yellowboy90 wrote:nixluva wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:I just saw the news. Are people really defending this trade? Are people really defending Phil? Phil just continue to make dumb mistake after dumb mistake. This is the same old knick, no culture change at all. Phil gave up Lopez for a player who has a name and no game. They traded for a bum. This is said day yo.
This is actually good news! It shows that Phil is actually working with his Head Coach in trying to put a team together that he can EXCEL with. You have to understand the signals this is sending about how Phil is approaching this team for the present and future. He sold RoLo HIGH, and got a PG for his coach with no long term detriment to the team. If Rose doesn't work out the team has MASSIVE cap space next summer. For now this might help to attract FA's and we still have our cap space to sign top FA's. It at least shows that the Knicks are going to be aggressive in trying to improve the team.
This made me laugh out loud. You are not serious? I think you are smarter than this. This is a bad move. He sold Lopez low when he had vlue. He brought back the worst starting PG in the NBA. Maybe the worst PG in the nba. The knicks could have gotten way more for Lopez and Grant if all they wanted was cap space.
I am not a man who uses cuss words but this had me thinking of some and then asking for forgiveness. I don't take sports too serious but this has really gotten to me. This is worse than the Bargnani trade!
simple question. If Rose plays like he did once the mask came off this is a decent trade, at worst a lateral move. The downside is obvious... physically history tells us he's a ticking time bomb. He's also young, and coming off a strong finish. The downside is the Knicks wasted a good rotation player and prospect many of us (myself included)liked on a one year bust that could even hurt chemistry. If that is the case can they recover? Yes. Do they lose a pick? No, so this is NOTHING like the Bargs trade.
So at worst is a minor setback. No franchise players or all stars were lost. No future payments pending. No picks lost to hurt us later.
At glance it looks lateral. Rose plays 68 games, puts up 18ppg, 5assist and shoots 48% playing well under Jeff. His scoring wins us some games, his presence frees things up late for Melo and KP, he makes the Knicks better as guard was so bad last year. Remember Jeff has roster input. Rose isnt a Knick if Jeff doesnt want him here.
Then there is this. God forbid at 27 years old he's physically ok. He is a very very hard working player. There is a chance the Knicks get an all star guard for spare parts. What is that chance? I dont know... 1-5? 1-10? If your an angry Knick fan its 1-100000. If you are a bull fan is even money. Let me just say Bull fans are not happy. At a rate of about 80% hating it and 20% acccepting it. The think the Knicks got Derrick Rose for trash. Just a little perspective. Dont believe me? Go read the thread on the Bull's forum on realgm that had 25 pages 20 minutes after the trade was announced
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