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Jeremy Lin is a true PG and a free agent (Knicks get him!)
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CashMoney
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12/28/2011  11:22 AM
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CashMoney wrote:Facts and facts and the fact is that TD is not a PG. However, I will say the I see him being a big part of this team. He can man the ship until Baron & Shump are back in the mix. I love TD coming off the bench as our 6th.

how many years did Billups hear that?

Good point, didn't even think of the comparison. I guess time will tell. I really like TD for this team.

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12/28/2011  11:36 AM
martin wrote:
CashMoney wrote:Facts and facts and the fact is that TD is not a PG. However, I will say the I see him being a big part of this team. He can man the ship until Baron & Shump are back in the mix. I love TD coming off the bench as our 6th.

how many years did Billups hear that?

And he's still hearing it...But Billups is an example that you can still build a championship with the right combo guard. Billups vs TD in their prime is also no comparison, but I see your point.

I hope TD excels, and proves all the doubters wrong. It will only help the team in many ways!

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12/28/2011  12:00 PM
Why would we trade anyone and change over the roster all over again
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12/28/2011  12:22 PM
I really liked Lin in college. I saw the same game against Uconn that Briggs watched and he was awesome against us. So far it hasnt' translated at the NBa level, but he's young and has not gotten an opportunity. I'm glad that we are giving him a shot but lets see how he does before we start talking about trading guys and waiving guys that are doing a solid job for us.

As for TD. TD is simply not a PG. But I love him as that 3rd guard hybrid scoreer/PG. He's perfect for that role and has done a very solid job for us. As a starter, not so much. But judging by our signing of Baron Davis, this is a mystery to no one and eventually he will be replaced and put into a role that is more fitting for him. I think at that point we can mask some of his flaws and he will be valuable for us. Of course if Bibby and Lin perform then you can consider using him in a trade and then use Shumpert in the role that Douglas is ideally suited for. But then you lose defense.......

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12/28/2011  4:58 PM
It's time to jump on the Lin savior bandwagon! TD has been solid for us and as others have said looks more like avoid 6th man defense and scoring punch.(the role Nate wash posed to fill). But at least TD has shown he belongs as a 6th man at the very least. Lin can't even stay at the end of a 15 man roster. If he's such a good PG why is that? I love the signing but Mostly because it's a low risk move that probably ends up with Lin back on waivers but may yield something more.
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12/28/2011  5:50 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Hope he is given a llong term look. Just don't expect him to be a savior over the next few weeks. I think his best case scenario is to take over Bibbys minutes when Baron is healthy. But unless we are blowing someone out, or being blown out, don't expect to see him get minutes until next week.

Gotta give Grunwald credit. He's doing an excellent job.

Think of what Lin will learn, sitting next to his California homeboy, Baron Davis.

+1000 Earl.


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12/28/2011  6:37 PM
NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
D'Antoni on whether Jeremy Lin can learn playbook in 1 day to play tonight. "He's from Harvard. He can pick it up in an hour-and-a-half.''
2 hours ago

Jeremy Lin will wear uniform #17.

"Talent wins games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships." -Michael Jordan
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12/28/2011  7:04 PM
C'mon, everyone one knows Krispy Kreams has the best donuts man
Bonn1997 wrote:
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:
misterearl wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Hope he is given a llong term look. Just don't expect him to be a savior over the next few weeks. I think his best case scenario is to take over Bibbys minutes when Baron is healthy. But unless we are blowing someone out, or being blown out, don't expect to see him get minutes until next week.

Gotta give Grunwald credit. He's doing an excellent job.

Think of what Lin will learn, sitting next to his California homeboy, Baron Davis.

+1000 Earl.


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12/28/2011  7:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2011  7:09 PM
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
D'Antoni on whether Jeremy Lin can learn playbook in 1 day to play tonight. "He's from Harvard. He can pick it up in an hour-and-a-half.''
2 hours ago

Jeremy Lin will wear uniform #17.

Good Karma.

Henry Bibby wore number 17 for the Knicks for three years.

Son Mike now plays for the orange and blue.

If Jeremy is three-quarters the lead guard Daddy was, we are straight.

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12/29/2011  8:04 AM
No Savior, But Toney Doulgas Is Extremely Allergic To The Paint

The Knicks are much too selfish. Outside of making rudimentary passes, Douglas has absolutely no feel for his team mates, te rhythm of the game or proper shot selection when a three is out of the question.

Play Lin, Please.

“We’ll try to get to know him and his game and we’ll see what that means," D’Antoni said. “It looked like his outside shot was a little iffy but we liked his speed, liked his aggressiveness. We liked his size and ability to penetrate.We’ll get to know him better as we go forward."

On his second possession, Lin dribbled to the left side of the key and made a nice interior pass.

Do it again.

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12/29/2011  8:55 AM
If Lin can learn the playbook in an hour and a half, can he start for this team in a day? I think it was clear yesterday that PG is the key to our kingdom and rightnow Lin may be the best we have...
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12/29/2011  10:58 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2011  11:05 AM
Compounding all of this is that our superstars see that TD can't create
for them so they decide to attempt to "take our the game" by themselves.
I heard Amare yell, "It's all you" to Melo during the game and I think the
play resulted in an air ball. No doubt, sometimes Amare is clueless.
Smart teams realize that, so they collapse their defense and double team
and our stars continue to play into that regardless.
What develops is an offensive rhythm totally out of synch.
We need a point guard who can penetrate, make the defense collapse on him,
and then distribute to our guys in the paint.
In other words, we need to play to our strength.
Until we start doing that, we're gonna look foolish (like last night) on offense.
BDiddy can't come back soon enough.

Until then, give Lin more minutes please.

I'm putting all this in perspective and forgetting about last night.
As painful as last night was to watch, if we have a good game tonight,
I'll see last night as an aberration and a product of "growing pains."
If we stink again tonight, I'll promptly join the bench TD crusade.

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12/29/2011  11:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2011  11:09 AM
The three point shot is the result of a lazy offense. We were 4-22 from three las night and kept hoisting as if World B Free was the head coach. Stop it.

Douglas should NEVER attempt a three unless the shot clock is running out. D'Antoni needs to ban the three and bench anyone who forces a shot over two defenders

Play Landry and Lin together. Two unselfish men who understand the game and can get the ball moving

Take it to the rack.

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12/29/2011  11:15 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2011  4:33 PM
misterearl wrote:The three point shot is the result of a lazy offense. We were 4-22 from three las night and kept hoisting as if World B Free was the head coach. Stop it.

Douglas should NEVER attempt a three unless the shot clock is running out. D'Antoni souls ban the three and bench anyone who forces a shot over two defenders

Take it to the rack.

You and I think alike, Earl, and I appreciate your presence on the forum.

's offense is predicated on shooting the three 30% of the time.
WHO shoots those shots is what matters. That's a MAJOR shortcoming of this offense.
If your name is Steve Novak or Billy Walker, you've got the green light (40% career shooters).
The thinking of making Amare a three point shooter is utterly ridiculous.
Pass the rock, be more deliberate on offense, hit the open man, and yes,
play to our strength (which we all know is inside).

BTW, totally agree to put Landry and Lin together.

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12/29/2011  11:28 AM
misterearl wrote:The three point shot is the result of a lazy offense. We were 4-22 from three las night and kept hoisting as if World B Free was the head coach. Stop it.

Douglas should NEVER attempt a three unless the shot clock is running out. D'Antoni needs to ban the three and bench anyone who forces a shot over two defenders

Play Landry and Lin together. Two unselfish men who understand the game and can get the ball moving

Take it to the rack.

The three pointer can be the result of great ball movement. Last night, it wasn't - because we have no one on this team that can get to the paint from the perimeter. If the Knicks aren't creating penetration, they need better ball movement.

Asking Toney to penetrate isn't his game. Melo can do it sometimes, but not always.

One thing they can change without a point guard is better, crisper ball movement. If Toney can't get to the lane, he needs to be able to at least create movement and find the open man. Sadly, I don't even have faith in him to do that.

Time for a Jeremy Lin audition.

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12/29/2011  11:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2011  11:32 AM
KBC - anyone who is as passionate as you - and who can prescribe an intelligent transaction BEFORE it happens is a friend of mine.

To your point about Novak- he was acquired primarily as a shooter. Righ? What happens? He gets one freakin shot. One, a three, which he drains. He is never sought out after that. That is the respnsibility of the lead guard. Not only hit the open man but recognize who just hit the shot. Feed him again. Sheesh.

This squad of strangers needs to get over their egos, start getting acquainted and share the ball. The goal is layups - not three pointers.

It ain't that deep.

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12/29/2011  11:35 AM
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:The three point shot is the result of a lazy offense. We were 4-22 from three las night and kept hoisting as if World B Free was the head coach. Stop it.

Douglas should NEVER attempt a three unless the shot clock is running out. D'Antoni needs to ban the three and bench anyone who forces a shot over two defenders

Play Landry and Lin together. Two unselfish men who understand the game and can get the ball moving

Take it to the rack.

The three pointer can be the result of great ball movement. Last night, it wasn't - because we have no one on this team that can get to the paint from the perimeter. If the Knicks aren't creating penetration, they need better ball movement.

Asking Toney to penetrate isn't his game. Melo can do it sometimes, but not always.

One thing they can change without a point guard is better, crisper ball movement. If Toney can't get to the lane, he needs to be able to at least create movement and find the open man. Sadly, I don't even have faith in him to do that.

Time for a Jeremy Lin audition.

What he said x 75. Great post.

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12/29/2011  11:51 AM
Melo is not a pt guard, amari is not a three pt specialist. We need guard penetration, and start playing to our strength. I blame the lack of pg play and coaching. Both areas must be fixed.
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12/29/2011  3:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/29/2011  3:09 PM

JLin saw a 7 footer through traffic.

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12/29/2011  3:34 PM
crzymdups wrote:
misterearl wrote:The three point shot is the result of a lazy offense. We were 4-22 from three las night and kept hoisting as if World B Free was the head coach. Stop it.

Douglas should NEVER attempt a three unless the shot clock is running out. D'Antoni needs to ban the three and bench anyone who forces a shot over two defenders

Play Landry and Lin together. Two unselfish men who understand the game and can get the ball moving

Take it to the rack.

The three pointer can be the result of great ball movement. Last night, it wasn't - because we have no one on this team that can get to the paint from the perimeter. If the Knicks aren't creating penetration, they need better ball movement.

Asking Toney to penetrate isn't his game. Melo can do it sometimes, but not always.

One thing they can change without a point guard is better, crisper ball movement. If Toney can't get to the lane, he needs to be able to at least create movement and find the open man. Sadly, I don't even have faith in him to do that.

Time for a Jeremy Lin audition.


The first thing Lin did last night when he got the ball was put his head down, a few dribbles and went one on one for his...

Jeremy Lin is a true PG and a free agent (Knicks get him!)

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