Red1976 wrote:JamesKPolk wrote:holfresh wrote:JamesKPolk wrote:Then you have no idea how to run a team.
True that, I'm not qualified to be a GM, but we all get to play one on this board..But ask yourself this..Does Vogel lose his job if Indy gets bumped in the first round and doesn't make the ECF?? Does Thibs lose his job for the same??...George Karl??...Woody has his team performing as good if not better than those highly regarded coaches despite the injuries...So why is Woody held to a different standard??
Of course you're not qualified to speak on anything really. You still apologize for Stephon Marbury and Isiah Thomas.
Vogel isn't getting eliminated in the first round. Besides, his team is missing arguably its best player and only scorer. He has a built-in excuse. But even without the excuse he guided his team to the 2nd round last year and gave the Heat a run for their money with an inferior team. His team plays some of the best defense in the entire league. He's proven himself. Woodson hasn't.
Thibodeau has proven himself as a coach. He's also missing his franchise player but still has his team in the playoffs. Let's not forget the elite defense his team plays consistently. Woodson doesn't have that cache...yet.
George Karl has won everywhere he has been. He is one of the all-time coaching legends. He has proven himself. Woodson hasn't.
Mike Woodson has won in the REGULAR SEASON before and been owned in the playoffs. By owned I mean completely embarrassed. It's worth nothing that he was fired because his team got swept out of the playoffs 2 years in a row and his players began his resent hid favoritism of certain players. We'll see if he learned from his mistakes. But until then, yes, of course he'll be held to a different standard. He hasn't done anything in comparison to any of those coaches. Why do you think there are rumors of Vinny Del Negro being fired after guiding the Clippers to their first ever division title and 50+ wins? He has sucked in the playoffs his whole career. If he doesn't perform up to par this year he'll likely get the boot. And he has a great winning percentage there. But guess what? Regular season wins mean jack squat. I don't do cartwheels for winning 50 games. The Spurs have been doing that for a decade. No Spurs fan even cares about that anymore. It's all about winning the big one. And until Woodson can prove he can guide his team to at least an Eastern Conference Finals appearance then he is nowhere near any of those coaches.
misterearl, who has been wrong more than Kim Kardashian has had sex partners, continues to bump this thread to show people that for once in his life he wasn't completely wrong on the Knicks. That for once he didn't make a playoff prediction during a 23-win Isiah season. That for once he can celebrate himself being right by trying to poke other fellow fans into an argument. Except I never bumped all his awful threads where he was wrong on everything. I never taunted him. Perhaps I am more forgiving than others. Perhaps I just don't care. Or perhaps I just consider everyone here and everywhere a diehard Knicks fan and don't separate people into groups. That's something people like misterearl, with his poor attempt at riddles that Clyde would frown upon, fails to understand.
On to the playoffs. I hope to see the best from this team and a championship in 2013.
You have your opinion and this is perfectly fine ... what I don't understand is your insistence to repeat it over and over again in this thread when Woodson has the Knicks playing their best season in more than 10 years. Maybe a wait and see approach could be an interesting alternative ?
And let's be fair, the Knicks haven't been healthy all year, so the injuries excuses for the above mentioned coaches seem to me like you are grasping for some (invalid in my eyes, so let's agree to disagree) arguments to prove your point about Mike Woodson.
It's funny that you mention Vogel because apart going to the 2nd round (something Mike Woodson has also done), I'm not sure what is the different standard for him except for your strongly negative opinion on Mike Woodson (and why the standard should be different for Vogel and Woodson is still quite mysterious for me despite your above explanation).
Once again, you can have your opinion and I respect it (and I think that everyone knows it by now), but for my part I will see what will happen in the playoffs and enjoy for now the first division title and #2 seed for the Knicks in 19 years. Go orange and blue !
because saying it louder and more often makes it, uh, righter?
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Also, when this thread was launched the Knicks were, what, third and dealing with an onset of injuries? Yeah, the month ago thin is a legit excuse
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I don't know what his score is on the little factual details, but I can tell you no one has been more right on the Knicks than misterearl this season when it comes to philosophical disposition. I have enjoyed celebrating this glorious year of New York Knicks basketball with The Answer Man
