GustavBahler wrote:Chandler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Chandler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Chandler wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Vmart wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:I give FIzdale credit. If he coaches like this often we are gonna have a fun season because we have talent and depth. I really want the “experts” to eat a ton of crow 
If not for injuries Frank doesn’t even play any significant minutes. The sad part is fans knew when our coach was driving home Perry’s agenda of ostracizing Phil’s draft picks. Far as I’m concerned Perry and Fizdale should be fired on the spot for their negligence.
Cant believe you actually wrote this. Not 24 hours after saying that Fizdale hates Frank and wants to keep him buried on the bench, he gets important minutes in a our first win. Is brought back in the game, even though he couldnt find the rim. Was doing other things well.
Your theory about Fizdale (just 3 games into the season) was blown to hades. There is a long line at PG, Fizdale could have kept Frank on the bench. Some of you are still butt hurt over Phil. Worst record in franchise history as an exec. Accept it and move on. Frank will sink or swim on what he does on the court, not who picked him.
does the current FO get a mulligan for last year?
It's clear you hate Phil, but he was trying to play a hand with limited cap, no picks etc and his bad era still did better than last year
Sorry to wake you up from your happy dream
I watched Phil play at MSG, win a ring. Was happy to see him hired. Was one of his biggest defenders until Rose/Noah. Its clear you dont know what the F you are talking about. Im no Phil fanboy. When he did good I said so, when he F'ed up, did the same.
Frank got PT hours after some of you were carping about Fizdale's agenda towards him. Instead of admitting you were wrong, you drag Phil back into the conversation. Fanboys.
What are you 12?
you said Phil's era was the worst record which is demonstrably wrong
Do you think Fizz was giving Frank the minutes without the DSJ family situation? That's not what he implied post-Celtics game, when he said he heard the chants but he's gonna coach the team his way (i.e., not the fan's)
Listen any reasonable fan wanted Phil to succeed. He didn't. Some here -- notably Crush -- outlined a number of foibles long before other
The fact that Phil sucked doesn't mean the current FO is good.
No, 12 year olds accuse others of hating Phil because they dont reflexively defend every move he made as an exec. 80-166, worst, second worst, who cares? Its one of the worst performances by a Knicks exec in franchise history. Thats what you are defending. Thats what you Phil fanboys keep digging up. as a response to why Frank isnt a starter by now.
Its hatred of Phil, by Fizdale, Perry, Mills, the guy who sells pretzels. One big tin foil conspiracy. Its childish.
You are delusional, and just throwing sh!t around.
I wanted Phil to succeed and many times applauded his philosophy. But i also came to the conclusion (aided by many sensible posters here) that his execution sucked and he made many mistakes. I still hold those views. I also acknowledge he came in with something of a deck stacked against him -- not granting a mulligan for it, but those are the facts
I have also said many times this season that, while I'm critical of the FO and Fizz, i can appreciate Fizz's logic of starting the game with no pg at all. So i don't know where you get Frank starting stuff, but not from me. Frank should have a role because he can contribute on defense and, for example, any dumb dumb would know he plays Kemba particularly well
"fanboy". Is that something grown-ups really say?
Fanboy is an accurate representation of someone who claims that I clearly hate Phil. "Grown-ups" certainly dont do that. You will have a hard time finding me calling other posters "hater" as in "Frank haters" "Phil haters".
This convo started because another poster couldnt acknowledge that their theory about Fizdale planning to keep Frank on the bench was false. DSJr is seen wearing a back brace on the bench, and posters are worried Frank wont get PT?
Perry and the illuminati will call Fizdale and send Frank to G league? They think so little of Frank, yet he didnt spend one second in G-league. They think so little of Frank, yet they pick up his option. No one on the Knicks ia trying to end Frank's career. Some of you couldnt even give Fizdale a week to find PT for Frank. Trier sat, and has played well. No conspiracy there, coaches decision. If you want to know why the minutes havent been there for Frank beyond that of a reserve, you just had to watch him play. Not about who drafted him.
The whole "send Frank to the G-League" meme has always been lame. He is an integral component to a championship team. And he's an unintuitive asset. Yes, defense... blah, blah, blah. But more than anything else, unique and rare talent. This is not the same as recognizing "a stud". Its about recognizing a work-in-progress on the youngest of valuable gems.
I do fear that corporate politics will lead to his being traded. NY has one of the most consistently frustrating FO histories in all of sports.
OTOH, NY has one of the strongest fan bases in sport and they love Frankie. That's a good thing, a team salvation thing.
The problem with your thesis is that we never "just had to watch him play". He should have been playing in those first three games for three reasons.
First, DSJ was not right regardless of reason.
Two, Frankie's preseason play earned him at least that much consideration.
Three, given the schedule, winning winnable games HAS TO take priority over experimenting with off guards as PGs. Do that when you're playing the Clippers, and so on. Nothing wrong with dicking around with house money but the fans have suffered enough. Win winnable games. IFF the FO is interfering they need to STFU and let this team find its winning ways.