StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

mreinman wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:DK... now your just being a *****. You puff out your chest, you condescend, you remind us of our little IQs, you tout your great BB IQ over all and your ability to see truth in #s other cant, and you are so certain in your convictions that Melo isnt even close to a max player that no team will offer him max money.

But now we see... your just guessing all along. Your just guessing Melo isnt max player. Your just guessing about everything it seems, because in the end you know your wrong and your little game is running out of gas.

Personally I dont care if we keep Melo or if Phil sends him to another team in a S&T. We have a new GM and like Walsh I am 100% prepared to sit back and look at every move as part of a bigger plan and lets see where we go. That being said I know Melo will certainly be offered the max. Why? (brace yourself for logic). Because he's a max player.

I see after 1000s of posts on your personal anti-Melo crusade lacks a spine.

Ill give you 2-1. My $200 to your $100.

Im open.

you are on tilt. let me know when you are no longer on tilt.

He's been that way for a couple months now. It's a whole new level of "snitty robot" behavior!
You said that was your *guess* in your actual statement for crying out loud

Papabear Says

Bonn a couple of weeks ago I made a promise after an apology to back off what he said. I thought that he would be more committed to an honest debate but his hate seem to have gotten worse. This seem to make me think that the apology was a fake. His hate for Melo goes far beyond sports. And sooner or later this must be addressed.

Well Papa, it seems that you've succumbed to the very things that you were bemoaning at the beginning of this post.

As long as the SomberHaterz don't drive him out, Sangfroid, it's a moral victory. Posting the right way.

You will notice the hate will increase in direct relation to the length of this winning streak.

God help us all if we actually make the playoffs, and then get out of the second round.
Indy, beware; we have scary, rejuvenated old guys and freaks wearing masks!

Somewhere, you can hear the sound of Kmart sharpening his elbows...

I smell 1999.

god is not helping us here.

He is making atlanta play really well because he despises our evildoin ways.

God is helping already. Dolan signing a mega-egomaniac like PJax?!? For 60 million (yeah, I know, chump change)?!?! All but admitting to the world that he don't know what he's doing, again?!?! Without even commissioner interference?!??!

We are possibly watching a slow miracle unfold.

Wednesday night! Indy in the house. Trot out Willis and Bradley and Clyde and Pearl and BK! Find John Gianelli!

Someone called in to WFAN this morning and said if this team wins it all (just dreaming take it easy, easy fellas) they would negate the Pjax signing! It's an omen! Or a sign from God! Or really really really good stuff in the coffee!

Silverfuel wrote:I don't know why some of you guys bother with these losers. They don't watch games and think nitpicking stats makes them Nate Silver. Put them on the ignore list and move on.

Oh, so that's who Nate Silver is. And someone would want to be him because...?

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

But you recognize why Melo finished 3rd in MVP voting last year. You recognize why he won player of the week. You recognize the very good things he brings to the table, so I for one enjoy hearing your thoughts on what you think is the best way to build this thing.

As opposed to loser/cancer, everyone from the GMs, sportswriters, fans and other NBA players are wrong and Melo is really a terrible person bla bla bla you have heard it. DK actually got pissy because someone posted how generous Melo is and how is charity is one of the best run.

I am 100% with you Guns... I want to see the Knicks fighting for a title year after year for another decade. With or without Melo.

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

And people here are willing to talk about that. I mean thats really the big thing on the table right?

But you recognize why Melo finished 3rd in MVP voting last year. You recognize why he won player of the week. You recognize the very good things he brings to the table, so I for one enjoy hearing your thoughts on what you think is the best way to build this thing.

As opposed to loser/cancer, everyone from the GMs, sportswriters, fans and other NBA players are wrong and Melo is really a terrible person bla bla bla you have heard it. DK actually got pissy because someone posted how generous Melo is and how is charity is one of the best run.

I am 100% with you Guns... I want to see the Knicks fighting for a title year after year for another decade. With or without Melo.

"Forbes fashioned a short catalog of charitable celebrities in an article entitled The 30 Most Generous Celebrities at the head of 2012. Authors, actors, artists, comedians, models and athletes were applauded for the selfless acts, including NBA superstar Carmelo Anthony, whose generosity included providing a total sum of $837,200 ($500,000 to Syracuse University and $302,000 to The Living Classroom Foundation)"

anthony's salary: $18,518,574

302,000 divided by 18,500,000 equals 1.3%

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

And people here are willing to talk about that. I mean thats really the big thing on the table right?

But you recognize why Melo finished 3rd in MVP voting last year. You recognize why he won player of the week. You recognize the very good things he brings to the table, so I for one enjoy hearing your thoughts on what you think is the best way to build this thing.

As opposed to loser/cancer, everyone from the GMs, sportswriters, fans and other NBA players are wrong and Melo is really a terrible person bla bla bla you have heard it. DK actually got pissy because someone posted how generous Melo is and how is charity is one of the best run.

I am 100% with you Guns... I want to see the Knicks fighting for a title year after year for another decade. With or without Melo.

"Forbes fashioned a short catalog of charitable celebrities in an article entitled The 30 Most Generous Celebrities at the head of 2012. Authors, actors, artists, comedians, models and athletes were applauded for the selfless acts, including NBA superstar Carmelo Anthony, whose generosity included providing a total sum of $837,200 ($500,000 to Syracuse University and $302,000 to The Living Classroom Foundation)"

anthony's salary: $18,518,574

302,000 divided by 18,500,000 equals 1.3%

Is $18mm Melo's take home? After taxes? Agent fees? Union fees? Is that ALL the money he donated?

Even the stats you pull out of your ass are wrong lol. Classic. Hee-haw fella. heeeeee-haw

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

And people here are willing to talk about that. I mean thats really the big thing on the table right?

But you recognize why Melo finished 3rd in MVP voting last year. You recognize why he won player of the week. You recognize the very good things he brings to the table, so I for one enjoy hearing your thoughts on what you think is the best way to build this thing.

As opposed to loser/cancer, everyone from the GMs, sportswriters, fans and other NBA players are wrong and Melo is really a terrible person bla bla bla you have heard it. DK actually got pissy because someone posted how generous Melo is and how is charity is one of the best run.

I am 100% with you Guns... I want to see the Knicks fighting for a title year after year for another decade. With or without Melo.

"Forbes fashioned a short catalog of charitable celebrities in an article entitled The 30 Most Generous Celebrities at the head of 2012. Authors, actors, artists, comedians, models and athletes were applauded for the selfless acts, including NBA superstar Carmelo Anthony, whose generosity included providing a total sum of $837,200 ($500,000 to Syracuse University and $302,000 to The Living Classroom Foundation)"

anthony's salary: $18,518,574

302,000 divided by 18,500,000 equals 1.3%

again.. total disregard for reality in your anti-Melo jihad.

Is $18mm Melo's take home? After taxes? Agent fees? Union fees? Is that ALL the money he donated?

Even the stats you pull out of your ass are wrong lol. Classic. Hee-haw fella. heeeeee-haw

You are both insane!

Who gives a flying phuck about how much charity he gives (or doesn't give)?

Who cares what he says to the media?

Who cares about LALA?

Just move the damn rock a bit more, cut down on some of the bad shots, and we will all happy. Right?

Well ... for the next 5 years we will probably be arguing about the amount we paid him to stay.

My GM hat on and I say 15-18 per.

Should be fun!

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

And people here are willing to talk about that. I mean thats really the big thing on the table right?

But you recognize why Melo finished 3rd in MVP voting last year. You recognize why he won player of the week. You recognize the very good things he brings to the table, so I for one enjoy hearing your thoughts on what you think is the best way to build this thing.

As opposed to loser/cancer, everyone from the GMs, sportswriters, fans and other NBA players are wrong and Melo is really a terrible person bla bla bla you have heard it. DK actually got pissy because someone posted how generous Melo is and how is charity is one of the best run.

I am 100% with you Guns... I want to see the Knicks fighting for a title year after year for another decade. With or without Melo.

"Forbes fashioned a short catalog of charitable celebrities in an article entitled The 30 Most Generous Celebrities at the head of 2012. Authors, actors, artists, comedians, models and athletes were applauded for the selfless acts, including NBA superstar Carmelo Anthony, whose generosity included providing a total sum of $837,200 ($500,000 to Syracuse University and $302,000 to The Living Classroom Foundation)"

anthony's salary: $18,518,574

302,000 divided by 18,500,000 equals 1.3%

again.. total disregard for reality in your anti-Melo jihad.

Is $18mm Melo's take home? After taxes? Agent fees? Union fees? Is that ALL the money he donated?

Even the stats you pull out of your ass are wrong lol. Classic. Hee-haw fella. heeeeee-haw

You are both insane!

Who gives a flying phuck about how much charity he gives (or doesn't give)?

Who cares what he says to the media?

Who cares about LALA?

Just move the damn rock a bit more, cut down on some of the bad shots, and we will all happy. Right?

Well ... for the next 5 years we will probably be arguing about the amount we paid him to stay.

My GM hat on and I say 15-18 per.

Should be fun!

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

And people here are willing to talk about that. I mean thats really the big thing on the table right?

But you recognize why Melo finished 3rd in MVP voting last year. You recognize why he won player of the week. You recognize the very good things he brings to the table, so I for one enjoy hearing your thoughts on what you think is the best way to build this thing.

As opposed to loser/cancer, everyone from the GMs, sportswriters, fans and other NBA players are wrong and Melo is really a terrible person bla bla bla you have heard it. DK actually got pissy because someone posted how generous Melo is and how is charity is one of the best run.

I am 100% with you Guns... I want to see the Knicks fighting for a title year after year for another decade. With or without Melo.

"Forbes fashioned a short catalog of charitable celebrities in an article entitled The 30 Most Generous Celebrities at the head of 2012. Authors, actors, artists, comedians, models and athletes were applauded for the selfless acts, including NBA superstar Carmelo Anthony, whose generosity included providing a total sum of $837,200 ($500,000 to Syracuse University and $302,000 to The Living Classroom Foundation)"

anthony's salary: $18,518,574

302,000 divided by 18,500,000 equals 1.3%

again.. total disregard for reality in your anti-Melo jihad.

Is $18mm Melo's take home? After taxes? Agent fees? Union fees? Is that ALL the money he donated?

Even the stats you pull out of your ass are wrong lol. Classic. Hee-haw fella. heeeeee-haw

You are both insane!

Who gives a flying phuck about how much charity he gives (or doesn't give)?

Who cares what he says to the media?

Who cares about LALA?

Just move the damn rock a bit more, cut down on some of the bad shots, and we will all happy. Right?

Well ... for the next 5 years we will probably be arguing about the amount we paid him to stay.

My GM hat on and I say 15-18 per.

Should be fun!

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So if we start banning these guys you think the content of the site will improve? I think it would be extremely boring

I tend to agree with you, but I'd be willing to try it for a few weeks and see how it feels.

And maybe a break would give them the opportunity to come up with fresh, new reasons for Melohate/KnickSomerism.

To be fair I think people should be more neutral in regards to melo. Yes there are some who hate on melo BUT there are some who also are never critical of him.

Wanting what's best for the organization is not being critical of Melo

It's a fact that he is older and it would be wise not to max him out

Yeah, there aren't even some (plural) who hate him. I'm not sure about TKF but I know everyone else here wants him back at the right price.

yea your right... I wonder how TKF feels abou that

I thought he did give a figure around $12 mil per but I could be wrong.
Regardless, "some" typically implies plural

I believe that he said that he doesn't want him at any price.

Maybe he said that. I don't know why it bothers people to a point where they would start threads complaining about it.

I believe that people find him irrational/illogical and just filled with hate.

As opposed the DK who is less emotional/less hate and has far more substance to his arguments.

You are pretty consistent in your belief that too many inefficient players get overvalued. Do you really need to come the defense of others so often? Its like treating them like little kids who can't battle alone.

Melo is having a more efficient year this year but thats not because he changed his style, he is just hitting more shots, especially from 3. I hope that Pjax will make him more of a team player.