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The bigger they are, the harder they fall. The Knicks dump the Celts. Now you've seen it all.
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11/22/2009  4:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2009  4:09 PM
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

not to mention another DNP-CD for Hill... i tried to warn you!

LMAO at 46 minutes for Chris Duhon

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11/22/2009  4:08 PM
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

Don't forget Marcus Landry. I don't think he got a single minute of play.

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11/22/2009  4:09 PM
Lee was guarding Garnett. There was no reason for him to switch to Pierce.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/22/2009  4:10 PM
If I was on the court I would have started a fight with David Lee......that locker room would be crazy cuz nothing could stop me from fighting David Lee....

kelly tripuka is blaming Harrington....harrington actually ran out....on who's man??? David Lee's man....David Lee is so lucky I am not his teamate or his coach....I would have to get arrested.

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11/22/2009  4:10 PM
I find it hard to believe that the announcers clyde and breen or the refs didn't mention garnett with the offensive foul as he pushed chandler on the hip so he could recieve the pass from pierce
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11/22/2009  4:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2009  4:10 PM
I understand that Lee is partly at fault for that last play. But with 2 seconds left, I don't see how Harrington doesn't step up to cover...

Lee definitely overplayed to help out (and he shouldn't have done this), but I would have liked to see Al step up sooner than later.

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11/22/2009  4:11 PM
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

Cant really fault them with going with their vets today, this game was kinda important, dont worry by January both of those players will be starting and hill should/will be the first player off the bench.

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11/22/2009  4:12 PM
TMS wrote:
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

not to mention another DNP-CD for Hill... i tried to warn you!

LMAO at 46 minutes for Chris Duhon

It is freaking ridiculous. We all said the young guys wouldn't develop with or without Iverson and what we saw today is most likely what we will see for the rest of the season...good job Donnie

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11/22/2009  4:13 PM
thejerk wrote:
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

Cant really fault them with going with their vets today, this game was kinda important, dont worry by January both of those players will be starting and hill should/will be the first player off the bench.

It isn't just today though, Douglas didn't play much against the Nets either if I remember correctly.

I have no problem with trying to win games, which is exactly why I think we should have gotten Iverson. It just pisses me off that we don't play the young guys and try to win with inferior talent.

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11/22/2009  4:13 PM
playa2 wrote:I find it hard to believe that the announcers clyde and breen or the refs didn't mention garnett with the offensive foul as he pushed chandler on the hip so he could recieve the pass from pierce

I agree. I watched that foul 5 times and am was thinking the steal was clean but the puch to get the ball was the foul. I was wondering if Clyde and Breen were gonna get it right. I figure after they got it wrong 5 times they were just sticking to their story.

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11/22/2009  4:14 PM
EnySpree wrote:If I was on the court I would have started a fight with David Lee......that locker room would be crazy cuz nothing could stop me from fighting David Lee....

kelly tripuka is blaming Harrington....harrington actually ran out....on who's man??? David Lee's man....David Lee is so lucky I am not his teamate or his coach....I would have to get arrested.

Lee was one of the reasons why we were in a position to win though.

Yes, he screwed up on that last play, but he did it to help out one of his teammates. I don't think you can entirely fault him for that because Pierce killed us all game.

I really think Harrington should have stepped out sooner to cover. With 2 seconds left, you should not be down by the basket because Garnett didn't have time to pass it off again.

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11/22/2009  4:15 PM
s3231 wrote:I understand that Lee is partly at fault for that last play. But with 2 seconds left, I don't see how Harrington doesn't step up to cover...

Lee definitely overplayed to help out (and he shouldn't have done this), but I would have liked to see Al step up sooner than later.

No disrespect, but Garnett had the ball for a second and a half and Harrington was on the low block watching the corner 3. How fast was he supposed to get up on him?

IMO, he would have been faster to do that if he expected to do it. There is absolutely no reason for Lee to overplay to that extent. He looked like he was 15 feet from Garnett.

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11/22/2009  4:18 PM
s3231 wrote:
thejerk wrote:
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

Cant really fault them with going with their vets today, this game was kinda important, dont worry by January both of those players will be starting and hill should/will be the first player off the bench.

It isn't just today though, Douglas didn't play much against the Nets either if I remember correctly.

I have no problem with trying to win games, which is exactly why I think we should have gotten Iverson. It just pisses me off that we don't play the young guys and try to win with inferior talent.

if they passed on Iverson saying the reason was so they could develop the youth, then at least play the youth & be consistent with that... it wouldn't be so frustrating if they at least practiced what they preached.

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11/22/2009  4:18 PM
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s3231 wrote:I understand that Lee is partly at fault for that last play. But with 2 seconds left, I don't see how Harrington doesn't step up to cover...

Lee definitely overplayed to help out (and he shouldn't have done this), but I would have liked to see Al step up sooner than later.

No disrespect, but Garnett had the ball for a second and a half and Harrington was on the low block watching the corner 3. How fast was he supposed to get up on him?

IMO, he would have been faster to do that if he expected to do it. There is absolutely no reason for Lee to overplay to that extent. He looked like he was 15 feet from Garnett.

Lol, if I'm Harrington, I start running as soon as I see the ball being thrown to Garnett, that could just be me though.

I think you have to keep in mind how many seconds are on the clock at that point and once you see Pierce pass it off, you got to help out.

I'm not saying I blame Harrington entirely, but I definitely think he could have gotten out there sooner.

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11/22/2009  4:20 PM
TMS wrote:
s3231 wrote:
thejerk wrote:
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

Cant really fault them with going with their vets today, this game was kinda important, dont worry by January both of those players will be starting and hill should/will be the first player off the bench.

It isn't just today though, Douglas didn't play much against the Nets either if I remember correctly.

I have no problem with trying to win games, which is exactly why I think we should have gotten Iverson. It just pisses me off that we don't play the young guys and try to win with inferior talent.

if they passed on Iverson saying the reason was so they could develop the youth, then at least play the youth & be consistent with that... it wouldn't be so frustrating if they at least practiced what they preached.

Exactly.

Pick a direction and stick with it. If you want to develop your youth, then play the young guys, who are probably talented enough to win the same amount of games we are winning right now either way.

If you want to play vets, then it would have made a lot more sense to bring in Iverson and give ourselves a better shot at being competitive.

"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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11/22/2009  4:22 PM
D'antoni wanted them to Foul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was the problem!!!!!!!!! he just said it in the post game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless.....this is Lee's fault....I might kill a stray kitten today!!!!!!!!!!

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11/22/2009  4:23 PM
s3231 wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
s3231 wrote:I understand that Lee is partly at fault for that last play. But with 2 seconds left, I don't see how Harrington doesn't step up to cover...

Lee definitely overplayed to help out (and he shouldn't have done this), but I would have liked to see Al step up sooner than later.

No disrespect, but Garnett had the ball for a second and a half and Harrington was on the low block watching the corner 3. How fast was he supposed to get up on him?

IMO, he would have been faster to do that if he expected to do it. There is absolutely no reason for Lee to overplay to that extent. He looked like he was 15 feet from Garnett.

Lol, if I'm Harrington, I start running as soon as I see the ball being thrown to Garnett, that could just be me though.

I think you have to keep in mind how many seconds are on the clock at that point and once you see Pierce pass it off, you got to help out.

I'm not saying I blame Harrington entirely, but I definitely think he could have gotten out there sooner.

I can see your point but that is kinda like saying it's your fault I punched you in the face because you let me, isn't it? IMO, It was ultimately Lee's responsibility to stay on Garnett. Garnett has range out to the 3 line. No way do you leave Garnett wide open to double cover Pierce. And no way do I leave House in the corner open off a rotation.

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11/22/2009  4:23 PM
s3231 wrote:
TMS wrote:
s3231 wrote:
thejerk wrote:
s3231 wrote:Harrington should have stepped out on the last play. Why the hell are you staying down low when there isn't even time for a rebound?

By the way, we didn't sign Iverson because Walsh wants our young guys to develop....anyone want to check to see how many minutes Douglas and Gallo played?

Cant really fault them with going with their vets today, this game was kinda important, dont worry by January both of those players will be starting and hill should/will be the first player off the bench.

It isn't just today though, Douglas didn't play much against the Nets either if I remember correctly.

I have no problem with trying to win games, which is exactly why I think we should have gotten Iverson. It just pisses me off that we don't play the young guys and try to win with inferior talent.

if they passed on Iverson saying the reason was so they could develop the youth, then at least play the youth & be consistent with that... it wouldn't be so frustrating if they at least practiced what they preached.

Exactly.

Pick a direction and stick with it. If you want to develop your youth, then play the young guys, who are probably talented enough to win the same amount of games we are winning right now either way.

If you want to play vets, then it would have made a lot more sense to bring in Iverson and give ourselves a better shot at being competitive.

Don't fall for Donnnie's BS. Iverson has served his purpose: The threat of signing him has inspired the players to play closer to their potential. They won two games and were quite competitive, and almost stole this one from a better team.

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11/22/2009  4:24 PM
Wilson Chandler was 5 for 13 with 4 TOs. Gallo should have played more.

I would not care if we traded Chandler to move one of our toxic contracts.

Include Chandler with Curry and Mobley for TMAC.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/22/2009  4:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/22/2009  4:25 PM
Actually hold on, we are all blaming the wrong person here.

How about it was Eddy Curry's fault? The guy only drew a flagrant when we were up 3 and killed all our momentum....

Not to mention, Hughes was terrible today offensively. He took some really stupid shots per usual.

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