reub wrote:If you read the Wikileaks info you'll see that Hillary has had this plan of oversampling polls for over a year.

Also, please note that 7 million more Democrats voted in the 2008 Democratic primary than in this year's and yet the mainstream polling assumes that the turnout (and enthusiasm) is the same among Democrats when it clearly is not. Btw, Republican primary voting has increased by millions and yet these bogus polls assume that their enthusiasm is down.

People have been trying to warn Trump supporters forever that he can't win with just his base. And he has pretty much turned off every imaginable group outside of his base. Muslims, women, African-americans, Latinos, LGBTQ community (selecting Pence pretty much eliminated them) have all been disparaged by Trump...but yet he's gonna win? And I haven't seen any evidence that millennials support him either. There aren't enough deplorables to get him to the finish line. Keep hope alive.

Bonn1997 wrote:

reub wrote:If you read the Wikileaks info you'll see that Hillary has had this plan of oversampling polls for over a year.

Also, please note that 7 million more Democrats voted in the 2008 Democratic primary than in this year's and yet the mainstream polling assumes that the turnout (and enthusiasm) is the same among Democrats when it clearly is not. Btw, Republican primary voting has increased by millions and yet these bogus polls assume that their enthusiasm is down.

So these polling companies that have been around for decades are risking their reputations just to make Hillary happy?!

Trump can't win this election...however, Clinton can still lose it to him. Trump has no control over his fate.

reub wrote:Reputations mean nothing to radical leftists with an agenda. The NY Times has already stated that they are suspending their journalistic integrity this election cycle to elect their candidate. They're not the only ones.

The NY Times radical leftists? Ha! That lets me know you ain't met any real leftists!

reub wrote:Reputations mean nothing to radical leftists with an agenda. The NY Times has already stated that they are suspending their journalistic integrity this election cycle to elect their candidate. They're not the only ones.

reub wrote:Reputations mean nothing to radical leftists with an agenda. The NY Times has already stated that they are suspending their journalistic integrity this election cycle to elect their candidate. They're not the only ones.

So the democrats, African-Americans, women, media, LGBTQ, Latinos, hollywood elites, etc. are all against Trump and conspiring to prevent his election. If so many groups are against him, what's the justification for him being president again?

Nalod wrote:Hillary is going after the senate and weakening the house.
Trump will be a tainted man after this cycle. He will gain viewers from Fox.
Those who supported him will have those words haunt them in their next election.
If a Trump/Putin connection is truly found the word "Treason" could be in the conversation.
Republicans too will move away even further from him. He won't have a friend left.
Guliani will be done. No Cred left.

Briggs, the Donald that is now being recognized is the one many of us who were amazed this sack of shyt got the nomination to begin with.
Its easy to see how many who really wanted change gravitated to him. Change need come from the local elections and from term limits and citizens united going away.

And remember, Obama never came for anyones guns! NRA plays its constituents well.

Not an If for me BTW, I predict within a year the tie will be made.

Also, Hilary in a landslide.

And would love to see the quote from them that you say is them saying they are suspending their journalistic integrity for this election cycle.

earthmansurfer wrote:Not sure what you mean about skipping ahead.

See last post. Connecting this to Clinton and the DNC directly. That's the leap you've made here.

I'm an ex-IT guy. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to actually know where a hack of this nature actually came from? It borders on the ridiculous.

Ah, so you think you're on the cutting edge of the technology and information gather operatives available to the intelligence community?

Got it.

The better question is why is the stance to dismiss the possibility of the Russians rather than entertain the possibility. Trump and now you seem to reject the idea, rather than acknowledge the potential.

It's an interesting choice.

And an entire intelligence community is NOT a bunch of IT experts, not sure how you can make a blanket statement like that as it sort of makes no sense.

No they are not. But whoever is doing it are people. People talk, people communicate. That is the nature of hack in fact, revealing otherwise private communication.

The intelligence is more than just tracking computer code and you're being ignorant if you believe otherwise.

I love America and what it (used to) represent (and somewhat still does), just think the government got away from us (as do most Americans, apparently, not to mention some presidential candidates.)

If the government got away from us, it's because we gave it away.

The House is fully elected every 2 years. The President every 4. The senate every 6.

The people have every power to change it. They choose what we have.

This is my biggest issue with conspiracy theorist such as yourself.

It is the repudiation of any responsibility for their lot in life. It is apathy is another forum. It is the definition of irresponsible.

It is unAmerican.