de Soleil is the only way i am going to the garden this year. i have had enough of this garbage team for 3 years now. i will never attend a game a long as the coach Isiah Lord Thomas is here. This team has been misassembled for years and no one sees it in the front office. The time has come for Isiah to be out of basketball for good. He will never get hired again.
I want to leave something that's going to stand for a long timeI want to leave a legacy,I want to leave tradition.I want to leave an imprint,a blueprint in terms of how people play,and how they coach and how they respond when they put on the Knick uni.
King1
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11/17/2007  11:59 PM
Bitty I can live with that if he stays clean the whole year then I will agree with you. If he doesnt then we can call him a cancer. Can we get him to shoot at least 47% fron the field also
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11/17/2007  11:59 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by islesfan:

Did MSG air Isiah's postgame remarks?


hell no



I was watching on LP and saw the game in it's entirety did the technical difficulties get fixed on MSG's end?
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islesfan
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11/18/2007  12:01 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Dude are you friggen serious?

Yes I am! What was even remotely proven by this roadtrip? You think that this is really what this team is about? I don't. I don't think this team is as bad as the 2-7 would seem to indicate. I think this team is still capable of doing what was expected of it at the start of the year. I'm not backing Isiah, so don't get that in your head. I'm talking about the players on this team. A lot of teams go thru losing streaks and that doesn't dictate the entire year. Everyone is just so happy that this has happened cuz they want to see Isiah gone, but that's not what i'm focused on. I'm not sitting here gleeful that my team is losing. I NEVER ROOT FOR MY TEAM TO LOSE! NEVER!

Further I don't think Zach was in top form after all he's been thru nor the rest of the team on this trip. I KNOW they're going to play better. So you can all think i'm crazy if you want, but i'm not going to cave like many of you have already. Not after 9 games. Just the same as I wouldn't say they're gonna win a title if they had won all these games. All I've said is that I Expect this team to play up to the level expected of them. One losing streak shouldn't change that. Everyone is now micro evaluating the season and since when do we do that? Any stretch of games by itself doesn't make a season. That's all i'm saying.

It seems that too many of you are convinced that this team is incapable of playing better and I disagree.

If they had won all 4 games, would you be posting that something had been proven?
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11/18/2007  12:03 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by islesfan:

Did MSG air Isiah's postgame remarks?


hell no



I was watching on LP and saw the game in it's entirety did the technical difficulties get fixed on MSG's end?


Yes, but the Rangers were on the main channel so they had the game on MSG-2. After the game they had a bunch of commercials and then they killed MSG-2, with the Rangers still on MSG.
King1
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11/18/2007  12:03 AM
Holfresh just curious you still backing Zeke
Cosmic
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11/18/2007  12:05 AM
I didn't do it here but I did on another forum. Not that it was hard. Not that it was incomprehensible. But I figured the Nuggets would drop a 30 point blowout on our heads.

It was too easy to see it coming IMO. If this does not end the Isiah era then we're stuck with him for the season I'd figure.

Anyways, maybe you're a Knick fan who enjoys trainwrecks, maybe you're a Nuggets fan or knows of one who would want to watch this mess:



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Knicks - Nuggets - Full Game File
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First Half File:

[url=http://www.zshare.net/video/498077008865d2/]First Half Click Me[/url]

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Second Half File:

[url=http://www.zshare.net/video/4981660c213779/]Second Half Click Me[/url]

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This is the 11/17 Knicks-Nuggets game minus a few FTs and play stoppage.




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bitty41
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11/18/2007  12:05 AM
Posted by King1:

Bitty I can live with that if he stays clean the whole year then I will agree with you. If he doesnt then we can call him a cancer. Can we get him to shoot at least 47% fron the field also

Stop with the cancer he hasn't been controversial he's kept his mouth shut and has thus far avoided getting sucked into the Isiah/Marburygate. That in itself is an accomplishment. Yes the shooting needs to get better but so does Jamal, Q, Nate for 2pt range, Mardy, Balkman,
Cosmic
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11/18/2007  12:06 AM
ah crap... I forgot the syntax here:

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Knicks - Nuggets - Full Game File
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First Half File:

First Half Click Me

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Second Half File:

Second Half Click Me

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This is the 11/17 Knicks-Nuggets game minus a few FTs and play stoppage.

http://popcornmachine.net/ A must-use tool for NBA stat junkies!
King1
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11/18/2007  12:08 AM
Bitty will take the cancer back you would think we wont 33 games last year and added a all star power forward. You would think we would be a better team, do you really think this team can win 33 games this year?
bitty41
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11/18/2007  12:11 AM
Hell no this team sucks but seriously how many players in the NBA period would be able to succeed under these circustances? If your list is long your fooling yourself this is the worst organization to play basketball for on the planet right now.
King1
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11/18/2007  12:20 AM
I agree with everything you just said in that post.
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11/18/2007  12:33 AM
Papabear Says

I would let this team play out the season and go for a high lottery pick like a franchise player.Let who ever else is coming off the payroll come off. The problem with the Knicks is that they are not a smart team and the damage is already done. No super star is coming to New York let's face it. All of the GMs hate Zeke and do not want to do business with him. Zeke picked this team and he picked Curry who can't rebound, can't defend. This is not an intelegent team. They are very uneducated in the game of basketball. Zeke can say it's us against the world but this team just might be the worst team in the league. All Zach do is get the ball and shoot weather or not he has a good look. I would keep Zeke and let him run out the season with the worst record in the league. Lets get that lottery pick Then a new GM and Coach just might get us a star player to go with our lottery pick. The sooner we start all over the quicker we will have a playoff team. David Lee, Balkman , Collin, and N8 are all none starters on any good team in the NBA Lets face it. This will be a painfull season. What I don't want to happen is for another coach to come in and we win 38 games kicking us out of the chance of getting the top 2 lottery picks. This is the only way to rebuild, get a lottery franchise player. This team is not going anywhere and my reason for this is that they are not an inteligent team. You can see that as they play. They will not play defense , they keep turning the ball over and our young players are not as good as other young player in this league. You give the ball to Zach and he will never pass it out to another play who may be open. He just shoots the ball no matter what.
I am a Knicks die hard fan and I'm a Knicks lover but we need a franchise player and the only way to get him is through the draft. Keep Isiah and maybe we win 20 games at the rate we are going or if Zeke gets fired bring in Herb Williams.
I'm not wishing for the Knicks to lose but the hand writing is on the wall.

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arkrud
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11/18/2007  12:35 AM
Yep. This is getting so bad that the dirt is starting to boil over to all NBA.
Something is going to happened and very soon....
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11/18/2007  12:36 AM
PapaBear:

Your pouridge is too hot.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/18/2007  12:40 AM
Posted by bobs3304:

PapaBear:

Your pouridge is too hot.

LOL...Bobs, you can be a real jerk, but good for some laughs.
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11/18/2007  12:40 AM
All you guys whining and complaining about this early hiccup. Let me remind you all that we are indeed younger and more athletic. Some of you guys overlook that.
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Game Thread; Knicks in Denver looking for a Gold Nugget ! They might find a lump of Coal instead !

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