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TrueBlue
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6/23/2007  8:39 PM
Classic


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=808914271



and then this just gave me chills what a song to make as an exit. Wayne will never have this kind of reception no matter how many BP's exist.


My All time Favorite of his

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-23-2007 7:40 PM]
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6/24/2007  10:01 AM
Sales does not tell you who is the best rapper.

Where does Big L stand when it comes to greatest rappers?

Jay-z's reasonable doubt sounded nothing like anything nas did at the time. Jay has always been a ****y rapper and his flow is legendary that way. That's Brooklyn. Jay if anything sounds a lot like big daddy Kane. Jay-z gives Kane his props all day.

Again, if you base sales on anything rap related you are...misinformed...for lack of a better word.

The hip-hop now is hip-pop.

The party I went to the other day there were kids who didn't know the song "just got paid" by Johnny Kemp. They also didn't know any of big daddy kanes hits, etc.

Stupid thread by the way.

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6/24/2007  11:05 AM
Hating? To say someone is hating on anothers music simply because they don't like it is ignorant.

I don't like any of the new music out period. They could get money all they want. I'm not counting their dollars.

Mc hammer was wack. Nobody in nyc was playing mc hammer. The dude always got his props for dancing, but he was wack on the mic. He sold an insane amount of records and nyc didn't even blink, At least in the hip-hop community.

Lil Wayne is wack to me. He is hot right now. Dude is still wack. He's rich but he is still wack. I'm a man. I'm not counting or gonna sit and dick ride another man cuz of how much paper he has.

If you are gonna admire a dude for his craft and skill fine. To say someone is better simply because of sales is ignorant.
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6/24/2007  11:25 AM
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LOL this guy is a clown b. Yo he just want to get his posts up. Bigpimpin is a 14yr old kid from the suburbs.



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6/24/2007  11:27 AM
^^^^LMAO
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6/24/2007  11:28 AM
Bigpimpin = obvious jay-z reference. Not sure if anyone even mentioned that. In 2004 when you first logged on to this site, how deep were you riding jay-z's beyonce pole? Was jay the best then cuz of album sales? How did you feel about lil Wayne back then? Why didn't you call yourself lil weezy?

I'd have to say bigpimpin is the most useless poster in this forum. Kinda reminds me of how annoying playa was back in the day.
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6/24/2007  12:02 PM
Enyspree stalking is a felony dawg.

Your threads aint as hot as you think they are either.

swishfm3, is that really you on that pic? Love the Black Panther shirt.
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6/24/2007  12:06 PM
Yall mad cause Lil Wayne, Jeezy and TI dumping on you lames. enyspree I bet you are the kind of dude who falls in love with the neighborhood whore and play daddy to her kids. That's you aint it dawg. You hate the daddy because his game was tigher than yours. You hate what deep down inside you want to be


I don't know what you thinking player but cash rules everything around me dawg. Aint nobody rappin for free. But you.

You are ignorant. Hammer sold 30 something million CDs. Of course New York supported Hammer. You can't sell that many CDs without hella support in NEw York.

Lame.
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6/24/2007  12:13 PM
Yall mad cause the Dirty South got the rap game that started in New York on LOCK. It's killing yall aint it. The home of the great legends like 2Pac, Biggie, Nas, Jay and Wu but you don't have anyone in the game that is hot. That's what yall mad about aint it. Awww.

It aint hip hop down south -- its Hustler Musik. Lames cannot do hustler musik. Jay Z weak asz got killed on the song big pimpin by Pimp C and Bun B. Even Fat Joe making it rain, lolololol. New York is a city filled with lames. And you steady talkign about Lil Wayne not living the life he raps about. DO YOU THINK BIGGIE DID? OR NAS? OR JAY? IDIOT THEY ARE RAPPERS!!!





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6/24/2007  12:15 PM
Oh, I forgot y'all got 50 Cents! New York buys his garbage CDs.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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6/24/2007  12:16 PM
CBD, I'm a hater like you dawg. Hip Hop is dead! ahahahahahahahahahaha. But Hustler Musik is alive and kicking

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6/24/2007  12:26 PM
Hip Hop is DEAD. It's now called TRAP MUSIC or HUSTLER MUSIK. AInt no one in NY who can TRAP, so DIE!

Tell Nas to get at me.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

New York don't want no problems....and yall know yall don't.

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6/24/2007  12:35 PM
bigpimpin, you are definately a lil wayne fan, i give you that. i will agree that hip hop has changed over time and you have embraced the change. that is good for you. but we are talking about objective views of the art. we all come from all walks of life and hip hop has played a role in most of our lives one way or another. i was born approxiamtely the same time hip hop was born so the music has been dear to me. i live " i used to love h.e.r." from common because i saw it grow into the multi-lucrative industry it is now. what i do have a problem is the fact that you can not embrace or respect the history of it. you ask another person what they know about hip hop being 20 years old while at 24 you are still a "newcomer" in my eyes and you comparing lil wayne to legends menas you still have a lot to learn. sure all of them are old but just because wayne is hot now doesn't mena he will remain hot. jay built an empire and though i do question some of his decision ( he should have stayed retired), he has done more for hip hop in the past ten years than probably any other rapper. but you are right, the past is the past. let us talk about the present. that southern music is crap. you know why6? it is redundant. i swear, they recycle the same beats over and over again. i will admit that ti does change it a little bit but lyrically they are garbage. i don't care who you are or when you are born, when you hear garbage it is garbage. now not all of today's hip hop is mess. i see cats like papoose ( why don't lil wayne get HIM in a booth and see who will win?) or joell ortiz and realize that hip hop is not dead. they are the reallest emcees out there and yeah they don't sell more records. however you mentioned hammer selling more records in the 90's. does that make him a better mc than big daddy kane? THINK.
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6/24/2007  12:44 PM
Yo hes a loser. Hes mad fake. dont even bother with him.
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6/24/2007  12:52 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Sales does not tell you who is the best rapper.

Where does Big L stand when it comes to greatest rappers?

Jay-z's reasonable doubt sounded nothing like anything nas did at the time. Jay has always been a ****y rapper and his flow is legendary that way. That's Brooklyn. Jay if anything sounds a lot like big daddy Kane. Jay-z gives Kane his props all day.

Again, if you base sales on anything rap related you are...misinformed...for lack of a better word.

The hip-hop now is hip-pop.

The party I went to the other day there were kids who didn't know the song "just got paid" by Johnny Kemp. They also didn't know any of big daddy kanes hits, etc.

Stupid thread by the way.

Eny- Not trying to get into an argument, but go back and listen to "Dead President" and tell me that doesn't sound like a cut off of Illmatic.

Yes, Jay has his own style (yes heavily influenced by Kane, and Biggie) but its well documented that Jay was/is a huge Nas fan. He wanted Nas on Reasonable doubt and Volume 1. Wnted Nas in a few of his videos, even sampled Nas' voice about three times.

And Biggie wasn't the only one that Jay bit lines from. He spit a few lines on various songs that sounded like lines Nas already spit. (From the womb to the tomb/pass it around the room/" Jay said that line on the Blueprint album. Nas spit that same line on Raekwons "Verbal intercourse"

Jay also said in a verse, "S.Dots on my feets/ make my cypher complete/.." Nas said a similar line in "The world is yours". They are others. But my point is. Jay z was/is a huge Nas fan.......And yes he was influenced by him.


[Edited by - bigbeast on 24-06-2007 12:53 PM]
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6/24/2007  12:54 PM
There's about 10 rappers I would name right now if Wayne got in the booth with them his career would end.

This was seriously one of the worst compilations of posting ever on this board.
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6/24/2007  12:55 PM
jazz, you know what, I really respect your post. I understand your points.

I will be the firsat to tell that Lil Wayne, Jeezy nor TI can hold their own with Big, Pac, the old Jay Z, Method, Pun and some others but as far as here and now, those old skool legends and great 90s rappers aint getting at these cats now. I think the philosphy is different and thats where the problems lie. Trap Music doesn't care who is the best; it only cares who is the hottest. You can be the best but I prefer the hottest. And yes, that may have something to do with the lifestyle I live but its real. Aint no Common song jammin at the club. Please believe. So we aint gettin at Common. And for all the talk everyone is sayiong about Common -- his best days are behind him. I like Talib and JDilla on my MP3 player but they aint hot dawg. You feel me

I know sales do not dictate legendary. It only dictates what is hot. But I didn't make the comment originally. One of the other posters did, so I stayed along that line of thought so everyone could expose his charade. And they did. I am a big Kam fan and he never sold anything. So I know it aint all about sales but I think if you was a rapper, you'd rather be on Def Jam than Independant Records. So SALES do mean something. At least give me that.

Its an age old argument. This or that. This or that. Old vs New.
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6/24/2007  12:57 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

There's about 10 rappers I would name right now if Wayne got in the booth with them his career would end.

His career would end in what city? The Dirty South aint in love with booth rappers. Are you even listening?

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6/24/2007  12:59 PM
Good post, bigbeast.

They think Jay is a God but without the death of 2Pac and Biggie, he would have been the second-tier, biting off other styles rapper he is.

enyspree, you seem to forget that Jay raps about money, cars, clothes, bling, broads, and wasteless excess. He doesn't rhyme about anything that can uplift a culture.

For every CD he has, its heavily influenced by another artist. Unlike Pun, Pac and Biggie or even Nas -- Jay Z doesn't have SHEEEEEEET to say

dawg

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6/24/2007  1:03 PM
Lil Wayne will never have a commercial hit come close to this one of Nas




or this one





or this one






[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-24-2007 12:04 PM]
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