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OngBok
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6/22/2006  1:30 PM
SAS said that is exactly why LB will not get all his money.
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6/22/2006  1:31 PM
heres a link to Aldridge's article in the Akron Beakon


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What is going on in New York these days? Not only is Larry Brown changing lineups, it appears he's trying to change his job description.
Word is that Brown is calling many of his former charges around the league to see whether they'd like to do deals before the Feb. 23 trade deadline.

And he isn't wedded to keeping anyone on his roster.

Coaches calling around is not in and of itself unusual, but it doesn't sound as if Brown is clearing things with Isiah Thomas before he picks up the phone.

Which might explain why the Knicks seem to be in every trade scenario there is, including possible deals for Orlando's Steve Francis and Denver's Kenyon Martin. The Nuggets want to do something before the deadline, but the bigger question is how much owner Stan Kroenke will take on to make a move in the ...


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http://calbears.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_km4461/is_200602/ai_n16273332


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6/22/2006  1:32 PM
Hey andy, it ain't just me, I'm of the opinion that a bunch of people feel frye did not play consistent minutes, either from game to game or within a game...there were times when he was subbed out for not doing something specific and was never heard from again...to me that incosistent, Counting DNPs isn't proving he played consistently, watching the games it was more the substitution patterns than anything.

I feel he earned a starting spot on our roster.

That's just my opinion, not sure why your first post was rvhoss you are wrong, but hey, I'm the biggest fan at the moment, and nothing is bringing me down today...well, except a banning.
Posted by OngBok:

Andrew, do you feel Frye earned consistant minutes ?? If not, why ?? Chris Paul played consistant minutes as well as Andrew Bogut, but not Frye.

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6/22/2006  1:32 PM
SAS is saying the NBA is full of "clicks" and that everyone in the league does exactly what IT does but only IT gets called on it !!
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6/22/2006  1:32 PM
See my problem is this. Who cares that Larry went behind Isiah to make trades when Isiah has been fleeced on every trade he has made! Why are you guys backing Isiah when he hasn't made one good trade move since he's been here. Larry knew this and went behind to make better moves.
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6/22/2006  1:32 PM
Posted by OngBok:

Andrew, do you feel Frye earned consistant minutes ?? If not, why ?? Chris Paul played consistant minutes as well as Andrew Bogut, but not Frye.


As I stated earlier....Inconsistent defense and foul trouble.
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6/22/2006  1:33 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

me neither, and if you did know it mck1, how can you still support what he was doing, he wasn't coaching, he was auditioning to be GM
Posted by OngBok:

McK1 i didn't know that, back in dec ??

because Isiah is an idiot who I don't trust to tie his own shoelaces.

the Curry trade was the nail in the coffin as far as my confidences in him went.

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 1:33 PM]
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6/22/2006  1:33 PM
Posted by DarkKnicks:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Isiah first starting lineup
C Jerome James
F Mo Taylor
F Malik Rose
G Q Rich
G Marbury

These ARE YOUR NY Knicks!
Nah, BRIGGS, you know this was Larry's team.

Isiah team will be

Curry
Frye
Woods
¿¿??
Marbury

Curry
Frye
Woods
Crawford
Marbury
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6/22/2006  1:34 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

See my problem is this. Who cares that Larry went behind Isiah to make trades when Isiah has been fleeced on every trade he has made! Why are you guys backing Isiah when he hasn't made one good trade move since he's been here. Larry knew this and went behind to make better moves.

Because we can't get rid of Dolan, Mills, Isiah, and Brown, so perhaps starting with Brown will begin the process of cleaning out the franchise.
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6/22/2006  1:34 PM
Its is of your opinion that we got fleeced on every trade. I personally didn't any of his trades but i don't think we got fleeced on any of them as well.
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6/22/2006  1:34 PM
One of those moves was francis appearently and seems losing reezy may not have been the plan all along until it was suggested by a certain coach.

Larry's job was to coach, he coached a 33 win team to 23 wins.

He should be fired and he was.

Case closed.
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6/22/2006  1:35 PM
rvhoss...I disputed the validity of your facts about the DNPCDs. If I am wrong please correct me. I never said anything regarding consistency in minutes in my origional post.
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Posted by OngBok:

Its is of your opinion that we got fleeced on every trade. I personally didn't any of his trades but i don't think we got fleeced on any of them as well.

Thats becuase you RV and Ariza are delsusional
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6/22/2006  1:36 PM
Posted by OngBok:

SAS is saying the NBA is full of "clicks" and that everyone in the league does exactly what IT does but only IT gets called on it !!

The comments about Marbury were interesting. (A caller asked how will Crawford fair with Isiah's loyalty towards Steph)

SAS brought up Isiah's quote from a Quite Frankly episode: "I'm only loyal to winning"

hmmmmm

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6/22/2006  1:36 PM
Posted by OngBok:

SAS is saying the NBA is full of "clicks" and that everyone in the league does exactly what IT does but only IT gets called on it !!

could you explain this? Not sure I understand it.
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OngBok
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6/22/2006  1:36 PM
Andrew, to be a better player, you let him play thru it right ?? I mean we were not in a playoff race but yet he is not on the floor. That is no excuse in my mind. How do you get better if you don't play ??
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6/22/2006  1:40 PM
SAS is a whore
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6/22/2006  1:40 PM
if we had not won 23 games and won say, 35 games, chicago does not have a number 2 pick for curry, but just some pick in the draft.

So, coaching a 35 win team to 23 games makes the curry trade look like crap, however, I beg to differ and think we should have won a ton more games and they don't have the number 2 pick, and possibly don't even have a lottery pick and then the curry trade is AWESOME.

I mean, you're trying to get curry, they say we're not doing the trade unless it's an unprotected or give us David Lee.

I say David Lee is worth keeping and we weren't going to have the second worst record in the league.

That's all I'm saying.

We were not the league's laughing stock pre-LB and suddenly we are big time...the only thing that changed was LB coming to town and that's why suddenly everyone hates our players and our team.

These are the same players that Isiah got kudos for acquiring during last year's draft (we got 4 players that day and give up Kurt Thomas I think), we gave up tim thomas and sweetney for Eddy Curry and maybe tyrus thomas.

I just feel that this last year debacle wouldn't have been so bad if larry put on a happy face, instead he turned the entire world and half of UltimateKnicks against the knicks...

Francis and JRose were knee jerk reactions to placate the coach, but Jrose is expiring and came with a pick and francis will perform or turn into KMart or Al Harrington.

Still not seeing how we are laughing stocks unless you just don't believe in the team at all.

I believe...only because I'm a fan.
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6/22/2006  1:41 PM
I believe what SAS is talking about how everyone has a problem with IT and his relationship with his players and certain execs around the league. For example when IT was fired by Bird, Jermain O'neal didn't want to play for Indy anymore and wanted to play for IT. Riley had the same loyality with John Starks
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6/22/2006  1:42 PM
Posted by OngBok:

Andrew, to be a better player, you let him play thru it right ?? I mean we were not in a playoff race but yet he is not on the floor. That is no excuse in my mind. How do you get better if you don't play ??

most coaches think the opposite. You get better by not doing the things you are not supposed to. Shortening minutes is the leash.
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