Garrett2010PSD wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

Garrett2010PSD wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:DET just renounced Wiseman also...

Would love Wiseman on the Knicks.

I don't know our cap situation but couldn't we use an exception on him?

yes can't imagine he'd command much.

[Sidery] The Pistons will soon renounce James Wiseman making him an unrestricted free agent. Instead of giving Wiseman a 1-year qualifying offer, Detroit prefers to clear more cap space. The former No. 2 overall pick will be an intriguing buy-low option on the veteran’s minimum market.

I would jump all over that. Low risk, high reward.

Andre Drummond/ DeAndre Jordan could be other vet min ring chasing backup big options.

Garrett2010PSD wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Garrett2010PSD wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

Garrett2010PSD wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:DET just renounced Wiseman also...

Would love Wiseman on the Knicks.

I don't know our cap situation but couldn't we use an exception on him?

yes can't imagine he'd command much.

[Sidery] The Pistons will soon renounce James Wiseman making him an unrestricted free agent. Instead of giving Wiseman a 1-year qualifying offer, Detroit prefers to clear more cap space. The former No. 2 overall pick will be an intriguing buy-low option on the veteran’s minimum market.

I would jump all over that. Low risk, high reward.

Andre Drummond/ DeAndre Jordan could be other vet min ring chasing backup big options.

I would take Drummond definitely. Not sure what Jordan has left though.

Right, plus Jordan and Joker are tight.

1 Celtics
2 Knicks
3 Philly
4 Indiana
5 Bucks
6 Cleveland
7 Orlando
8 Miami

JesseDark wrote:I see the east as:

1 Celtics
2 Knicks
3 Philly
4 Indiana
5 Bucks
6 Cleveland
7 Orlando
8 Miami

You need glasses.

JesseDark wrote:I see the east as:

1 Celtics
2 Knicks
3 Philly
4 Indiana
5 Bucks
6 Cleveland
7 Orlando
8 Miami

Where you all see Knicks league wide?

Panos wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!

OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.

The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.

Love this trade for the Knicks.

Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly

No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.

why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.

I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.

The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.

Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.

Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.

We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)

OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.

OG is getting paid. He's not giving a discount. He's a high impact player who gets hurt alot. He's 26. This is the time he's getting paid and that's fine. I do believe Randle/Brunson will both take team friendlier deal but time will tell.

Get ready for 5/$200mm for OG. It's fine.

My god what rotation Leon has handed to Thibs. We have a legit multi-year window for a title here with nobody aging out. The only concern is paying guys in the future and how that plays out. Lovely problem to have.

We will see how center plays out. IHart's best thing is availability. He can always play. I think his passing isnt missed w/ Randle coming back and being a primary ball handler.

Sorry at those numbers for OG, I pass.

thats more or less what he's getting. pass for what? To make Dolan richer? We have his bird rights, we cant use the cap anywhere else.

No way we let OG go now, this is the ALL IN move.

DLeethal wrote:I think the idea we overpaid is kind of off base. If someone traded a really good young player and 3 firsts nobody would blink. Knicks traded a bunch of late picks and a potentially iffy one 7 years from now and gave up no players at all. Also paid the Hudson River tax. Still not a massive overpay.

And another thing, a bunch of late firsts have FAR less value than even just one lottery pick.

nycericanguy wrote:

Panos wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:This is a GREAT trade!

OG was a great fit for the Knicks but paying 35-40 million for an oft injured, 3rd option, would have been insane.

The picks, at the very least the first 2, would be high FRP.

Love this trade for the Knicks.

Now, if the Knicks are indeed moving on from OG, lets all hope he doesn't land in Philly

No way you let OG walk. This move was made putting all the chips on the table. Letting OG walk after the price you just paid for Mikal with down the line draft picks would be insane. You pay OG his $40mil, get the chip or 2, then trade him when Mikal & Randle extensions start to kick in.

why would you trade OG instead of just letting Randle walk who will be 32 then and declining.

I think if Brunson signs the cheaper extension now, which I think he will, we won't have any issue keeping this team together.

The only player who needs to take LESS is OG Anunoby.

Asking Brunson to take a discount just because they got an old college teammate to run with his is asinine.

Asking a two time All-NBA player and multiple All-Star to take a discount, is asinine.

We go after players like Melo because we believe all he cared about was money but for some odd reason, OG gets a pass.
(if all rumors are true)

OG was a great fit for the Knicks and Bridges will be JUST AS GOOD. I think some of us are focusing too much on these draft picks. Draft picks are a crap shoot (See RJ, Quickley, Grimes, Toppin) and the chances of getting a player of Bridges caliber are slim to none.

OG is getting paid. He's not giving a discount. He's a high impact player who gets hurt alot. He's 26. This is the time he's getting paid and that's fine. I do believe Randle/Brunson will both take team friendlier deal but time will tell.

Get ready for 5/$200mm for OG. It's fine.

My god what rotation Leon has handed to Thibs. We have a legit multi-year window for a title here with nobody aging out. The only concern is paying guys in the future and how that plays out. Lovely problem to have.

We will see how center plays out. IHart's best thing is availability. He can always play. I think his passing isnt missed w/ Randle coming back and being a primary ball handler.

Sorry at those numbers for OG, I pass.

thats more or less what he's getting. pass for what? To make Dolan richer? We have his bird rights, we cant use the cap anywhere else.

No way we let OG go now, this is the ALL IN move.

Yeah you can't give up all those draft picks for Bridges then let OG leave.

We must keep OG.

martin wrote:

JesseDark wrote:I see the east as:

1 Celtics
2 Knicks
3 Philly
4 Indiana
5 Bucks
6 Cleveland
7 Orlando
8 Miami

Where you all see Knicks league wide?

I gotta see how the west shakes out. Gotta figure Denver is still in first though the lost to Minnesota.

EwingPSD wrote:

firefly wrote:

DLeethal wrote:I think the idea we overpaid is kind of off base. If someone traded a really good young player and 3 firsts nobody would blink. Knicks traded a bunch of late picks and a potentially iffy one 7 years from now and gave up no players at all. Also paid the Hudson River tax. Still not a massive overpay.

And another thing, a bunch of late firsts have FAR less value than even just one lottery pick.

Come on. The Knicks overpaid based on market value. They just don't care and they shouldn't. This often happens on teams trying to go from really good to great. For example, the Bucks overpaid for Jrue based on market value. They also went and won a title. The Sixers thought Tobias Harries was important to their title hopes so they overpaid to retain him. Both teams knew they were overpaying. It doesn't look good for Philly because it didn't work but unless you want to be the grit and grind Griz or the Mark Price Cavs it is a risk teams often have to take to get to the top.

Man, some of you guys. Really only 2 of the picks could be considered ‘premium’ picks and even that is a crap shoot.