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Should Andrew/Martin ban Splat?
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3/12/2015  12:04 PM
EnySpree wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea this goes back to how some of us were not happy about the flaws of the 54 win team as the season progressed. Unfortunately Indiana proved that the reservations were on the money. It also doesn't help that Carmelo is still on this team and to make matters worse he is injured after we just gave him $124mil. But he is not going to be here forever. The atmosphere here will improve if we ever start to win or Carmelo is gone. Take that to the bank

If we win a championship next year guys like Splat and Hector will be here saying the Knicks only won for whatever ridiculous reason you can think of. Take a pic of that check with your smartphone so you don't have to go to the bank. It's 2015

the knicks are not winning a championship next year so what's your point? in fact, the knicks have very little chance of winning a championship with melo. it was a huge mistaker and waste of time and money for the knicks to sign him. they have gone into full rebuild instead of trying to build a contender with a 31 year old. there's a clear, "logical disconnect" about these knicks, the natural result of which is polarization.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/12/2015  12:12 PM
I can't even leave the house with this thread running. God damn you bastards!

Go to work! Please! ( But just for a little while, brb!)

[quote="jrodmc"] Melo is stupid. [/quote]
dk7th
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3/12/2015  12:13 PM
fishmike wrote:eny, amigo you have been baited. Every single post from splat falls under a simple line item:
1) Phil sucks
2) Melo sucks
3) Look at how smart I am
4) Look at how funny I am
5) Your an idiot

Why fight it? Just put him on ignore and play splat picker. Guess which category his next post will fall under. Its fun over coffee and a poop.

You just need to see it for what it is. This is a time of misery in Knick land, and when there are times of misery its easy for the bottom dwellers to rise up and gain support. We the little people are hungry and thirsty and while splat offers nothing of substance there, he does offer blame so there will always be an audience. When the Knicks won 54 the conversations were different yea? Its like the cycle of life

This is a guy who attacked a poster named nixluva on a site dedicated to "pure Knicks love."
How does he? The easiest way to get under someone's skin?
1) trash something they care about
2) trash them for caring in the first place.

Context.

Tell splat he's won and move along. His trolling speaks for itself. Guys like this eventually just fizzle.. how many years have we seen them come and go? This was a guy who said he had better things to do than fight with people over the internet. That break lasted like 3 weeks. Context

Dont worry and be happy. Right now splat is revisiting his sweaty balls search. Your not. That should be solace enough

that is patently and blatantly incorrect. the conversations were often about piercing the veil and trying to see the knicks as legitimate playoff team let alone title contender. some "a win is a win" posters could not project the knicks as failing in the playoffs, and when they eventually did-- miserably-- none of those "a win is a win" posters sacked up and admitted they were mistaken. that's being a bad poster, being stingy and clinging to fragile ego. it creates a toxic environment when posters behave that way.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/12/2015  12:14 PM
EnySpree wrote:
Splat wrote:
EnySpree wrote:There's nothing wrong with hating melo or Dolan. I hated amare, shump, Felton, tyson and jr smith... thank god they are gone.

The difference is someone could start a thread about oatmeal and somehow melo would be blamed for the reason stove top oats cook slower than instant

When are you going to take an inventory of your behavior and wise up? Seriously. Numerous times early in this thread I suggested you just stop and take stock of yourself. I could have gotten extremely vicious with you. Have you even stopped to wonder why I have not launched a counter-attack and tried to get a vote against you? You're not learning anything thus far. You keep embarrassing yourself. You're giving us comedy and we'll take it. But I'm suggesting you give yourself an exit strategy here and think things through.

Your responses are really poor and you obviously resent intelligence when confronted by people who can articulate themselves better than you. I could make a sport of this for days and continue to embarrass you, but I'm pretty much deciding not to pursue it any longer. So if you keep going with this and keeping making a fool of yourself, then I will let you hang yourself without any further assistance. Get a grip of yourself and stop being such a tool. Seriously, do you respect yourself right now? If you do, you must be incapable of self-awareness. Wake up.

More nonsense. I'm going to go with what blkexec and fishmike are saying.

You are obviously crazy. Crazy wins every time

when it concerns the dolan/melo knicks it sure as hell does!

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/12/2015  12:17 PM
Hector wrote:I can't even leave the house with this thread running. God damn you bastards!

Go to work! Please! ( But just for a little while, brb!)

In my administration, I will put you to work as the stables manager. Your primary duty will be to wrangle delusional fans and herd them into a manger with Jesus.

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3/12/2015  12:19 PM
Splat wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Splat wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I want to know the 9 people who voted Yes. Stand up and be counted!
Shows some true gritty cojones to stand against such overwhelming popularity!

[Splat, please don't resurrect the Shveddy balls pic, okay?]

OK, I promise

The "New Favorite Poster Thread of All Time" is on the way.

Will you be running for President of the UK based on this thread alone?

Kevin Spacey has agreed to be my running mate. We're going to take all of you sad bastards off the dole and put you to work. I've already reserved a job for you as the pork rind fry cook for the drunk snacks concession stand at MSG.

They Really Cook Pork Rinds?

I am a teetotalling Irishman, so eff you and your drunk snacks stand, you capitalist 1-percenter corporate binge whoremaster! I just knew all this popularity and power woould change you!

I want the job wiping up the sweat off the floor. And not just because I look so hot bending over with a mop in my hands [That's a pic cue, Splat]
What did they ever do with Danny Whelan's cool warmup outfit?

this thread is going to blow the board up, and then we'll all be banned!

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3/12/2015  12:19 PM
dk7th wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
Splat wrote:
EnySpree wrote:There's nothing wrong with hating melo or Dolan. I hated amare, shump, Felton, tyson and jr smith... thank god they are gone.

The difference is someone could start a thread about oatmeal and somehow melo would be blamed for the reason stove top oats cook slower than instant

When are you going to take an inventory of your behavior and wise up? Seriously. Numerous times early in this thread I suggested you just stop and take stock of yourself. I could have gotten extremely vicious with you. Have you even stopped to wonder why I have not launched a counter-attack and tried to get a vote against you? You're not learning anything thus far. You keep embarrassing yourself. You're giving us comedy and we'll take it. But I'm suggesting you give yourself an exit strategy here and think things through.

Your responses are really poor and you obviously resent intelligence when confronted by people who can articulate themselves better than you. I could make a sport of this for days and continue to embarrass you, but I'm pretty much deciding not to pursue it any longer. So if you keep going with this and keeping making a fool of yourself, then I will let you hang yourself without any further assistance. Get a grip of yourself and stop being such a tool. Seriously, do you respect yourself right now? If you do, you must be incapable of self-awareness. Wake up.

More nonsense. I'm going to go with what blkexec and fishmike are saying.

You are obviously crazy. Crazy wins every time

when it concerns the dolan/melo knicks it sure as hell does!

In my administration, I will put you to work as the Executioner On The White House Lawn (yes, that will be your actual title). You will be outfitted with an orange and blue hood and be empowered to behead anyone who disagrees with our policies.

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3/12/2015  12:20 PM
I like talking basketball. Most of the members of this forum have a ton of knowledge and valid points of view even if they differ. When this forum is at it's best there's very little nonsense posted. I'm not talking about genuine funny posts. I'm talking about interjecting obsessive posts about Melo into threads that have nothing to do with Melo. Posting simply to attack another poster with nothing else in the post. Then followed by the usual piling on from other sycophants who enjoy attacking others like a schoolyard gang.

I think if you have a high percentage of posts that are personal attacks and one liner jokes at the expense of other posters and a very low percentage of actual discussion of basketball that is not what this forum is about.

It's easy to attack posters who put their neck on the line regularly. For those who just sit back and wait to pounce on others who actually put forth fully fleshed out points of view I don't have any respect for that. The easiest thing to do is just sit back and attack others. Especially when it comes to the Knicks over the last 15 years. You're going to look like a genius if you simply default to being negative. There's been more bad with the Knicks than good, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to stake out a position on the negative and just default to that. Only 1 team wins the title and very few franchises have been winning titles historically.

IMO a Fan forum is the most likely place to find people who want to try and find ways that their favorite team can be successful. If you stick your neck out to try and come up with ways the team could be successful that is a very risky move. You leave yourself open to attack from those who enjoy taking shots at others tho they never stick their neck out on anything.

Yes this season has been awful, however, for the 1st time in a long time there's the chance for something truly positive to happen for this franchise with the coming draft. The team also has cap space to use in Free Agency, which is not always the case. So you would think there is a lot of positive things to discuss even in a lost season. Some of us choose to expend energy trying to come up with ways this team can improve this summer. It takes a lot of work to put together reasonable scenarios for what Phil could do. You know what is frustrating and makes someone angry after doing that, is to have someone come along and post a one line joke about how Melo is the reason nothing will work or that Phil couldn't possibly put a good team together this summer because of how this season went and just stick a Zen joke in there for good measure.

Yes I voted for banning. I think too often threads devolve into a mess of insults when they started out with good discussions. It isn't hard to see how and why that seems to be happening more and more on this forum. Perhaps it would dissuade the followers who come out of the woodworks and pile on as well. I don't expect everyone to agree with my take but there it is.

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3/12/2015  12:22 PM
jrodmc wrote:
Splat wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
Splat wrote:
jrodmc wrote:I want to know the 9 people who voted Yes. Stand up and be counted!
Shows some true gritty cojones to stand against such overwhelming popularity!

[Splat, please don't resurrect the Shveddy balls pic, okay?]

OK, I promise

The "New Favorite Poster Thread of All Time" is on the way.

Will you be running for President of the UK based on this thread alone?

Kevin Spacey has agreed to be my running mate. We're going to take all of you sad bastards off the dole and put you to work. I've already reserved a job for you as the pork rind fry cook for the drunk snacks concession stand at MSG.

They Really Cook Pork Rinds?

I am a teetotalling Irishman, so eff you and your drunk snacks stand, you capitalist 1-percenter corporate binge whoremaster! I just knew all this popularity and power woould change you!

I want the job wiping up the sweat off the floor. And not just because I look so hot bending over with a mop in my hands [That's a pic cue, Splat]
What did they ever do with Danny Whelan's cool warmup outfit?

this thread is going to blow the board up, and then we'll all be banned!

I have consulted with my veep and Kevin and I agreed you will be reassigned to mop duty. Your official title will be Hairy Azzhole Pointing Towards The Rafters. You will receive no vacation time.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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3/12/2015  12:24 PM
fishmike wrote:eny, amigo you have been baited. Every single post from splat falls under a simple line item:
1) Phil sucks
2) Melo sucks
3) Look at how smart I am
4) Look at how funny I am
5) Your an idiot

Why fight it? Just put him on ignore and play splat picker. Guess which category his next post will fall under. Its fun over coffee and a poop.

You just need to see it for what it is. This is a time of misery in Knick land, and when there are times of misery its easy for the bottom dwellers to rise up and gain support. We the little people are hungry and thirsty and while splat offers nothing of substance there, he does offer blame so there will always be an audience. When the Knicks won 54 the conversations were different yea? Its like the cycle of life

This is a guy who attacked a poster named nixluva on a site dedicated to "pure Knicks love."
How does he? The easiest way to get under someone's skin?
1) trash something they care about
2) trash them for caring in the first place.

Context.

Tell splat he's won and move along. His trolling speaks for itself. Guys like this eventually just fizzle.. how many years have we seen them come and go? This was a guy who said he had better things to do than fight with people over the internet. That break lasted like 3 weeks. Context

Dont worry and be happy. Right now splat is revisiting his sweaty balls search. Your not. That should be solace enough

3) Wait for the rest of the Somber Melohating Police to rush in and fill any gaps. [Yet another pic cue, Splat]

fish, Splat's promised not to do the sweaty pig balls thing again. We have it in writing.

Eny, just for the record, I would never vote you off the island. I see you getting overly tense at my lame humor.

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3/12/2015  12:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2015  12:27 PM
This is shaping up to be a huge Hollywood blockbuster. All the lead roles have now chimed in. Let's make it happen
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3/12/2015  12:31 PM
nixluva wrote:I like talking basketball. Most of the members of this forum have a ton of knowledge and valid points of view even if they differ. When this forum is at it's best there's very little nonsense posted. I'm not talking about genuine funny posts. I'm talking about interjecting obsessive posts about Melo into threads that have nothing to do with Melo. Posting simply to attack another poster with nothing else in the post. Then followed by the usual piling on from other sycophants who enjoy attacking others like a schoolyard gang.

I think if you have a high percentage of posts that are personal attacks and one liner jokes at the expense of other posters and a very low percentage of actual discussion of basketball that is not what this forum is about.

It's easy to attack posters who put their neck on the line regularly. For those who just sit back and wait to pounce on others who actually put forth fully fleshed out points of view I don't have any respect for that. The easiest thing to do is just sit back and attack others. Especially when it comes to the Knicks over the last 15 years. You're going to look like a genius if you simply default to being negative. There's been more bad with the Knicks than good, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to stake out a position on the negative and just default to that. Only 1 team wins the title and very few franchises have been winning titles historically.

IMO a Fan forum is the most likely place to find people who want to try and find ways that their favorite team can be successful. If you stick your neck out to try and come up with ways the team could be successful that is a very risky move. You leave yourself open to attack from those who enjoy taking shots at others tho they never stick their neck out on anything.

Yes this season has been awful, however, for the 1st time in a long time there's the chance for something truly positive to happen for this franchise with the coming draft. The team also has cap space to use in Free Agency, which is not always the case. So you would think there is a lot of positive things to discuss even in a lost season. Some of us choose to expend energy trying to come up with ways this team can improve this summer. It takes a lot of work to put together reasonable scenarios for what Phil could do. You know what is frustrating and makes someone angry after doing that, is to have someone come along and post a one line joke about how Melo is the reason nothing will work or that Phil couldn't possibly put a good team together this summer because of how this season went and just stick a Zen joke in there for good measure.

Yes I voted for banning. I think too often threads devolve into a mess of insults when they started out with good discussions. It isn't hard to see how and why that seems to be happening more and more on this forum. Perhaps it would dissuade the followers who come out of the woodworks and pile on as well. I don't expect everyone to agree with my take but there it is.

This is the thing Nix. You are a single-minded person. You only post one way and that's it. And that's fine.

What is not fine is telling others that their way of thinking and posting that is different from yours is less valid.

You don't like to joke around. You're not a humorist. I won't hold it against you. But if you are not into having a good time and only want hoops talk 100% of the time then you need to go somewhere where there is a consensus that your way is the only way to be.

I'm being completely tolerant of you now. I think you oscillate between real debate over hoops ideas (yes, I do think you legitimately converse) and outright disrespecting other opinions that differ from your own. You can be super rude and you've never figured this out about yourself. You can be really smug about your opinions and you can exhibit a real my way or the highway attitude. You're certainly not touchy feely and can be quite intolerant of other opinions.

But I don't really care enough any longer to push you over this. If you really want to continue to shouting down people with exclamation points and repeatedly saying GTFOH! and kid yourself that makes an exemplar of decorum, then believe what you want. You is what you is.

I'm glad you admitted to voting for a ban. That means you have more guts than some. But I'm disappointed that you lack the principles to support various modes of expression. Your idea that jokes are against the purpose of the forum is truly bizarre. I don't expect you to understand, so carry on. Do your thing.

I've got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!
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3/12/2015  12:37 PM
dk7th wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea this goes back to how some of us were not happy about the flaws of the 54 win team as the season progressed. Unfortunately Indiana proved that the reservations were on the money. It also doesn't help that Carmelo is still on this team and to make matters worse he is injured after we just gave him $124mil. But he is not going to be here forever. The atmosphere here will improve if we ever start to win or Carmelo is gone. Take that to the bank

If we win a championship next year guys like Splat and Hector will be here saying the Knicks only won for whatever ridiculous reason you can think of. Take a pic of that check with your smartphone so you don't have to go to the bank. It's 2015

the knicks are not winning a championship next year so what's your point? in fact, the knicks have very little chance of winning a championship with melo. it was a huge mistaker and waste of time and money for the knicks to sign him. they have gone into full rebuild instead of trying to build a contender with a 31 year old. there's a clear, "logical disconnect" about these knicks, the natural result of which is polarization.

The point is in talking about Splat and Hector....how the **** did melo get involved?

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3/12/2015  12:40 PM
EnySpree wrote:
dk7th wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea this goes back to how some of us were not happy about the flaws of the 54 win team as the season progressed. Unfortunately Indiana proved that the reservations were on the money. It also doesn't help that Carmelo is still on this team and to make matters worse he is injured after we just gave him $124mil. But he is not going to be here forever. The atmosphere here will improve if we ever start to win or Carmelo is gone. Take that to the bank

If we win a championship next year guys like Splat and Hector will be here saying the Knicks only won for whatever ridiculous reason you can think of. Take a pic of that check with your smartphone so you don't have to go to the bank. It's 2015

the knicks are not winning a championship next year so what's your point? in fact, the knicks have very little chance of winning a championship with melo. it was a huge mistaker and waste of time and money for the knicks to sign him. they have gone into full rebuild instead of trying to build a contender with a 31 year old. there's a clear, "logical disconnect" about these knicks, the natural result of which is polarization.

The point is in talking about Splat and Hector....how the **** did melo get involved?

Eny, you are seriously asking dk7th what anything has to do with Melo? Really? How long have you been posting here?

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3/12/2015  12:47 PM
I'm just read this garbage and I can't understand how guys can come up with full lengthy replies and misquote people and make up things that they clearly did not say. Also the sense of humor of you want to call it that is psychotic in nature.
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3/12/2015  12:47 PM
Splat wrote:
nixluva wrote:I like talking basketball. Most of the members of this forum have a ton of knowledge and valid points of view even if they differ. When this forum is at it's best there's very little nonsense posted. I'm not talking about genuine funny posts. I'm talking about interjecting obsessive posts about Melo into threads that have nothing to do with Melo. Posting simply to attack another poster with nothing else in the post. Then followed by the usual piling on from other sycophants who enjoy attacking others like a schoolyard gang.

I think if you have a high percentage of posts that are personal attacks and one liner jokes at the expense of other posters and a very low percentage of actual discussion of basketball that is not what this forum is about.

It's easy to attack posters who put their neck on the line regularly. For those who just sit back and wait to pounce on others who actually put forth fully fleshed out points of view I don't have any respect for that. The easiest thing to do is just sit back and attack others. Especially when it comes to the Knicks over the last 15 years. You're going to look like a genius if you simply default to being negative. There's been more bad with the Knicks than good, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to stake out a position on the negative and just default to that. Only 1 team wins the title and very few franchises have been winning titles historically.

IMO a Fan forum is the most likely place to find people who want to try and find ways that their favorite team can be successful. If you stick your neck out to try and come up with ways the team could be successful that is a very risky move. You leave yourself open to attack from those who enjoy taking shots at others tho they never stick their neck out on anything.

Yes this season has been awful, however, for the 1st time in a long time there's the chance for something truly positive to happen for this franchise with the coming draft. The team also has cap space to use in Free Agency, which is not always the case. So you would think there is a lot of positive things to discuss even in a lost season. Some of us choose to expend energy trying to come up with ways this team can improve this summer. It takes a lot of work to put together reasonable scenarios for what Phil could do. You know what is frustrating and makes someone angry after doing that, is to have someone come along and post a one line joke about how Melo is the reason nothing will work or that Phil couldn't possibly put a good team together this summer because of how this season went and just stick a Zen joke in there for good measure.

Yes I voted for banning. I think too often threads devolve into a mess of insults when they started out with good discussions. It isn't hard to see how and why that seems to be happening more and more on this forum. Perhaps it would dissuade the followers who come out of the woodworks and pile on as well. I don't expect everyone to agree with my take but there it is.

This is the thing Nix. You are a single-minded person. You only post one way and that's it. And that's fine.

What is not fine is telling others that their way of thinking and posting that is different from yours is less valid.

You don't like to joke around. You're not a humorist. I won't hold it against you. But if you are not into having a good time and only want hoops talk 100% of the time then you need to go somewhere where there is a consensus that your way is the only way to be.

I'm being completely tolerant of you now. I think you oscillate between real debate over hoops ideas (yes, I do think you legitimately converse) and outright disrespecting other opinions that differ from your own. You can be super rude and you've never figured this out about yourself. You can be really smug about your opinions and you can exhibit a real my way or the highway attitude. You're certainly not touchy feely and can be quite intolerant of other opinions.

But I don't really care enough any longer to push you over this. If you really want to continue to shouting down people with exclamation points and repeatedly saying GTFOH! and kid yourself that makes an exemplar of decorum, then believe what you want. You is what you is.

I'm glad you admitted to voting for a ban. That means you have more guts than some. But I'm disappointed that you lack the principles to support various modes of expression. Your idea that jokes are against the purpose of the forum is truly bizarre. I don't expect you to understand, so carry on. Do your thing.


I'm not a comedian but I love a good joke. I stated this in my 1st paragraph above. No one has anything against humor. I don't consider posts that have no other content except personal attacks to be a proper "mode of expression". If you're actually making points and have strongly worded responses that is going to happen from time to time.

It seems to me that there has been an increase on this forum of posts that have no real depth and are simply personal attacks or some constantly interjecting unrelated points that derail good threads. As i've said it's easy to just sit back and take pot shots at others who stick their necks out and create meaningful threads or points of view. It's doesn't raise the level of conversation, is very annoying and contributes to the arguments and nastiness on this forum.

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3/12/2015  12:51 PM
EnySpree wrote:
dk7th wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Yea this goes back to how some of us were not happy about the flaws of the 54 win team as the season progressed. Unfortunately Indiana proved that the reservations were on the money. It also doesn't help that Carmelo is still on this team and to make matters worse he is injured after we just gave him $124mil. But he is not going to be here forever. The atmosphere here will improve if we ever start to win or Carmelo is gone. Take that to the bank

If we win a championship next year guys like Splat and Hector will be here saying the Knicks only won for whatever ridiculous reason you can think of. Take a pic of that check with your smartphone so you don't have to go to the bank. It's 2015

the knicks are not winning a championship next year so what's your point? in fact, the knicks have very little chance of winning a championship with melo. it was a huge mistaker and waste of time and money for the knicks to sign him. they have gone into full rebuild instead of trying to build a contender with a 31 year old. there's a clear, "logical disconnect" about these knicks, the natural result of which is polarization.

The point is in talking about Splat and Hector....how the **** did melo get involved?

i am saying that the source of polarization among the knicks fanbase is mostly about carmelo anthony. splat has voiced his dislike for dolan and melo, i assume hector feels similarly.

if you feel that the knicks have a legitimate shot at winning a title while carmelo anthony is here, playing 32-38 minutes a game, why then that is your prerogative.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/12/2015  12:52 PM
Examples Nix and those who started posting last week don't count. I'm of the opinion that most of the vitriol and hit and run posts are coming from the people who have an axe to grind with splat and other like minded posters
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3/12/2015  12:53 PM
nixluva wrote:
Splat wrote:
nixluva wrote:I like talking basketball. Most of the members of this forum have a ton of knowledge and valid points of view even if they differ. When this forum is at it's best there's very little nonsense posted. I'm not talking about genuine funny posts. I'm talking about interjecting obsessive posts about Melo into threads that have nothing to do with Melo. Posting simply to attack another poster with nothing else in the post. Then followed by the usual piling on from other sycophants who enjoy attacking others like a schoolyard gang.

I think if you have a high percentage of posts that are personal attacks and one liner jokes at the expense of other posters and a very low percentage of actual discussion of basketball that is not what this forum is about.

It's easy to attack posters who put their neck on the line regularly. For those who just sit back and wait to pounce on others who actually put forth fully fleshed out points of view I don't have any respect for that. The easiest thing to do is just sit back and attack others. Especially when it comes to the Knicks over the last 15 years. You're going to look like a genius if you simply default to being negative. There's been more bad with the Knicks than good, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to stake out a position on the negative and just default to that. Only 1 team wins the title and very few franchises have been winning titles historically.

IMO a Fan forum is the most likely place to find people who want to try and find ways that their favorite team can be successful. If you stick your neck out to try and come up with ways the team could be successful that is a very risky move. You leave yourself open to attack from those who enjoy taking shots at others tho they never stick their neck out on anything.

Yes this season has been awful, however, for the 1st time in a long time there's the chance for something truly positive to happen for this franchise with the coming draft. The team also has cap space to use in Free Agency, which is not always the case. So you would think there is a lot of positive things to discuss even in a lost season. Some of us choose to expend energy trying to come up with ways this team can improve this summer. It takes a lot of work to put together reasonable scenarios for what Phil could do. You know what is frustrating and makes someone angry after doing that, is to have someone come along and post a one line joke about how Melo is the reason nothing will work or that Phil couldn't possibly put a good team together this summer because of how this season went and just stick a Zen joke in there for good measure.

Yes I voted for banning. I think too often threads devolve into a mess of insults when they started out with good discussions. It isn't hard to see how and why that seems to be happening more and more on this forum. Perhaps it would dissuade the followers who come out of the woodworks and pile on as well. I don't expect everyone to agree with my take but there it is.

This is the thing Nix. You are a single-minded person. You only post one way and that's it. And that's fine.

What is not fine is telling others that their way of thinking and posting that is different from yours is less valid.

You don't like to joke around. You're not a humorist. I won't hold it against you. But if you are not into having a good time and only want hoops talk 100% of the time then you need to go somewhere where there is a consensus that your way is the only way to be.

I'm being completely tolerant of you now. I think you oscillate between real debate over hoops ideas (yes, I do think you legitimately converse) and outright disrespecting other opinions that differ from your own. You can be super rude and you've never figured this out about yourself. You can be really smug about your opinions and you can exhibit a real my way or the highway attitude. You're certainly not touchy feely and can be quite intolerant of other opinions.

But I don't really care enough any longer to push you over this. If you really want to continue to shouting down people with exclamation points and repeatedly saying GTFOH! and kid yourself that makes an exemplar of decorum, then believe what you want. You is what you is.

I'm glad you admitted to voting for a ban. That means you have more guts than some. But I'm disappointed that you lack the principles to support various modes of expression. Your idea that jokes are against the purpose of the forum is truly bizarre. I don't expect you to understand, so carry on. Do your thing.


I'm not a comedian but I love a good joke. I stated this in my 1st paragraph above. No one has anything against humor. I don't consider posts that have no other content except personal attacks to be a proper "mode of expression". If you're actually making points and have strongly worded responses that is going to happen from time to time.

It seems to me that there has been an increase on this forum of posts that have no real depth and are simply personal attacks or some constantly interjecting unrelated points that derail good threads. As i've said it's easy to just sit back and take pot shots at others who stick their necks out and create meaningful threads or points of view. It's doesn't raise the level of conversation, is very annoying and contributes to the arguments and nastiness on this forum.

Look man, I agree with you, but I've extended more than an olive branch. While others are busy trying to ban me and make outlandish attacks I've gone even further and eaten crow without anyone prompting me to. The least you can do is show your own self-awareness and acknowledge you've been a dick too, because you have. You've dumped your attitude on people. But I understand why you're defensive after being attacked yourself. I did attack you. But if you're really going to be completely realistic you'll acknowledge you can be intolerant and condescending too. You don't have to make a confession or anything. Just think about it.

I've said I would leave you alone and even though you tried to provoke me the other day I didn't take the bait. What you fail to take into account in that instance was my joke about circle jerks came after being attacked by others. So we've all been attacked, you, me and pretty much everyone else here. So if you want to walk the talk, then do your part too and don't pretend you haven't told people to GTFOH! a hundred times. That's pretty hostile behavior too. OK? I don't actually dislike you even if you dislike me. I'm fine with saying that. It's no big deal.

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3/12/2015  12:57 PM
nixluva wrote:
Splat wrote:
nixluva wrote:I like talking basketball. Most of the members of this forum have a ton of knowledge and valid points of view even if they differ. When this forum is at it's best there's very little nonsense posted. I'm not talking about genuine funny posts. I'm talking about interjecting obsessive posts about Melo into threads that have nothing to do with Melo. Posting simply to attack another poster with nothing else in the post. Then followed by the usual piling on from other sycophants who enjoy attacking others like a schoolyard gang.

I think if you have a high percentage of posts that are personal attacks and one liner jokes at the expense of other posters and a very low percentage of actual discussion of basketball that is not what this forum is about.

It's easy to attack posters who put their neck on the line regularly. For those who just sit back and wait to pounce on others who actually put forth fully fleshed out points of view I don't have any respect for that. The easiest thing to do is just sit back and attack others. Especially when it comes to the Knicks over the last 15 years. You're going to look like a genius if you simply default to being negative. There's been more bad with the Knicks than good, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to stake out a position on the negative and just default to that. Only 1 team wins the title and very few franchises have been winning titles historically.

IMO a Fan forum is the most likely place to find people who want to try and find ways that their favorite team can be successful. If you stick your neck out to try and come up with ways the team could be successful that is a very risky move. You leave yourself open to attack from those who enjoy taking shots at others tho they never stick their neck out on anything.

Yes this season has been awful, however, for the 1st time in a long time there's the chance for something truly positive to happen for this franchise with the coming draft. The team also has cap space to use in Free Agency, which is not always the case. So you would think there is a lot of positive things to discuss even in a lost season. Some of us choose to expend energy trying to come up with ways this team can improve this summer. It takes a lot of work to put together reasonable scenarios for what Phil could do. You know what is frustrating and makes someone angry after doing that, is to have someone come along and post a one line joke about how Melo is the reason nothing will work or that Phil couldn't possibly put a good team together this summer because of how this season went and just stick a Zen joke in there for good measure.

Yes I voted for banning. I think too often threads devolve into a mess of insults when they started out with good discussions. It isn't hard to see how and why that seems to be happening more and more on this forum. Perhaps it would dissuade the followers who come out of the woodworks and pile on as well. I don't expect everyone to agree with my take but there it is.

This is the thing Nix. You are a single-minded person. You only post one way and that's it. And that's fine.

What is not fine is telling others that their way of thinking and posting that is different from yours is less valid.

You don't like to joke around. You're not a humorist. I won't hold it against you. But if you are not into having a good time and only want hoops talk 100% of the time then you need to go somewhere where there is a consensus that your way is the only way to be.

I'm being completely tolerant of you now. I think you oscillate between real debate over hoops ideas (yes, I do think you legitimately converse) and outright disrespecting other opinions that differ from your own. You can be super rude and you've never figured this out about yourself. You can be really smug about your opinions and you can exhibit a real my way or the highway attitude. You're certainly not touchy feely and can be quite intolerant of other opinions.

But I don't really care enough any longer to push you over this. If you really want to continue to shouting down people with exclamation points and repeatedly saying GTFOH! and kid yourself that makes an exemplar of decorum, then believe what you want. You is what you is.

I'm glad you admitted to voting for a ban. That means you have more guts than some. But I'm disappointed that you lack the principles to support various modes of expression. Your idea that jokes are against the purpose of the forum is truly bizarre. I don't expect you to understand, so carry on. Do your thing.


I'm not a comedian but I love a good joke. I stated this in my 1st paragraph above. No one has anything against humor. I don't consider posts that have no other content except personal attacks to be a proper "mode of expression". If you're actually making points and have strongly worded responses that is going to happen from time to time.

It seems to me that there has been an increase on this forum of posts that have no real depth and are simply personal attacks or some constantly interjecting unrelated points that derail good threads. As i've said it's easy to just sit back and take pot shots at others who stick their necks out and create meaningful threads or points of view. It's doesn't raise the level of conversation, is very annoying and contributes to the arguments and nastiness on this forum.

if you didnt show such faulty logic and post such stupid comments I suspect none of what you stated about would be an issue. See how that works?

Just move on... 3/12/2015 is officially Splat's day in the sun. Let him bathe in his flawless victory and just move on. Right now this thread has me foaming at the mouth dying to spill my usual venom...just walk away.

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