AnubisADL wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo can be traded at any point. The Nets arent likely setting any hard deadlines either. Denver traded Iverson within the first 2 months of the season.

Denver trading Melo means they get a 1 way ticket to lottery land. I assume they are in no rush unless a deal is a knockout deal.

I actually see Carmelo's value going up at the trade deadline. Once reality starts setting in for some teams they will be desperate to get him.

Doesn't his trade value almost entirely hinge upon whether he'll extend with said desperate teams???

I was referring to the Knick's really.

Walsh tries to play this too cool for school thing. The Jordan Hill trade to Houston rumors started in December. He just tried to wait around to the last minute until he had no choice but to make the deal.

Why would his value go up at the trade deadline? You mean if there's a rumour he's willing to extend with another team then we'd have to raise our offer? I could see that..

But if Melo doesn't show signs about seriously considering extending with anyone other than the Knicks doesn't that mean we have Denver by the balls?

You either lose him for nothing in a few months..or you settle for whatever we offer you.

What if DW is really too cool for school?

The way I see it Denver is going to get picks even if they wait until summer because they still own his bird rights. Any deal that is centered around Wilson Chandler is pointless for Denver. The picks are more valuable than Wilson. So really Denver doesn't have to settle for our offer because we will send them picks this summer anyway.

what picks did PHO get for Amare? Or Utah for Booz?

eViL wrote:http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69307/20100927/melo_leaving_options_open_until_end_of_season/

Carmelo Anthony denied that he has requested a trade and said he plans to keep his options open until the end of the season.

"I'm leaving my options open. At the end of the season, I'll sit down with my team, I'll sit down with the Nuggets," Anthony said.

"I've never said i wanted to be traded," he said. "I never once said anything about trade talk."

"I never once said anything about trade talk," Anthony said. "There's been a lot of speculation going on."

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69307/20100927/melo_leaving_options_open_until_end_of_season/#ixzz10kufPedz

just what i wanted to hear.

If true, this changes everything.

I guess the madness stops at some point today.

Melo find his stones?

If he comes to the knicks at seasons end or Denver accepts Somthing far less, then it could be special in MSG.

The yoots are assets even if traded. You could get a third piece this way. Not saying we do, but we COULD>

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo can be traded at any point. The Nets arent likely setting any hard deadlines either. Denver traded Iverson within the first 2 months of the season.

Denver trading Melo means they get a 1 way ticket to lottery land. I assume they are in no rush unless a deal is a knockout deal.

I actually see Carmelo's value going up at the trade deadline. Once reality starts setting in for some teams they will be desperate to get him.

Doesn't his trade value almost entirely hinge upon whether he'll extend with said desperate teams???

I was referring to the Knick's really.

Walsh tries to play this too cool for school thing. The Jordan Hill trade to Houston rumors started in December. He just tried to wait around to the last minute until he had no choice but to make the deal.

Why would his value go up at the trade deadline? You mean if there's a rumour he's willing to extend with another team then we'd have to raise our offer? I could see that..

But if Melo doesn't show signs about seriously considering extending with anyone other than the Knicks doesn't that mean we have Denver by the balls?

You either lose him for nothing in a few months..or you settle for whatever we offer you.

What if DW is really too cool for school?

The way I see it Denver is going to get picks even if they wait until summer because they still own his bird rights. Any deal that is centered around Wilson Chandler is pointless for Denver. The picks are more valuable than Wilson. So really Denver doesn't have to settle for our offer because we will send them picks this summer anyway.

what picks did PHO get for Amare? Or Utah for Booz?

Phoenix didnt want to pay Amare.

Utah didnt want to pay Boozer.

Cleveland wanted to pay Lebron.

Toronto wanted to pay Bosh.

Denver wants to pay Carmelo.

Amare got a 5 yr deal.

Boozer got a 5 yr deal.

Lebron got a 6 yr deal.

Bosh got a 6 yr deal.

If Carmelo opts out he will get Max years because he cares about his money.

at the idea of Boozer or Amare getting 6 yr deals.

Nalod wrote:I think the press conferance they had in Denver is legit. Went on a Denver site and someone said Melo was in Uniform and said he is a Nugg and never said he wanted a trade.

I suppose the mainstream media will pick it up if legit.

If true, this kind of puts pause on everything.

Only thing I can see if Melo said no to the Russian. Hope he said thank you at least, maybe send him a gift for his mini Giraffe.

Melo tried his hand and didn't quite work out. IM sure its all been thougth thru and this was part of the plan.

As we said a few weeks ago, Denver has little leverage if Melo is willing to see it thru the season. He can walk.

If Donnie wants Melo, he'll make it happen on good terms.

I ask what did you expect him to do/say? You expected him to say he wants to be traded then get a nice fine from David Stern on media day?

The Nuggets didnt setup a 4 team trade for fun. Melo's "team" likely relayed the fact he wants to be traded. A player never needs to make trade demands because that is what he is paying his agent(s) to do.

An alternate scenario is the Nuggets could have simply said we cant get the deal hammered out before media day but we are still trying to trade you.

The season doesnt start for another 4 weeks guys.

Nalod wrote:
PUts Nuggs on notice. Melo said he would not sign off on a Nyet deal.

As I said how do you come to that conclusion as the definitive answer. He could have said yes for all we know. At the end of the day Denver has to agree to the trade.

Remember it was reported that Denver was getting cold feet about trading Carmelo over the weekend.

I doubt Denver is setting up a 4 team trade for fun. You seriously believe Melo's team didn't give Denver's front office a list suitable teams all summer?

AnubisADL wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Carmelo can be traded at any point. The Nets arent likely setting any hard deadlines either. Denver traded Iverson within the first 2 months of the season.

Denver trading Melo means they get a 1 way ticket to lottery land. I assume they are in no rush unless a deal is a knockout deal.

I actually see Carmelo's value going up at the trade deadline. Once reality starts setting in for some teams they will be desperate to get him.

Doesn't his trade value almost entirely hinge upon whether he'll extend with said desperate teams???

I was referring to the Knick's really.

Walsh tries to play this too cool for school thing. The Jordan Hill trade to Houston rumors started in December. He just tried to wait around to the last minute until he had no choice but to make the deal.

Why would his value go up at the trade deadline? You mean if there's a rumour he's willing to extend with another team then we'd have to raise our offer? I could see that..

But if Melo doesn't show signs about seriously considering extending with anyone other than the Knicks doesn't that mean we have Denver by the balls?

You either lose him for nothing in a few months..or you settle for whatever we offer you.

What if DW is really too cool for school?

The way I see it Denver is going to get picks even if they wait until summer because they still own his bird rights. Any deal that is centered around Wilson Chandler is pointless for Denver. The picks are more valuable than Wilson. So really Denver doesn't have to settle for our offer because we will send them picks this summer anyway.

If we sign Melo as a FA, we'll have to send picks their way?

we don't actually know what the new CBA will look like.

iSergio wrote:Well, I can breath easily for now. It would have been awesome to have Carmelo Anthony run the pick-and-roll with Amar'e Stoudemire and drop 40 on LeCon at the Garden but I guess I'll have to survive this season watching a 40 win team. : /

low expectations = you either get to be right or pleasantly surprised.

there's still a chance we sign him as a FA or get him at the deadline.

Anubis actually made a good point...if we sign him as a FA Melo's camp may demand a sign and trade so we can give him more years. If Melo really wants to be a Knick he might say screw a sign and trade let's make this squad as strong as possible. Also who knows how the new CBA will handle FA signings and sign and trades.

BRIGGS wrote:

iSergio wrote:Well, I can breath easily for now. It would have been awesome to have Carmelo Anthony run the pick-and-roll with Amar'e Stoudemire and drop 40 on LeCon at the Garden but I guess I'll have to survive this season watching a 40 win team. : /

Give me a break--you wanted to trade half the team for a guy who wants to come here for nothing--you get the I don't know sht award. I'd love to play cards with you

You think we're winning 53 games and I don't know sht? LOL